What is with Evin Agassi....?
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Ashur ripped so many songs not only from Arabic,french greeks,but from his own Assyrian singers.
Ashur made a career for himself with BiBA's sings.
Songs:
Len Bikhshawa/Biba
Dimit ainati/Biba
marra zalim/biba
Sogolti Yimmi / malik mirza
Leh maseh ateh youma / Pesian song by Viguen
Hala leet /Italian song
tanili layly..From old Assyrian singer forgot his name
Rosh jwanqa...Same old rabi Jibrael babylla
So he is not a saint either
Ashur made a career for himself with BiBA's sings.
Songs:
Len Bikhshawa/Biba
Dimit ainati/Biba
marra zalim/biba
Sogolti Yimmi / malik mirza
Leh maseh ateh youma / Pesian song by Viguen
Hala leet /Italian song
tanili layly..From old Assyrian singer forgot his name
Rosh jwanqa...Same old rabi Jibrael babylla
So he is not a saint either
mishtutho said:
Influenced? yes. When I play the guitar and write music, you can hear my influences... But I am a big fan of neopolitan music, and I have Viguen's music from early in his career, and I have not recognized an Ashur song from it. If you hear Viguen, it's most likely Suren. Qma Quyra Pokha, sounds an awful lot like Faramarz Aslani's Age Ye Rooz... but they're still not the same either.
The truth is that Ashur is original. And he is not a saint, by any means... but he writes his own music and arranges the instruments himself. He is the closest we have to having a musical artist.
KhIgGaAaAaAa
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funny you should say that cause the info on that song says that Ashur wrote the lyrics and Faramarz Aslani did the music lol so at least he gives credit to where he got it not like other biters. music is always oing to be passed around and changed but the biggest biter of all time is Walter Aziz...that guy rips off songs from other assyrians then promotes them as his own without any permission.
AssyrianBookTa
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i just can't believe any of you attacking a singer that has made such great music. I remember growing up in iraq if we got caught listining to his music we got in trouble. he has sung some of the most beautiful patriotic music ever, you may not like his music but for you to bash him on re-singing someone else's song is pretty bad.
I'm not sure what he said to your husband browneyes but if thats something that really offended him that much he would have said something no i man i know would allot that if he felt offended.
and spitting in someones face..what nasty person could even think like that. what are we koumaya?
I'm not sure what he said to your husband browneyes but if thats something that really offended him that much he would have said something no i man i know would allot that if he felt offended.
and spitting in someones face..what nasty person could even think like that. what are we koumaya?
Anitaaaaaaaaaa
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jonadona said:You guys are funny. He doesn't care what you think of him. Whether you like him or not, he is still one of the best Assyrian singers in our history. I'll bet he's gonna go broke because you don't like him anymore...NOT!
YEah he just called me now telling me why i said shame on him, he said it was kind rude and he start crying like baby, so i said its ok Evin its ok ur not ashem just dont cry :shades:
Free_Assyria
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no singer has come close to what Evan has done with this songs for Assyrian patriotism.
:blink:BrOwN eYeS said:i know a lot of assyrians love him, but my husband hates him....to be honest with u, he was rude to my husband, my husband was talking and he spoke like zakho way thats how we speak it u know then Ewan goes to him, ate lawit atoraya, ate chaldanie, so leave the party, my husband goes i thought there is no diffrence between chaldeans and assyrians, my husband got sooo pissed off so he left
tihe-othur
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let's talk about the 3 different kurdish bagiye songs i found and a turkish one!!!!!! :bangin:
and diana haddad's bagiye. turks, kurds, arab, also rip our music!!!!
and diana haddad's bagiye. turks, kurds, arab, also rip our music!!!!
Assyrian Pianist
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Anitaaaaaaaaaa said:Okk sorry for those people who "Love" Evin Agassi but he is such loser and copy cat he always copy Greek and turkish songs.... :ranting: why cant our singer have thier own music and songs :bangin:
Here is a song that Evin stole from greek songs or music
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hi Anita,
Ok, this greek song, didn't ring a bell at all. Can you tell me which song you're refering to, so i can find it and hear the similarities for myself, please? Also, you seem to be totally convinced that Evin "Alwayscopycats Greek and Turkish music. Do you have some hard evidence for that, or it was just something that you decided to throw out here...I would like to learn more about your experience in this regard, if you dont' mind?
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ninous26 said:
Dude, that's not even Evin..lol...that's Yourik who lives in log angeles. He did that "tani tani" song. By the way, in case if you didn't know (which obviously you don't) taking melodies from someone else is not a new surprise. This is been going on for the past 1200 years, if not more. Have you heard "greensleeves"? then you must've heard "what child is this" which is the same melody, but it's a christmas carol. I could think of 1000 songs right now, that have been taken from other resources, there's nothing wrong with it. If you take someone else's melody, and call it your own original composition, that's a big "no no no"...Yourik never said that. He simply did that because it was a famous turkish song, and every body would recognize it.
petervocals
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from what i've seen from following assyrian music......talal graish is one of the select few that has original music.
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AssyrianBookTa said:
ha ha ha...you said it all girl. This guy has over 400 songs. Of course, not all of them are great. But that's the case with any singer. Lots of people grew up listening to his songs. Even the least musicially talented people would probably recognize some of his hit songs in a heart beat. He's done a lot of work for assyrian music. Lots of great "original" melodies with meaningful lyrics for different occasions.
