Video: israeli palestinian conflict and the assyrian case

And I just remember, if you read the Bible, you can read that all his life he was jewish, he went to the synagogue, learn from the rabbins,...

So I really think you're wrong guys or maybe it's a misunderstanding between us :p
 
And it's not because now we call Him Jesus-Christ that at his time, he was called Jesus-Christ, I'm quite sure, they called Him Jeshukh/Jeshwa or the new king (descendant of king david) or something like that but not Jesus-Christ...
 
shekwanta said:
okay...ehem.....first read my comment (b4 this one)       cause am just not convinced! (thick-headed!  :dry: )
u know hayruta.....ive got other examples (but i just dont wanna write them here inside)  ammm...let me say an example: ammm.....
mushilmane!!!, they have a prophet right!!!!?....now the prophet was the first person who believed in "mashloome" [[the "mooshilmana" religion]]....so he was NOT christiana!!!!  he was ("mooshilmana") and he brought people to that religion....... u get what am saying?    (OMG! this is complicated!)




((So he was neither a Jew or a Christian...))----> well what was he then?  :shades:
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Muhammad was a prophet but according to Christianity Jesus was not, he was God.

AlexSuryoyo said:
Lol my apologies for the rudeness, don't feel the weight of my words in english, it's not my mother tonge  :oops:

But guys, Jesus was jewish, here why: Jews were waiting for the messi and the messi came (Jesus) but the jews refused to believe in Him because like you said He broke some jewish rules and wanted to modify some of the jewish beliefs (or whatever it is, you get my point) but He was jewish and came for the jews.

Even on the cross, he was still jewish, some jews believed in him after thet because they saw that He was really the messi, so all his live He was jewish but the jews didn't believe in him, then the people who believe in him separate themselves from the jews and formed a new religion, christianity.

It's my version but I think all the Churches agree on it, ask to your priests, mine told me that it was right, so I really think he was jewish and christianity didn't exist at his time ;)
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That should be the biggest point for him not being Jewish. If his religion had other laws than Judaism then the question is... was it Judaism then? Another things is that he was God according to the Bible. So would it make sense that he submitted to his own laws and learning his own laws from a rabbi? As to what i know he as actually teaching the rabbis as a kid.


Though this is quite off-topic if you may and this is something that could last forever.
 
okay......so how about this!!!!----> jesus was born JEWISH ((BUT)) he was christian he believed in other religion, not jewish religion!.......how about that ??? does that work??


just like 7ayruta said.....(christian jews)  jews who became christian!!! ...........how is that???  :guns:
 
AlexSuryoyo said:
In general, europeans don't care about religion and about the germans, you can't blame them, they present their excuses and repaid their debt. They know what they did and don't feel right about it not like the turks and kurds who still refuse to admit it...
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True. I can never forgive and forget. And Europeans don't care about Germans either! But hey. I am half English, so we don't care about anyone else in Europe! Oh Britannia!

But of course I don't say such things when you are doing concerts around ze fatherland!  :shades:
 
AssyrianDrummer said:
True. I can never forgive and forget. And Europeans don't care about Germans either! But hey. I am half English, so we don't care about anyone else in Europe! Oh Britannia!

But of course I don't say such things when you are doing concerts around ze fatherland!  :shades:
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ehem  "cough" ..... u are british??????  :shades:  really!  :shades:
 
shekwanta said:
ehem  "cough" ..... u are british??????  :shades:  really!
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With thanks to my father. yes i am.

No, we don't dress in top hats, have goofy teeth or sit around eating cucumber sandwiches!
 
AssyrianDrummer said:
With thanks to my father. yes i am.

No, we don't dress in top hats, have goofy teeth or sit around eating cucumber sandwiches!
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:giggle: :giggle:  nooo didnt think so!!!...wasnt gonna say that!  :mrgreen:                (although!, that cucumber sandwich sounds weird! ive heard about that!!)




sooooooo....u cant speak assyrian??
 
shekwanta said:
:giggle: :giggle:   nooo didnt think so!!!...wasnt gonna say that!  :mrgreen:                (although!, that cucumber sandwich sounds weird! ive heard about that!!)




sooooooo....u cant speak assyrian??
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Broken Assyrian  :giggle:

Only stuff that I would know from speaking with my family. I'm not full British or Assyrian.

But this is hardly about Israel or Palestine! lol
 
It's good to see half assyrians care about our culture and our nation, even if they're from big countries like UK or US  :)

And about Israel, do you think they'll quit one day their colonies??

I like this nation but I also think they should respect the frontiers of 1967 even if they built entire cities in this colonies, it isn't faire, they got a country, what do they want?? All the middel east?? At least they get their territory, we assyrians are still stateless and it's the most frustrating thing in the world for  a people like assyrians  :blush2:
 
AssyrianDrummer said:
Broken Assyrian  :giggle:

Only stuff that I would know from speaking with my family. I'm not full British or Assyrian.

But this is hardly about Israel or Palestine! lol
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oh! hmm! :)  well!........... :)

hey listen, is ur mom ashtnetha ?? do u know what that means?  i mean......which "side" does ur mom come from? which "asheera" ??        (OMG! i cant say this is english! i dont speak pure english!)
 
AlexSuryoyo said:
It's good to see half assyrians care about our culture and our nation, even if they're from big countries like UK or US  :)

And about Israel, do you think they'll quit one day their colonies??

I like this nation but I also think they should respect the frontiers of 1967 even if they built entire cities in this colonies, it isn't faire, they got a country, what do they want?? All the middel east?? At least they get their territory, we assyrians are still stateless and it's the most frustrating thing in the world for  a people like assyrians  :blush2:
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It is half of my family's culture and if I'm honest, the part I spend the most time with and get on with a lot more. I respect and take interest anything for my family.

