White racist:"Ancient Middle Easterners more similar to Europeans"

Etain

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Thought someone might get a kick out of how ignorant and stupid this man is.
Modern Arabs, for the most part, are not the same racially as their ancient ancestors. Trade routes and African colonization led to mixing with the Blacks, which has obviously led to sharp decline in their general capabilities. They were also invaded and heavily mixed with the Mongols during that invasion.
The ancient people living in the Middle East were probably not all that similar to modern Europeans, though they were more similar to us than most Arabs presently are, as far as intelligence and skin tone.
Basically, these people are all extinct as a distinct racial group, due to the amount of race-mixing which took place in the area over the last 3000 years.
Imagery from the time shows people who slightly resemble Europeans (at least more so than they resemble any other existing race), though with bigger noses and curly hair, slightly more Asiatic eyes.

One can't help but acknowledge the glory of Ashur and Nineveh,but he can't bring himself to admit these things were created by tan,dark haired people. He's almost trying to take credit for it.
Assyrians definitely had that nose, but were presumably much Whiter. Sometimes you see intelligent Arabs with lighter skin who look similar to these folks here.
I don't imagine the Assyrians have changed much racially for thousands of years.
Whatever the case, the modern Middle Easterners almost certainly have a shared ancestry with these peoples?, even while that ancestry is also shared with Blacks and Asians, and one can see how connecting with this aspect of their ancestry could help them progress their understanding of their identity as a people, and assist in the formation of a new pan-Arab state.
Yeah,they built cool stuff until it was all destroyed by imaginary race mixing.The amount of delusion here is off the charts.

And it's not even true either. The Mongols destroyed Baghdad and left. They didn't interbreed. There is almost no black admixture in Middle Easterners,even North Africans don't have that much.
https://archive.is/cJxUb
 
Etain said:
these things were created by tan,dark haired people.

I'd be careful with that one :p I've seen a lot of light-skinned Assyrians. I've always felt we look more like Israelis than we do Arabs.
 
White nationalists are funny in that way. They will reject everyone as 'non-white' but when talking about history and civilizations all of a sudden they used to be white so that they can claim them and their accomplishments.
 
Kelba said:
I'd be careful with that one :p I've seen a lot of light-skinned Assyrians. I've always felt we look more like Israelis than we do Arabs.
I'm not saying like dark brown,but the typical Assyrian seems to be light-medium olive skinned with brown or black hair. At any rate,this guy is trying to lump them in with Europeans.
 
He's a racist to an extent for sure (i.e. lighter people being "more" intelligent), but let's not make an ad hominem here - He is actually right about the physical characteristic differences between Assyrians and Arabs. We do not look the same.

Many Assyrians are light skinned to medium-olive in general - The typical Assyrian woman looks like Sandra Bullock. Kelba is right at the fact that we resemble Israelis more (and Italians, should I add) than Arabs, namely those from the Gulf. Lebanon and Syria also have a decent amount of fair-skinned people. And who said Europeans are all white? A lot of Southern Europeans can be rather brown even.

Europeans came from us anyway. If you believe in the Out of Africa theory, when we came out of Africa, some of us stayed in the Middle East and others went to Europe or the Caucasus - where the white/Caucasian race supposedly evolved. After all, European or not, Assyrians are still Caucasian.

The idea of a brown-skinned, broad nosed, curly Middle Eastern is a mere stereotype based on Arabs from the South, who would look that way. Now I don't know Ashur looked like, but he wouldn't have resembled a Saudi Arabian prince.

Typical Assyrians:

assyrian-activism-history-culture-ninos-aho-13.jpg

assyrians_california.jpg

west%20assyrians.jpg
 
Neon said:
He's a racist to an extent for sure (i.e. lighter people being "more" intelligent), but let's not make an ad hominem here - He is actually right about the physical characteristic differences between Assyrians and Arabs. We do not look the same.

Many Assyrians are light skinned to medium-olive in general - The typical Assyrian woman looks like Sandra Bullock. Kelba is right at the fact that we resemble Israelis more (and Italians, should I add) than Arabs, namely those from the Gulf. Lebanon and Syria also have a decent amount of fair-skinned people. And who said Europeans are all white? A lot of Southern Europeans can be rather brown even.

Europeans came from us anyway. If you believe in the Out of Africa theory, when we came out of Africa, some of us stayed in the Middle East and others went to Europe or the Caucasus - where the white/Caucasian race supposedly evolved. After all, European or not, Assyrians are still Caucasian.

The idea of a brown-skinned, broad nosed, curly Middle Eastern is a mere stereotype based on Arabs from the South, who would look that way. Now I don't know Ashur looked like, but he wouldn't have resembled a Saudi Arabian prince.

