Why are we here?

Salem

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As in, what's the purpose of our existence not why we're on AVN!

I don't believe that there is a reason, we're insignificant creatures in this big universe that will live its course and then die, no higher purpose nor do I think that we're in a test to win a one-way ticket to a better place after our death.
 
To do is to be:  Aristotle
To be is to do:  Plato
Do bee do bee do:  Sinatra

Does that answer your question?
 
Salem said:
As in, what's the purpose of our existence not why we're on AVN!

I don't believe that there is a reason, we're insignificant creatures in this big universe that will live its course and then die, no higher purpose nor do I think that we're in a test to win a one-way ticket to a better place after our death.

I concur, if you compare the life span of humans on this earth compared to the age of this earth
You will see how insignificant we are.
 
Assyrianism said:
I concur, if you compare the life span of humans on this earth compared to the age of this earth
You will see how insignificant we are.

If time was represented in an hour, humans have only exsisted for 7 seconds of that hour

I don't know the answer to this. I don't think we have to bother ourselves with this answer either. We're here, we have life and experience and that's pretty damn significant in my eyes. I also believe there's more than just what we know.

For some, they find it in something grand, i.e. to make the world a better place, and others find it within mundane life, i.e. raising a family, etc.

The answer to that question is shaped by the individual. Purpose is personal.
 
What have you eaten today? You're on a roll today with the topics and are full of questions.
 
If life had no purpose, then all we do is eat, drink, sleep and then die....


Surely there is more to life than that.....



My Answer to this Q is purely From a Christian point of view.... everyone knows it, so i will spare saying it :)
 
Salem said:
As in, what's the purpose of our existence not why we're on AVN!

I don't believe that there is a reason, we're insignificant creatures in this big universe that will live its course and then die, no higher purpose nor do I think that we're in a test to win a one-way ticket to a better place after our death.

I don't know that answer but I think this portion should be written like so

I don't believe that there is a reason, we're insignificant creatures in this big universe that will live its course and then die, no higher purpose nor do I think that we're in a test to win a one-way ticket to a better place after our death.




Because it sounds very commie
 
Salem, i'm totally on board with everything you said.  Bertrand russell put it greatly in answering this question:

He stated, "The universe may have a purpose, but nothing we know suggests that, if so, this purpose has any similarity to ours".

I think ppl make huge assumptions when they think there's a 'plan'.  I also think that ppl are wishful thinkers and let that influence their views on this question.  I mean, i love the idea of eternal bliss and cosmic justice (as envisioned in my head, not according to christianity), but NOTHING suggests that it is a reality.  It's merely wishful thinking, combined with the fear of death and irrelevance.  What we would like the answer to be should have no influence on what reality is telling us.
 
To make it as far as we can as a living force to strive to the best of our ablity against all that in nonliving. My answer gives a very simple perspective, but with everything most of us are going to face, I feel this is enough. Life is tough as it is. Every positive aspect of it, whether it relates to achievement or happines both at a personal & group level, requires some extent of effort that's not always so easy to muster up. Hopefully, some sense of personal peace & gratification will come through in the end after all has been done.
 
This is very good topic Salem, I've been actually wondering about existence and consciousness the past couple of days too, it's just a fascinating mystery, mind you none of us have the real answer to the topic but it does make a good topic for discussion.

For me I'm more interested in the scientific side than the religious side because with science you only deal with facts and evidence while religions require you to believe in something that's not there, but the truth is science in itself still has no answer in this subject, so until there's some sort of evidence it's all speculation based on educated guesses, for instance the purpose of life probably depends on what you think of it, it's up to the individual who's going through this physical experience to say what the purpose is, some people think the purpose is to help others, some think it's to worship a God, then you have others who think it's merely just a physical experience and we live it to the fullest, the science guess these days is to pass on our genes and try to survive as a specie, you see nature does not care much about the survival of the individual but it does when it comes to specie survival, of course you have the concept of natural selection where probable random events work against certain species, or are they really random events? Who knows.

I find the topic of consciousness a little more fascinating than the topic of why we are here, the whole problem of body and soul really makes up a good debate and unlike the purpose of life, science may eventually figure out how consciousness works sooner than we think, does the body have a soul that's conscious after death? Are the mind and body separate entities? What about our brains? Are we just a pack of neurons that when we die we just don't exist anymore? What about some of the phenomenons that happen with NDE's and so on where the individual is still conscious yet their body (Including their brain) contains no activity? But then we felt nothing before death so we must be heading the same direction, right? Well, you cannot experience nothing because there's no such thing as nothing, there's always something, but what is this experience? Is it a conscious one? Ahh just so many questions, I think a forum Neurologist would be nice to have, but we'll settle for the closest thing we have, Renee? :lol:
 
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