ASHOOR said:Great job!
Ashoor
WTF is this chartmrzurnaci said:Can someone translate all the Latin/English characters and words in the chart to Arabic and Swedish? I'd like to be able to make this more available for Assyrians that can't read English or Latin letters.
Kebabs?s said:**** is this chart
ASHOOR said:Zurnaci, first of all, great job on developing and constantly updating this chart.
I can do the Arabic translation if I ever get time. Can you just clarify what exactly you need translated or is it everything in the chart?
p.s: it is now a sticky so more people can see it.
mrzurnaci said:a HUGE improvement over my 3 older ones.
This puts Estrangela, Serto, and Madnkhaya writing styles into 1 chart AND teaches you how to use each style's vowel systems!
Asshur said:I have a question regarding the pronounciation of the letter ? , why do the east Assyrians pronounce it as A when there is already Alap? I draw the conclusion that the right pronunciation of the letter ? is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Voiced_pharyngeal_fricative.ogg and not A , since Aramaic is a west Semitic language it simply makes sense that it would have this kind of sound in it's letter although Syriac is a east Aramaic dialect but that doesn't change the fact it's a west semitic language.
Please quote my comment if you find anything wrong with my statement.
Yes I agree on every point but I do not agree that the pronounciation of the Sureth Alphabet was affected by Akkadian which allegedelly triggered the ? to become Kheeth and the ? to become A. It's true that Syriac is an east semitic dialect of west semitic language, but that doesn't give a proper reason to make the 'E fall of or call the letter Heth for Kheth when we already have Kap with a dot under to make it khethmrzurnaci said:if u remember, Assyrians spoke Akkadian before adopting Aramaic...
Akkadian, surprisingly, didn't have 'E and HHeth's original sound while it did have Teth and Sade...
Now just like Akkadian, Eastern Sureth dialects retain Teth and Sade but lost 'E and HHeth's original sounds...
Aramaic is West Semitic but Syriac is an Eastern/Mesopotamian dialect of Aramaic.
The loss of these sounds is likely due to our language eroding from the lack of prop standardization and the enforcing of that standardization from schools.
Asshur said:Yes I agree on every point but I do not agree that the pronounciation of the Sureth Alphabet was affected by Akkadian which allegedelly triggered the ? to become Kheeth and the ? to become A. It's true that Syriac is an east semitic dialect of west semitic language, but that doesn't give a proper reason to make the 'E fall of or call the letter Heth for Kheth when we already have Kap with a dot under to make it kheth
Asshur said:Yes I agree on every point but I do not agree that the pronounciation of the Sureth Alphabet was affected by Akkadian which allegedelly triggered the ? to become Kheeth and the ? to become A. It's true that Syriac is an east semitic dialect of west semitic language, but that doesn't give a proper reason to make the 'E fall of or call the letter Heth for Kheth when we already have Kap with a dot under to make it kheth
Nemrud said:Wow, awesome, You forgot kthobonoyo...
Are you doing This to make us learn a language we both understand? How can you make this spread?
mrzurnaci said:well you can get it printed out
also, I made one that anyone can edit so they can translate it to a different language if they need to -> http://assyrianic.deviantart.com/art/Syriac-Diagram-Chart-Editable-505516300
Nemrud said:What Do you need to translate? Thats just the alphabet, no need to translate it. Whats your goal by doing This?