Cascade
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Idgaf how old this thread this, but the OP is a fool beyond all measures and I'll do my best to correct her ignorance! And it's sad that there are people following her BS, being concordant to her putrid opinion.
First, have some respect. He's an old man and he has stood up for our nation. He's not someone your age where you would write such ridiculous and frivolous crap about him. Second, and most importantly, Evin doesn't create the melodies nor even write the songs. Have you heard of composers and lyricists? Yep, they're the ones who create the melodies. So, if anything, blame them.
Lastly, since you're so naïve (at that time I hope), you would not be aware that even Ashur Bet Sargis (also a good singer btw) has melodies based on European songs. Yep, some of his melodies are akin to French, Eastern European and American pop music from the 70s. But of course, since you're Assyrian, you don't listen to Slavic or French music as much as you do with Turkish or Greek music.
I know this is is from 2007, but god it's the most triggering thing I've ever found on this forum. I want these people to be put in their spot regardless of when they wrote it. Whether it's 1 day old or 2000 years old, I will still have my say and defend the greatest Assyrian singer of all time, especially against the unwanted and unjust smear he's gotten here. Hopefully the mods will understand my action.
Glad that a young person like you has some sanity and coherence. At least at that time. Lol.
EDIT (something to clear out):
The OP and the concordant posters only chose like what, 4-5 "copied" songs (and I'm aware of them). When the man has made, I don't know, over 400 original songs? Lol. Yep, clearly a plagiarist. Another great musician, Linda George (whom I love to death mind you), also has a few "copied" Kurdish, Persian and Turkish songs. It happens. Western musicians do it too. It's called a COVER.
And guess what, the original artists are CREDITED on the Assyrian albums btw - Something that the OP and her theorists FAILED to see.
Again, this thread is NOT fair and is completely biased.
First, have some respect. He's an old man and he has stood up for our nation. He's not someone your age where you would write such ridiculous and frivolous crap about him. Second, and most importantly, Evin doesn't create the melodies nor even write the songs. Have you heard of composers and lyricists? Yep, they're the ones who create the melodies. So, if anything, blame them.
Lastly, since you're so naïve (at that time I hope), you would not be aware that even Ashur Bet Sargis (also a good singer btw) has melodies based on European songs. Yep, some of his melodies are akin to French, Eastern European and American pop music from the 70s. But of course, since you're Assyrian, you don't listen to Slavic or French music as much as you do with Turkish or Greek music.
Go listen to electro "zurna and dawola" synthesized music that are about mathwatheh and jwanqeh shetraneh. Guessing you like Munadhel Tomika?Barwarneta said:
Amazed at how a person can be hated so intensely for doing nothing, and where they warrant a death threat for it!? Utterly disgusting. :bann:Anitaaaaaaaaaa said:
I find that so hard to believe. Lmao.BrOwN eYeS said:i know a lot of assyrians love him, but my husband hates him....to be honest with u, he was rude to my husband, my husband was talking and he spoke like zakho way thats how we speak it u know then Ewan goes to him, ate lawit atoraya, ate chaldanie, so leave the party, my husband goes i thought there is no diffrence between chaldeans and assyrians, my husband got sooo pissed off so he left
You had the audacity to invent a vile lie and now you say this? Shame on you.BrOwN eYeS said:
With the alias of "Hilwa" you obviously wouldn't get what he's saying. I take it that you speak Arabic more than you speak Assyrian.Hilwa said:
I know this is is from 2007, but god it's the most triggering thing I've ever found on this forum. I want these people to be put in their spot regardless of when they wrote it. Whether it's 1 day old or 2000 years old, I will still have my say and defend the greatest Assyrian singer of all time, especially against the unwanted and unjust smear he's gotten here. Hopefully the mods will understand my action.
Just immature little girls who dig younger, more "attractive" men and are mad that an older average looking man is more famous.AssyrianBookTa said:
Glad that a young person like you has some sanity and coherence. At least at that time. Lol.
EDIT (something to clear out):
The OP and the concordant posters only chose like what, 4-5 "copied" songs (and I'm aware of them). When the man has made, I don't know, over 400 original songs? Lol. Yep, clearly a plagiarist. Another great musician, Linda George (whom I love to death mind you), also has a few "copied" Kurdish, Persian and Turkish songs. It happens. Western musicians do it too. It's called a COVER.
And guess what, the original artists are CREDITED on the Assyrian albums btw - Something that the OP and her theorists FAILED to see.
Again, this thread is NOT fair and is completely biased.
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Assyrian Pianist
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This thread started wrong and of course it took multiple wrong turns as usual. There's nothing wrong with reproducing the song in other languages. This happens everywhere on daily basis. That's a general statement as there are technical details. This is one thing, but not liking an Assyrian singer covering Turkish/Persian/Arabic songs is a completely different matter. I do not like Evin's Turkish songs. I like his very own material. He's got his original repertoire and there are excellent songs especially from his older albums. I can't use my own personal taste to judge a recording artist. He deserves respect. He's been around for at least 45 years, and many grew up listening and dancing to his songs. It's not like he had a record label and a team or producers with a ton of money to support his career. He did it all at his own risk. I'm sure he's got bunch of crappy songs, but who doesn't?