Shi'te or Sunni Islam: which one makes more sense to you?

ASHOOR

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You don't have to like or be a fan of Islam in order to be able to answer this question.

Which of the two branches of Islam makes more sense to you? if you had to pick the better one, which would it be?

Boy, if Iraq is an example, I am afraid neither one can be picked.

ASHOOR
 
ASHOOR said:
You don't have to like or be a fan of Islam in order to be able to answer this question.

Which of the two branches of Islam makes more sense to you? if you had to pick the better one, which would it be?

Boy, if Iraq is an example, I am afraid neither one can be picked.

ASHOOR

lol your randomness has no boundaries

Sunni's have been suppressing the shites's for hundreds of years one of my friend is a shitte and tells me many stories of the battles theyhad so I guess Shitte for me because of my friends influence.

But in the end of the day its like choosing Holden or Ford they are both crap we all know Jap?s make the best cars.
 
Senalko said:
its no hidden Fact that Sunni Islam is the more straight forward and more Tolerant, where as shia's are more radical and extreme, and they rely on more than one figure head to follow and submit to....


In IRAQ, the sunni's were always known for their Secular way of life, as far as being religious, where as the shia's are very into radical extreme way of life.....


having said that, both cancel each other out, becuase right now in iraq, the Sunni's have taken a dangerious path by uniting with the Wahabi's of Afghanistan and Saudi arabia, who are the Worst kind of islam u can ever get.... total bunch of Criminals and terrorists....

at the same time, IRAN have made iraq a living hell, iranian agents control the show in the south and they go as far as running the Government... they are what we call them as " Badriyeen "....


Before IRan's interference in iraq, shia's and sunni's lived together in most of baghdad, but the radical persians introduced the Secreterian divisions and are the cause of the majority of the crimes in baghdad.......

Muqtada al Sadr and his mahdi army are the result of IRAN's dirty work in iraq.....


There is even more, only yesterday, a new Faction of islam was born, and some 500 militiants were ready to attack Najaf and claim to liberate iraq, but thank god to the iraqi forces, they were able to destroy them quickly............

That is a very askew analysis, in my opinion.

If anything, this was the first time in history the Shi'ites have attained power.  Historically, Sunnis have always applied their power with a theocratic fist.

Before Khomeini, the Shi'ite-clergy and secular in Iran always kept a middle-ground neutrality especially since in Shi'ite Islam only the 12 imams (of Muhammad's family) are allowed to govern the people (which obviously means never), where as with Sunnis they have always imposed the caliphate-Islamic state, for the past 1400  years.  Also, the Shi'ite clergy in Najaf have historically kept religion seperate from politics (like al-Khoi).

I'm not excusing Shi'ism, because surely now its colors have shown.  But, to call the Sunnis secular, while ruling out the Shi'ites, is only half the story.  Look at Sunnis in Iraq now and tell me how 'secular' they are.

Down with both sects, but if I had to pick one, it would be Shi'ism just because I was born into it and have been exposed to some of its more pacifist circles.  But I could really care less, in the end.

As for Iran intervening and being directly responsible for this madness, are you kidding me? Are you ignoring the genocide against the Shi'ite community? What about 3 decades of Ba'athist brutality - centralized around a Sunni elitist polity - that put tens and thousands into their massgraves? You cannot honestly take the last 3 years-segment of history and say 'this is where it started' especially when day after day, suicide bombing after suicide bombing, the wahabis have clearly stated that this is a war against Kuffar.

To look at the last 3 years and delete all the numbers of suicide bombings, car bombings (that brought over 8,000 casualities, by the end of 2005), let alone 3 decades of dictatorship which discriminated against the Shi'ite community and just focus on the Shi'ite militia-linked crimes (which are vengeance attacks, despite how barbaric they are) is a very asymmetrical analysis and quite untruthful.

If you're going to dissect this conflict, then do it by looking at both sides.
 
They're both ikhre, but one cannot mix a regime with the people, I've known many Shi'a and Sunni Arabs and non-Arabs and I must say that the Shi'a people (The Persian ones mostly) are in fact more open minded and they tolerate non-Muslims more, you can't make the judgment based on what you see in Iraq and Iran because this is the work of a regime, not the work of the people, need I remind you people how Iran was before this regime? it was like Europe and the fact is the majority of Iranians don't agree with this regime.
 
Senalko said:
Irani, everything i have stated is a pure Fact, its not Fiction....I have clearly stated the facts that are happening in iraq right now since the fall of Saddam....


in showing the interference of iran and its bad infleunce on the shia's of iraq, i am not wipping out Saddam's history or the Sunni insurgency which on the other hand is inflated with the Wahabi influence of Saudi Arabia and the backing of Syria....


Iraqis are paying the price becuase of what its neighbouring countries are doing.....IRAN is supplying its militia's with weapons, it has no less than 10,000 agents inside iraq, it even have represensitives in the current iraqi government who have been given iraqi citizenships and are working directly to benifit iran....


The Brutality of the Sunni's are well documented, but one major reason why the Americans have not been able to destroy them, is becuase the current iraqi Government is full of coruption , its shia's party that rules are mainly made up of Sader supporters who couldnt care the less about a united iraq....Their religion and loyalty to iran comes first before anything else........


in my opinion, wether its sunni's or shia's, You can never have a democratic country as long as Islam rules that region......so it all comes down to religion....if u are able to eliminate it and seperate it from politics, then you have hope... but then again, thats a faint hope cuase countries like iran and iraq are hardcore religious... their problems dates for 1600 years.... its not goona change over night....

But this is all one dimension of the problem.

Who began to unleash the suicide bombings, every other day for 3 years? Who bombed the al-askari Shrine? I hate these Shi'ite militias with a passion, but at the end of the day I have to accept the fact that everything they do is in revenge for the wahabiist-al-Qaida nurtured insurgency that waged war on this country.  It started when Zarqawi's gang began targeting mosques, schools, religious (Shi'ite) holy days where thousands of pilgrims march on the streets, and much more.  That is point of origin in this conflict (and if you want to go deeper, it began with the former Ba'ath regime).

These Iranian-backed militias only found a pretext for their behavior after this nightmare started.  Before, it was much more mild and we didnt hear much(except for few cases) about Badr Brigade/Mahdi Army's atrocities.  In fact, al-Sadr was initially supporting the Sunnis very strongly (which irritated many sectarian Shi'ites).

But it is clear that al-Qaida/wahabis declared a holy war and, unfortunately, now they are receiving it.
 
Shiites has less extremists I think, but that's just like saying bowel cancer is less lethal than pancreatic cancer. But of course there are some good Shiites and Sunnis.
 
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