Zinda mag does it again!!! No shame

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JohnSydney

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Tonight i received some documents from a friend, i was given information on an article David Chibo wrote in Zinda against a Sydney bishop. then i was shocked to hear that this article has actually been published! but there is no information on the actual author. David Chibo has been ordered by the courts to pay almost $200 000 in damages due to defamatory remarks etc. You would think Zinda had learnt their lesson right? wrong! u can read the article in the Lighthouse section of the current issue, but u will need around 3hours.

i will post more information in the coming days when i have soda.

please note i am nor for or against this magazine and its view. thanks
 
i duno aziza, Rima posted the lawlink report on the actual court case a couple of weeks ago i remember that. but this is the actual article as ive been told it has alot of information pointing the finger at the bishop.


if this is old news then ill delete it, but it was published today
 
u can read it online at zindas site zindamagazine.com

lol the papers i have kheena i duno if theyre legal or not eena have a look at the article online
 
I just read it. there is so much nonsense in it that it is hard to take the rest of it seriously. I can't believe that people can believe it.

Mar Meelis having a de facto relationship with Eva Robin George? I have heard it all now. By the way, she is getting married soon.
 
Zibla Magazine, in its usual cunning and self-serving way, totally ignored the content and substance of the court's judgement, nor did they post it so its readers could see the court's criticism of the blatant and malicious nature of Zibla's reporting.

I mean I have never come accross such disgraceful cowardly journalism in my life.

If Zibla magazine was interested in sincere, credible, and unbiased reporting, it would hold off its cowardly attack on the Bishop in respect of the current Supreme Court Decision and until such time that another court determined otherwise.

Unfortunaley, Zibla is unable to even adhere to such basic ethics of journalism and are more interested in pursuing their own destructive causes in attempting to bring down our religious and political organisations.
 
Assyrians have got to start boycotting that crap. For every hit that website receives, the more encouragement the administratprs receive. I only visited the website yesterday because of this post by JohnSydney but I had not visited it since 2000 when they wrote a story about me without my prior knowledge.
 
Rima said:
Zibla Magazine, in its usual cunning and self-serving way, totally ignored the content and substance of the court's judgement, nor did they post it so its readers could see the court's criticism of the blatant and malicious nature of Zibla's reporting.

I mean I have never come accross such disgraceful cowardly journalism in my life.

If Zibla magazine was interested in sincere, credible, and unbiased reporting, it would hold off its cowardly attack on the Bishop in respect of the current Supreme Court Decision and until such time that another court determined otherwise.

Unfortunaley, Zibla is unable to even adhere to such basic ethics of journalism and are more interested in pursuing their own destructive causes in attempting to bring down our religious and political organisations.
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You're still here!!! I thought your master would've sent you for a Jihad on the writers of the articles that hurt his sensitive feelings and "aggrivated" him.

Still waiting for your response in your thread, khazekh riqlakh!!!
 
I just read bits of the article, all I can say is "Khayya Ganyeheh", that was the best response to the dark forces trying to silence their critics.

Not only did they present again their facts & findings, but they've accompanied it with scanned copies of the contract used to purchase the house with Eva, which except the ones living in denial, everyone else knew about.

Good on them and may they continue to uncover the corruption in our community wherever it may be.
 
Can somebody explain that if it is true about Mar Meelis and Eva buying a house together, what this has to do with anything?
 
Moja,

You hit the nail on the head. Even if it is true that Mar Meelis bought a property in joint names with someone else many years ago, there is no evidence that at any stage he lived with her or had an affair with her.

However, Zibla magazine takes this limited information about the purchase of a property and somehow twists it into Mar Meelis having an affair and breaching his wow of Celibacy. All this without any proof of such an affair or any opportunity given for Mar Meelis to respond to the ridiculous allegations.

It is a sad state of affairs for Assyrians worldwide that Zibla Magazine is able to twist and print such blatant rubbish to defame our religious and political leaders, and present the information as though it is fact. This is exactly what they did the last time they published such a "special investigative report" and this ended up with the NSW Supreme Court finding that the article was unsubstantiated, lacking in good faith, and defamatory, and awarding damages in excess of $200,000.00 against the author.

The most recent published articile has the hallmarks of David Chibo written all over it, except this time the name of the author has not been disclosed. This is indicative of Zibla Magazine's cowardly behaviour and disgraceful journalism.