But then again, I don't like to flaunt and use it to try and be someone I am not. I admit, I am not Christian like the rest of my family and I do not speak enough Assyrian than everybody else here.

I won't do an Obama and pull out some random Irish roots from 300 years ago and then go and invade the country to "find myself"  :shades:


And regards to Israel. It is just greed. They think the world owes them favours for the past.

Shekwanta, I will message you any questions you have about my weird and wonderful family, because this conversation could take up the whole thread about Israel!!  :)
 
AssyrianDrummer said:
They think the world owes them favours for the past.
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I also agree with you, ok the world owes them favours for the past but it's already done, they got a country, more power than any other country of the same size, every country in the west support them. I think it's enough...
 
7ayruta said:
I agree all the way with you on this one  :)

It's even like their mentality is like "Do unto other as the nazis did to us."

Take a look at this short clip of a speech by Norman Finkelstein. He's a LION .. I wish we had people like him, fighting for our case too.

Here's the vid: Jewish girl tries to criticise Dr. Norman Finkelstein
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A brilliant man! Nobody has the right to simply shrug off the actions of the Holocaust. Those that do are heartless Nazis trying to defend murderers.

Yes, the generation of that time has almost gone. But It has only been 70 odd years. You cannot forgive and forget the atrocities. And all this bullshit about "propaganda" making them do it. That's a load as well. You don't give up your friends and neighbors to the Nazis and suddenly adopt extremism without not having those feelings in the first place.
 
AssyrianDrummer said:
A brilliant man! Nobody has the right to simply shrug off the actions of the Holocaust. Those that do are heartless Nazis trying to defend murderers.

Yes, the generation of that time has almost gone. But It has only been 70 odd years. You cannot forgive and forget the atrocities. And all this bull**** about "propaganda" making them do it. That's a load as well. You don't give up your friends and neighbors to the Nazis and suddenly adopt extremism without not having those feelings in the first place.
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Sorry bro, im not sure i understood the highlighted part in the quote-box ?
 
I am talking about the Holocaust and about how some germans think they can say "oops" and forget.

Basically what Finkelstein says in his video  :)
 
7ayruta said:
Here's the vid: Jewish girl tries to criticise Dr. Norman Finkelstein
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oh pleaseeeeee!   since when did he (the man in the video) become an arab lover?? an arab fan??  :shades:     7ayruta am telling u...i live here!!, and if u think  ANY german is an arab fan!!u r wrong!!!!!!!!!!.......u have NO idea how they treat arabs here! no idea!!!!!

i swear the god awa nasha in the video is "dagala"  he is "dooglana" !!!!!!.....if these ppl fell in love with arabs, then they love everbody! cause only arabs are left that they dont like!...i swear the GOD if they see a woman with  "hijab" (u know what that is!)   its better 4 them to see satan!!!!


its really amazing that he admits his parents (both of them) are extrimests, how nice!!! ........
and in the end he says...."if there is one thing u should be crying for, is the arabs of palestina"   LOL why would a person cry on  somebody else when he/ or she   are equal to what happend to palestina!!.............. i mean,, (jews kill palestinian..........nazis kill jews)    how is that different??


i would now make some racist statments "comments"  but am kinda worried...u can never know if the phone line is watched!  :dry:


all am saying is.....remember the old germans who used to walk around  qtala hoodaye and thinking they are malket dunye..they r still the same!
oh and....one more thing!  (the only reason jarmanyae kill jews...is because jews killed jesus)  but am SUREEEEE jesus would not forgive anybody who kills  jews  (his will:  "dont kill!" )  and that goes for everybody!
 
shekwanta said:
oh pleaseeeeee!   since when did he (the man in the video) become an arab lover?? an arab fan??  :shades:     7ayruta am telling u...i live here!!, and if u think  ANY german is an arab fan!!u r wrong!!!!!!!!!!.......u have NO idea how they treat arabs here! no idea!!!!!

i swear the god awa nasha in the video is "dagala"  he is "dooglana" !!!!!!.....if these ppl fell in love with arabs, then they love everbody! cause only arabs are left that they dont like!...i swear the GOD if they see a woman with  "hijab" (u know what that is!)   its better 4 them to see satan!!!!


its really amazing that he admits his parents (both of them) are extrimests, how nice!!! ........
and in the end he says...."if there is one thing u should be crying for, is the arabs of palestina"   LOL why would a person cry on  somebody else when he/ or she   are equal to what happend to palestina!!.............. i mean,, (jews kill palestinian..........nazis kill jews)    how is that different??


i would now make some racist statments "comments"  but am kinda worried...u can never know if the phone line is watched!  :dry:


all am saying is.....remember the old germans who used to walk around  qtala hoodaye and thinking they are malket dunye..they r still the same!
oh and....one more thing!  (the only reason jarmanyae kill jews...is because jews killed jesus)  but am SUREEEEE jesus would not forgive anybody who kills  jews  (his will:  "dont kill!" )  and that goes for everybody!
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OH .... MY .... GOD

Shekwanta i don't know what world you live in but EVERY single point you made was totally out in the cosmos.

1. I know how Europe is... I live here, remember? Nothing more different in Germany than Denmark.

2. The guy is not German. His parrents are Jews from Poland. His ENTIRE family was killed by the Nazis..

3. Nazism is an ideology that doesn't contain any religion in it. The Nazis did not believe in God nor any religion. The reason why they killed the Jews is MUCH more complicated.


Shekwanta... This man is a man of truth. I think you should watch some other debates, lectures or inteviews with him. The man is a LION ... I would wish we had people like him in our umta. Maybe you're just to young to understand him and his points :)
 
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