Sargis Aghajan
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Sarkis Aghakan is the KDP answer to the ADM. He isn't like Saddam because Saddam had power. Sarkis Aghajan is a filter for the KRG to distribute funds and look "democratic". He can be fired tomorrow if they felt like it.
Take what he gives, I say. The more Assyrians get the better. But that doesn't mean we worship him. Thank you cards should be sent to Kurdish Authorities.
Take what he gives, I say. The more Assyrians get the better. But that doesn't mean we worship him. Thank you cards should be sent to Kurdish Authorities.
sargonthedon
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Shami said:
I'd like a slice of cake :jumpy:
Jokker_Kerpitch
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Is he getting married to himself?ACANA said:Please comment. I find this picture strange. Reminds me of Saddam's time.
Free_Assyria
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OMG the disco ball
Free_Assyria
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Ok it was funny at first but now its sad and they wonder why we don?t have a country not only do we not condemn our traitors but we glorify them.
No ONE is worthy to be praised like that besides God?.
I know this is going way off topic, but reading through other threads that talk about Sarkis, i have a feeling that quit a few people in our community ( mainly in the west) that dislike him.
Can someone please tell me why there is such a negative response towards him by some? He has done nothing wrong but help out our people back home. So what if he is funded by the Kurds? Who else is going to fund our people with the amount of money that he gets from them? Perhaps zowaa is the political party that is solely for the benefits of our people, with no-kurdish ties (this can be disputed) but then again they depend solely on the funding generated by us, the supporters in the west. And honestly speaking, can we provide zowaa with equal or greater amount of funding Sarkis receives?
It?s easy for us in the west to criticize, but im sure if you?re living back there, you would take any help you can get.
Besides, have you guys noticed that the president in Iraq is a kurd, the north is dominated by the Kurds, I think its time we learn to live side-by-side with them. ADAPTION TO ENVIRONMENT=SURVIVAL! I know that they have hurt us in the past, and the past can repeat itself. But what other choice is there? At least here, with the villages, houses, schools, and churches being built with the help of Sarkis, less of our people will leave our homeland and hence maintain our identity.
I know this is going way off topic, but reading through other threads that talk about Sarkis, i have a feeling that quit a few people in our community ( mainly in the west) that dislike him.
Can someone please tell me why there is such a negative response towards him by some? He has done nothing wrong but help out our people back home. So what if he is funded by the Kurds? Who else is going to fund our people with the amount of money that he gets from them? Perhaps zowaa is the political party that is solely for the benefits of our people, with no-kurdish ties (this can be disputed) but then again they depend solely on the funding generated by us, the supporters in the west. And honestly speaking, can we provide zowaa with equal or greater amount of funding Sarkis receives?
It?s easy for us in the west to criticize, but im sure if you?re living back there, you would take any help you can get.
Besides, have you guys noticed that the president in Iraq is a kurd, the north is dominated by the Kurds, I think its time we learn to live side-by-side with them. ADAPTION TO ENVIRONMENT=SURVIVAL! I know that they have hurt us in the past, and the past can repeat itself. But what other choice is there? At least here, with the villages, houses, schools, and churches being built with the help of Sarkis, less of our people will leave our homeland and hence maintain our identity.
baklawa
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Malka_shomana said:
Malka, I have said this numerous times, but I'll repeat: there is nothing wrong with working WITH people, be they Kurds, Arabs, Turks, Aliens, etc. But not FOR them. Sarkis is simply an employee of the Kurdish government. It is his job to distribute money. He does not decide who gets it and how. He is used by the Kurds simply to undermine our political and nationalist efforts. Money is given only to those who pledge support to the KDP. Is that fair? Who gains the most out of this? Not Assyrians that's for sure. And I agree with you khon that our people should take the money, and most of them do. But fortunately many take the Kurds money with one hand, while voting for ADM with the other :wavetowel:
Yes, Zowaa gets much of its money from outside Iraq -- but at least it is funded by Assyrians for Assyrians. Whatever they have achieved has been through blood, sweat and tears. They did it on their own without compromising or selling-out.
Free_Assyria
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Can someone please tell me why there is such a negative response towards him by some?
Kurds = enemy
sarkis is a Assyrian working for the enemy
hence Sarkis is a traitor
plan and simple.
It?s easy for us in the west to criticize, but im sure if you?re living back there, you would take any help you can get.
The reason i criticize is not because of the hate for KRG or Sarkis but for the love of Zowaa, The evil work done by KRG is trying to marginlise Zowaa's hard work and dedication.
Besides, have you guys noticed that the president in Iraq is a kurd, the north is dominated by the Kurds, I think its time we learn to live side-by-side with them. ADAPTION TO ENVIRONMENT=SURVIVAL! I know that they have hurt us in the past, and the past can repeat itself. But what other choice is there? At least here, with the villages, houses, schools, and churches being built with the help of Sarkis, less of our people will leave our homeland and hence maintain our identity.