I agree with your suggestion that Assyrians worldwide should boycott the magazine, and I for one certainly have done the same.
 
Salem said:
I just read bits of the article, all I can say is "Khayya Ganyeheh", that was the best response to the dark forces trying to silence their critics.

Not only did they present again their facts & findings, but they've accompanied it with scanned copies of the contract used to purchase the house with Eva, which except the ones living in denial, everyone else knew about.

Good on them and may they continue to uncover the corruption in our community wherever it may be.
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Please show me the part in this article that proves he had affairs anyone (sorry contracts used to buy a house with someone doesn't count as proof).
 
This magazine proves one thing. Assyrians are THE MOST naive ethnicity in the whole wide world. The twisting of facts (or even worse, the twisting of fiction) and how it is interpreted is such a sad blight on our people. It is things like this article and the people who can believe the inuendo that make me incredibly ashamed of being Assyrian. I know not every Assyrian is a moron but I am sorry to say, at least 95% are.

A classic story is how a rumour started in Sydney that a photograph exists of Mar Meelis' mother in a bikini. Firstly, not one single person had seen it and if it did exist, SO BLOODY WHAT?

The woman who cuts Mar Meelis' hair had big breasts. Once again, SO WHAT? What does it prove?

Assyrians seriously need a reality check because they disgust me with their absolutely narrow vision.
 
To JohnSydney, MojaMoja, Rima, and Ninos123 aka 'Tommy'

I'm so sick and tired of blind sheep!
You MUST have your own brains right? Why would a Bishop purchase a house with a random member of his congregation? I mean seriously!!! Of the 4000 plus members, he decided to purchase a house with Eva??? Why her??? Why??? You can't be that simple minded, surely?

And MojaMoja your 100% correct when you call some Assyrian people naive, you and your above mentioned friends for instance. Even if someone put a picture of him with the girl in bed infront of you, you'd still find some way around logic! 'Oh well you can't actually see what they're doing, that doesn't prove anything' "the picture has been edited'

I just can't wait to see what web of lies the bishop spins in relation to this...or will he just ignore it and let the propaganda wheel he started spinning all those years ago do its job?

Wake up and smell the corruption!
 
They are related. That is their relationship. Seriously, you need a reality check. Eva is about to get married. The bishop is a prominant member of the community. Put yourself in his shoes. If you were going to fool around, would you do it with an Assyrian girl knowing full well that rumours start over nothing within our community?

Once again, there is NO proof, just a load of hot air.

Let me tell you an Assyrian joke.

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One day, David Chibo went to visit Temp and saw Temp reading a book. David had never seen Temp read a book before so he was surprised and asked Temp what the book was about. Temp told David that the book was about "Logic". David then asked, "what is logic"?

The conversation continued like this:

Temp: Let me give you an example. Do you have a violin?

David Chibo: As a matter of fact I do.

Temp: So from this, I guess you like music.

David: Yes that is true. You must be a genius.

Temp: (blushing at this comment) It gets better. Since you like music, can I assume you like dancing?

David: Yes, I like dancing.

Temp: Ok, so if you like dancing, you must like going to nightclubs or parties.

David: Yes, I love clubs.

Temp: I see, so if you like clubbing and dancing, you probably meet quite a few girls which you find attractive.

David: Yes, of course. (getting excited)

Temp: So, if you find girls attractive, then I guess you are NOT gay.

David: Of course. I am a straight male.

Temp: Ok David so you see how logic works? I knew you had a violin and from that, I worked out that you weren't gay.

David Chibo: Wow! This logic is amazing. Can I borrow this book?

Temp: No problems mate. Here you go (hands over the book)

David Chibo at this point goes home with this amazing book of Temp's

David Chibo is sitting at home when suddenly, the editor of Zinda magazine visits David. The editor sees David reading and is shocked because he had never seen David read.

The conversation:

Editor: What are you doing?

David Chibo: I am reading a book about "Logic"

Editor: What's that?

David Chibo: Let me give you an example. (Remembering the way Temp explained it to him) Do you have a violin?

Editor: A violin? Are you kidding? I have no idea how to play a violin.

David Chibo: (remembering what Temp had demonstrated to him) You don't have a violin? Well then you must be gay.

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This my friends is the way Assyrian minds work. They make something out of nothing.
 