Typical Assyrians:

assyrian-activism-history-culture-ninos-aho-13.jpg

assyrians_california.jpg

west%20assyrians.jpg
He's basically saying every great achievement is done by whites,as if the people who lived there don't deserve a claim to their country's own heritage.He's also an unapologetic racist.Look it up if you don't believe me. He also refers to the ancient monuments as being "Arab".

If I showed those pictures to a friend of mine who didn't know who Assyrians where(which is all of them),they would probably guess these people were Lebanese or Syrian.Possibly Greek or Italian.
The darkest Arabs are the ones of the Arabian peninsula and possibly Egyptians.
 
Etain said:
He's basically saying every great achievement is done by whites,as if the people who lived there don't deserve a claim to their country's own heritage.He's also an unapologetic racist.Look it up if you don't believe me. He also refers to the ancient monuments as being "Arab".

If I showed those pictures to a friend of mine who didn't know who Assyrians where(which is all of them),they would probably guess these people were Lebanese or Syrian.Possibly Greek or Italian.
The darkest Arabs are the ones of the Arabian peninsula and possibly Egyptians.
What does he exactly mean though? Whites as in Europeans? Like, they came from Europe and built the Middle Eastern civilizations and went back to Europe again? Okay, now that is plain stupid (of him).

BUT, if he plainly meant that some Middle Eastern people (i.e. ancient Assyrians, Akkadians) were fair-skinned and more lighter than their Arab counterparts, in which that is certainly true, then I don't see how he's "racist". Arabs would naturally be darker than us. Now if he were to say ancient Egyptians were white then I really would disagree with him.

And you're right, we would pass as Greek, Italian or Lebanese in general. And the darkest Arabs are indeed form the Arabian peninsula and Egypt.
 
Neon said:
What does he exactly mean though? Whites as in Europeans? Like, they came from Europe and built the Middle Eastern civilizations and went back to Europe again? Okay, now that is plain stupid (of him).

BUT, if he plainly meant that some Middle Eastern people (i.e. ancient Assyrians, Akkadians) were fair-skinned and more lighter than their Arab counterparts, in which that is certainly true, then I don't see how he's "racist". Arabs would naturally be darker than us. Now if he were to say ancient Egyptians were white then I really would disagree with him.

And you're right, we would pass as Greek, Italian or Lebanese in general. And the darkest Arabs are indeed form the Arabian peninsula and Egypt.
He means "the white race" was once spread out in the middle east, persia,india and all the accomplishments at the time were done by white people.But somehow race mixing made them all dark or whatever and stupid as a result.
 
Etain said:
He means "the white race" was once spread out in the middle east, persia,india and all the accomplishments at the time were done by white people.But somehow race mixing made them all dark or whatever and stupid as a result.
Okay, yeah, that is definitely a ridiculous claim (and it even goes against science).

What's his background? And what's his idea of a "white" person? The Nordics/Germans, or anyone from Europe (including Greeks/Romans)?
 
While we're on the topic,anyone think Berbers are interesting people? They are really racially diverse.
 
Etain said:
While we're on the topic,anyone think Berbers are interesting people? They are really racially diverse.
Yep, very diverse. From blondes to rather subsaharan African looking. I'm guessing the lighter ones would have European blood here and there (Greek, Roman, French).

This Berber soccer player, for instance, doesn't look 100% North African:

karim......_20_156__400x400.jpg
 
Neon said:
Yep, very diverse. From blondes to rather subsaharan African looking. I'm guessing the lighter ones would have European blood here and there (Greek, Roman, French).

This Berber soccer player, for instance, doesn't look 100% North African:

karim......_20_156__400x400.jpg
I think they are a fascinating people,both in terms of race and culture.
I don't know if they have any european admixture though.They have been messing around in north africa for thousands of years.
This is interesting.
http://tamazightinou.blogspot.com/2012/05/kahina-queen-of-berbers.html
berber queen who fought the arabs
 
Etain said:
I think they are a fascinating people,both in terms of race and culture.
I don't know if they have any european admixture though.They have been messing around in north africa for thousands of years.
This is interesting.
http://tamazightinou.blogspot.com/2012/05/kahina-queen-of-berbers.html
berber queen who fought the arabs
They really are a mixed peoples (with European admixture), according to a segment in the article you linked:

North Africa was conquered by the Phoenicians (who became the Carthaginians), then the Romans, the Vandals (one of the Germanic tribes that destroyed the Roman Empire), the Byzantines, and finally the Arabs. Other foreigners, notably Greeks and Jews, also lived in ancient North Africa.

That explains everything, why some of them are very fair and others not so much.
 
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