"The Fire and the Light" by Glen Craney

Rita Lazar

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I'm reading this new book about the Cathars of France.  It's a novel based on actual events.  The Cathars were a Christian sect active mostly in France from the 11th to the 13th centuries. They believed Christ to be their master, but they didn't believe that he was supposed to die on the cross. They actually believed that he was crucified in order to be silenced. They also believed a lot of other little things that were different from mainstream Christianity but to me it just seemed like most differences were just in terminology; they way they aspired to be as human beings was almost the same as the Catholics. I won't get into their beliefs but you can read more here if you're interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism

The Pope thought they were dangerously heretical and there ended up being a bloody massacre that wiped them all out. There are a lot of historical secrets and mysteries revolved around Catharism.  As suggested in the book, they allegedly guarded a secret about Christ that was much more dangerous than his bloodline (which is what was sensationalized in the Da Vinci Code). This knowledge also exposed the illegitimacy of the Roman Catholic Church.

My point in bringing this up (and I DO have one), if there is so much controversy around Christ and over his teachings and his life then maybe that's the reason Assyrians were divided by the Catholic Church.  I know I'm making a big leap here, but if Aramaic is the original language of the gospels then the Assyrians have the ability to understand what was truly meant in them.  And a lot of the ideas taught in Catharism were believed to be taken from the Egyptians, Zoroastrians, Essenes, and Nasoreans, whose descendants include the Mandeans (Sabians/Subiyeen) of Iraq.  That itself is a bit of a connection.  If the Catholic Church is truly suppressing the real teachings of Christ as was suggested by the Cathars, then the Assyrians too would have to be silenced, distracted, or brainwashed to prevent the spread of this knowledge. I think a lot of this forbidden knowledge revolves around Christ's saying "the Kingdom of Heaven is within you".  That's a very potent phrase, and it's very anti-religion. 
 
Rita Lazar said:
My point in bringing this up (and I DO have one)

I was wondering for a minute if we were ever going to get to it.  :mrgreen:

To answer your question, I don't think so, if there was such a revelation that would've been lost in translation then I'm sure one of the thousands of Assyrian clergy who read the bible in the old language throughout the years would have brought this up. Furthermore, the Assyrian Church (especially since the mid-90s) is close to the Catholic Church and I doubt that our church will do anything that would take away from their credibility.

 
Salem said:
I was wondering for a minute if we were ever going to get to it.  :mrgreen:

To answer your question, I don't think so, if there was such a revelation that would've been lost in translation then I'm sure one of the thousands of Assyrian clergy who read the bible in the old language throughout the years would have brought this up. Furthermore, the Assyrian Church (especially since the mid-90s) is close to the Catholic Church and I doubt that our church will do anything that would take away from their credibility.

Hmmm.  :hmmm:  Good point.  But back then the Catholic Church was not a force to be reckoned with.  It was very powerful and constantly attempting to expand, that's why they killed all of the Cathars so viciously, because they were around for 200 years and kept growing in numbers; they were a huge threat to them.  So maybe the Assyrian clergy that did see all the discrepancies when reading the Bible just didn't want to instigate what would be a very devastating incident.

Or MAYBE the Assyrian clergy also chose to keep the secrets from being revealed, because otherwise the discord they would create among the community would also be devastating.
 
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