Aga said:
The problem is you assyrians are gathering more kurds toward you then ever, today are only pdk and puk but tomorrow all kurds will be against you,which mean you but not you assyrians whom living here in diaspora exepect those who are living among kurds will face big problems than you can imagine, I believe this isnt good for your ppl no matter what and how, besides we are talking about turks, do not forgett genocide of armenian.
Chill, Kurd. We're not going to ally with the Turks, so you don't have to worry about your Kurdish brethren. This is just a discussion on an Internet forum, not a political meeting between top Assyrian leaders, so don't freak out on behalf of your Kurdish relatives.
riza o shourba said:
To be fair, your allies don't "care" for you. They first look after their best interests, then they'll "care" for you. If we can prove that we are in their best interest and we can offer them some lucrative options and deals, I don't see why they wont "care" about us.
They're super powers. We're literally dust compared to them. The real task of a small "nation" like ours is to be able to convince them that we do have something that we can offer them that will benifit them while at the same time, we will be rewarded greatly for it.
So think, what can we have in Nineveh that would benifit countries like China and India?
Well, yeah. But the real problem isn't convincing China/India that we could be good allies. The real problem is convincing most Assyrians that we need to lose the pacifism mentality, Christian egalitarianism, turn the other cheek concept, and become completely radical nationalist advocating militarism and everything.
Look, I don't want to start wars or anything, but if we suppose here that China and India would become our allies. You think they're going to do all the dirty work for us? Hell no. They'd give us lots of weapons and we'd have to start some regional wars and ready to fight for our territory. Once we'd get the dirty job done, they'd be leeching oil and all that from us, and we'd have their protection in return.
Ashuriena said:
I'd say ally with Israel, but many of you would probably disagree.
I think there are higher chances of hell freezing over than Assyrians and Israel becoming allies. I don't think you realise how much Jews hate us for destroying their ancient kingdom of Israel. I mean, Zionist Jews hate all goyim, and Assyrians probably the most of all.
Ashuriena said:
Israel would be a good choice. At this point, I love the idea of moving Assyrians into the Nineveh Plains because like riza oo shourba said, it would be in our best interest having one big section of Assyrians as opposed to the divided villages throughout Iraq (it makes me fear the "divide and conquer" policies we've seen in history...we're already divided by region, all it takes is someone to conquer us). We could have a police force surrounding the region creating protection for the people. Although we'd love to have a land filled with resources, but I think Israel would be a good ally because we can allow them to invest and capitalize on the lands we'll live on (the Nineveh Plains) in exchange for power and protection by a super power. It would strategically be a good place for Israel, especially with the natural resources the land has to offer .
Suppose we'd ally with Israel. They'd help us out and we'd get what we'd want, to begin with. Once that is done, they would continue to control our country with their political power and through the media (they'd buy up all the media) and the banks, advocate feminism, multiculturalism, miscegenation, marxism, capitalism, liberalism, abortion, and just about any other worthless and degenerate ideology they advocate in America and Europe in order to break down the ethnic homogeneity of white Europeans. They'd pull the exact same trick on us in a future Assyrian state.
Look, with friends like the Jews, you don't need enemies.
Not all Jews are bad of course, but politically speaking they're no good to anyone except themselves. I suggest you read up more on Jews before making any more proposals that we should ally with the Jews. Trust me, you don't want to be controlled by Zionists.
riza o shourba said:
Isreal is an interesting name for an ally. Unfortunately, it would not work for two major reasons. One, they are currently, and its been proven, heavily allied alongside Kurds and have even sent their top commanders to Kurdish territories to train their Peshmerga and other "military/police" officials.
Isreal also has invested heavily in the development of Irbil and other regions in north Iraq that are occupied by Kurdish forces.
Thats one reason.
The second you might not agree at all with or just blow it off as another Assyrian rant, but, THEY STILL DON'T LIKE ASSYRIANS!
I don't care who you ask, they still believe in the Old Testiment. Well, for those that have read it, we are portrayed as vile villians and barbarians sent out for the sole purpose of destroying Isreal. They still talk about finding the "lost tribes of Isreal" to this day refering to the Assyrian conquest and destruction of 10 of the 12 Jewish tribes.
Lets face it, they don't like us. Why else would Assyrian artifacts have been destroyed and looted right after the fall of Saddam. Why else are they constantly ignoring the phrase Assyrian and refering to us as Iraqi Christians or Kurdish Christians? Why else do they use Chaldean AND Assyrian as a means of division?
I wish we could rely on a superpower like Isreal, but their priorities are elsewhere at the moment. Our key is to tap into the NEXT great super power....China/India
Good points man. Yes, they're helping the Kurds (and the Turks) while at the same time, we're getting killed by the Kurds because the Jews have been equipping them with lots of weapons. And let's not forget that they pushed for the Iraq war through their powerful lobbies in Washington, and we all know how much Assyrians have been damaged from the Iraq war.