Temp said:
To JohnSydney, MojaMoja, Rima, and Ninos123 aka 'Tommy'

I'm so sick and tired of blind sheep!
You MUST have your own brains right? Why would a Bishop purchase a house with a random member of his congregation? I mean seriously!!! Of the 4000 plus members, he decided to purchase a house with Eva??? Why her??? Why??? You can't be that simple minded, surely?

And MojaMoja your 100% correct when you call some Assyrian people naive, you and your above mentioned friends for instance. Even if someone put a picture of him with the girl in bed infront of you, you'd still find some way around logic! 'Oh well you can't actually see what they're doing, that doesn't prove anything' "the picture has been edited'

Wake up and smell the corruption!
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Who's the naive here?

So your calling us naive for simply wanting facts and evidence before jumping to conlusions? riiight....:bangin:

I have no idea why he bought a house with her (if indeed he did), but for someone to use this to conclude that he's having an affair is demonstrating naivety at it's best.

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"Ninos123 aka 'Tommy' "
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hmmm....i smell more conclusion jumping. Tommy is from Sydney, he must be ninos123! I suppose im Salem too? :mrgreen:
 
The whole thing with Zinda and Mar Meelis is pathetic. So, the man bought a house with a woman who he supposedly is having an affair with. A woman who I heard was married once before and is engaged again. I heard opponents of Mar Meelis got copies of the deed of the purhcased home and showed it to him. He replied she is a relative and I cosigned for her. Ok, if these are true, so what. 90% of our bishops have been condemned and rumored to have had affairs. If true, where is out church heading. Straight down the toilet. We have Sargon Dishdasha from one end, opponents of Mar Bawai on the other and Mar Dinkha sitting around doing nothing. If he is doing something, please I will retract my last statement. We need to seriously think about what the leaders of our churches are doing, or really who they are doing and stand up and take a stand. The livelyhood of our church hangs in the balane. If we had men like Mar Bawai who is risking and sacrificing everything for Christ so that people may live in righteousness. How disgusting and sickening this is. I have gotten a letter about onr of Mar Bawai's family members from Mar Dinkha's people. If you know what I am talking about, then you know how pathetic our heirarchy is and what needs to be done to change it. Boycott Zinda, I say boycott the church.
 
I can't believe these people are blaming the Bishop for their downfall.

What happened to karl.s. who really was behind all this.

I'm so angry at some Assyrians who are believing this crap, i mean after all the things the bishop done for the community and their still not happy. If the bishop has received some money from the investment, i'm sure his put it towards the church & school.
 
never mind being sure, he said he would return to investors if found to have been obtained unlawfully. Court proceedings are taking place and he will act upon the findings of the court. I just hope we don't have more Assyrians on 60 minutes saying, "what's primative means".
 
Moja Moja said:
never mind being sure, he said he would return to investors if found to have been obtained unlawfully. Court proceedings are taking place and he will act upon the findings of the court. I just hope we don't have more Assyrians on 60 minutes saying, "what's primative means".
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honestly, the word of the day, every day for assyrians of this nature are primative. god help us all. we seek to destroy one another, but not motivate and assist our own people. we are doomed :ban:
 
to all u pakheh who encourage this sort of 'journalism' listen up. its ppl like YOU who dont attend our church. its ppl like u who have no link or connection to the church of the east. its ppl like u who love seeing the church or its elders attacked by a man who is too big for his own boots.

calling us naive? applauding the facts? wot facts? not only does this chibo knob have scanned images of documents he isnt allowed to have in his posession to begin with, but there is no proof of a relationship between the bishop and eva, shes getting married soon anyway, so thats one rumour quashed. the guy bought a house with someone, woop ditty doo. does that mean his banging her? khasli

all u church of the east haters better wake up. look around the world, which city has the most progressive assyrian church movement? which city has the best church and facilities and youth structure put in place? the answer is sydney. ask urselves where sydney assyrians would be if mar meelis didnt leave california and come here in the 80s? would we have an identity? would we have a church? would we have a community?

dont call me naive when the facts are right under ur nose. this man has done so much for assyrians in australia and if u only knew the plans in place for the near future, ur jaw would drop. u ppl who attack this man and the church have no idea wot the hell is going on. this man is much more intelligent than all of us put together and yes he is human after all like us. judge him on what u see with ur own eyes, not by hearsay evidence or 2nd hand accounts.

u can attack mar bawai and mar meelis all u like, cos u dont wanna c the church of the east progress and grow but the fact remains that u cant beat the church with ur hate. go to ur orthodox shawa b'yarkha churches we dont want u trying to ruin our awesome church. good luck to u all

if any other smartass wants to post a bullshit reply plz do i dare u, this topic will be deleted if u dont watch wot u say
 
ive been hearing rumors of a split in san jose. mar bawai is doing his best to keep the church intact, but if not, a split is on the table. for the man he is, he can't even think about it, its all possibilities though. i hope, god willing that those who oppose this man are listening and praying to keep things together. every what 100 years there's a split? that's what i heard i dont know anything about that. can someone explain.

john aziza, we are all angry, calm down man. we can fight this together bro with our minds and hearts. if it comes down to fists, im down haha.
 
Showa b?yarkha IS the Assyrian Church of the East! Orthodox? Mate you need to wake up and learn a little about this community you rant about! It?s people like you and your separatist mates that kill the progression of our community and our church. Infact, what you just said, refrring to Showa b?yarkha as Orthodox goes against what Mar Meelis is hoping to achieve, unity among the different factions of the Assyrian Church of the East. And please!!! You?re the first one to complain about the Sydney Assyrian community so don?t jump on the band wagon after you?ve trashed it repeatedly.

The fact that Mar Meelis purchased a house with this woman shows he does have some form of a relationship with her, whether or not it was a physical one where he broke his vow of chastity only two people will ever know. But explain to me this?how is a man who?s meant to be poor, through the vows he?s taken, going to help this relative of his out by co-signing the purchase of the house? Do banks accept good will as currency these days? And if he wasn?t living with her, then why did he sign papers stipulating that he was? Wouldn?t that constitue a lie? A lie to the Commonwealth of Australia? A lie in the eyes of the Lord? If our religious exemplar is knowingly and willingly commiting such sins, should he not be rebuked? And you yourself said he is an intelligent man, can?t claim ignorance on this one!

Before Mar Meelis showed up there was an Assyrian church standing. There was a sense of community established. There were youth programes in place. So don?t give me this garbage about HIM doing all this. The youth returning to the church is the result of a few Assyrians reading their bibles in their homes and approaching the bishop to get things rolling. The church that?s built is the result of every Assyrian individual who reached into their own pocket and gave money! The school that was built was also built by the people. The retirement villiage will ALSO be built by the community. It boils my blood when people act as if the man is God himself!! The praise you give him, you should give to the LORD!!!! None of this would have been achieved without GOD, not Mar Meelis!

And just to educate you a bit?The Assyrian Church of the East, Showa b?yarkha has also got a beautiful church built. They have youth programes, Bible studies in Assyrian and English, Assyrian language lessons. This segment also helped establish Omrit Mat Maryam and its hall as well as the 5 achers that Mar Meelish later sold, which aided in the building of Rabin Hormizd. Showa b?yarkha started from scratch in 1989, they had nothing and what they have achieved and continue to achieve had NOTHING to do with Mar Meelis. And let?s not forget what the Chaldean Church has achieved here in Sydney. This was all done by the grace of GOD!!!!
 
temp does have a point. i don't fully agree with what mar meelis has done, if any of it is true. but they are human who make mistakes and they are men who gave their life to the Lord but made some harmful mistakes. The Lord will forgive, it is the community who won't. That is the sad part about all of this. and temp, i don't what it's like in australia, but the community you refer to does not exist in san jose. we have to have memberships in order for people to give. the idea of 10% or whatever figure it is is out of the question. drastic measures were taken all for the good of the church. john you're going a little too far with telling people to go to other churches. i think you're how do we assyrians say it: mat'yootet hon'ookh b'honeh. a bit more of a civilized discussion would help. naive we are, primitive we shouldn't act, and selfish we will always be. my point is, lay off and seek the truth. be thankful for what you have regardless of what humanly man/woman created those services. God provides and he provided sydney, not mar meelis. HE gave Mar Meelis the chance to do it and we should praise God. San Jose is changing as well. It is a long, tedious process, but we are finally entering your ranks and I am thankful. Mar Bawai is receiving his grace from the Lord and good things are happening. I would be a hypocrite if i was to say lay off the bashing, because i bashed people earlier. but ur previous threats and statements weren't necessary. even a man of Christ such as yourself should know better. disagree with love man,this should echo throughout every assyrian community.
 
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