Your right so just imagine what Zowaa are going through. Just think about that for a second. Its not us that need to learn to live side by side with them rather they should learn.
Kurds = enemy
sarkis is a Assyrian working for the enemy
hence Sarkis is a traitor
plan and simple.
It?s easy for us in the west to criticize, but im sure if you?re living back there, you would take any help you can get.
The reason i criticize is not because of the hate for KRG or Sarkis but for the love of Zowaa, The evil work done by KRG is trying to marginlise Zowaa's hard work and dedication.
Besides, have you guys noticed that the president in Iraq is a kurd, the north is dominated by the Kurds, I think its time we learn to live side-by-side with them. ADAPTION TO ENVIRONMENT=SURVIVAL! I know that they have hurt us in the past, and the past can repeat itself. But what other choice is there? At least here, with the villages, houses, schools, and churches being built with the help of Sarkis, less of our people will leave our homeland and hence maintain our identity.
Your right so just imagine what Zowaa are going through. Just think about that for a second. Its not us that need to learn to live side by side with them rather they should learn.
WhosYourBaghdaddy?
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It's really getting out of hand in my opinion. I don't have anything against him personally, but giving one (any) individual so much power (as oppose to a balance of power) over our people is just suicide.
Free_Assyria
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WhosYourBaghdaddy? said:
I have many family and friends who adore this man, ive tried to make them understand but there?s no point we Assyrians never think outside the square we live in we are always looking for bandaid fixes rather then the cure.
sargonthedon
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The thing we don't believe is that he's doing it because he loves Assyrians, he has lived and worked for kurds all his life, Assyrian might be in his blood but is not in his heart!
Here's a few questions i have for Sargis:
1, He has been in the kurdish regional government (as deputy prime minister i think) since 1991, what had he done for Assyrians (since he loves us so much) from 1991 - 2005?
2, Why in 2005 was he so against an Assyrian Administrative Region but all of a sudden decided it was a good idea but only under kurdish rule?
3, How would the ARG be better off under kurdish rule where they will have to get authority from the KRG for any projects and funding rather than go directly to Baghdad which is what the kurds will have to do anyway?
How do you think he would answer these questions?
I have an idea, what about you guys?
Here's a few questions i have for Sargis:
1, He has been in the kurdish regional government (as deputy prime minister i think) since 1991, what had he done for Assyrians (since he loves us so much) from 1991 - 2005?
2, Why in 2005 was he so against an Assyrian Administrative Region but all of a sudden decided it was a good idea but only under kurdish rule?
3, How would the ARG be better off under kurdish rule where they will have to get authority from the KRG for any projects and funding rather than go directly to Baghdad which is what the kurds will have to do anyway?
How do you think he would answer these questions?
I have an idea, what about you guys?
You guys know nothing what is going on back home, simple and easy questions:
-Do you know how many Zawaa?s top mans have granted houses from Mr. Sargis that you are against his work for our people?
- Do you know that Zawaa Leadership never had complained Officially to the RKG for what you think in the Petition?
- Do you know that Zawaa Officially granted sums of money from the Budget of RKG, that is mean zawaa has no problems?
- Do you know that Zawaa since 1992 ? 2003 had 4 members in Kurdish Parliament, and we never heard officially demonstrated for any inconvenience circumnesatnces against the Kurdish Government?
- Do you know that Zawaa was member in the KURDISH FRONT, from 1991-1999?
- Do you know that, if you want your Land Assyria back to you, I, YOU and WE, must return willingly and sitting on our Land, then the Kurds will not take any chance to occupy our Land, if so we have to confront them as a ?Enemy? or as Friends then we could sit together and enjoy the Life together.
Think, think before you sign anything that comes from Internet Heroes.
-Do you know how many Zawaa?s top mans have granted houses from Mr. Sargis that you are against his work for our people?
- Do you know that Zawaa Leadership never had complained Officially to the RKG for what you think in the Petition?
- Do you know that Zawaa Officially granted sums of money from the Budget of RKG, that is mean zawaa has no problems?
- Do you know that Zawaa since 1992 ? 2003 had 4 members in Kurdish Parliament, and we never heard officially demonstrated for any inconvenience circumnesatnces against the Kurdish Government?
- Do you know that Zawaa was member in the KURDISH FRONT, from 1991-1999?
- Do you know that, if you want your Land Assyria back to you, I, YOU and WE, must return willingly and sitting on our Land, then the Kurds will not take any chance to occupy our Land, if so we have to confront them as a ?Enemy? or as Friends then we could sit together and enjoy the Life together.
Think, think before you sign anything that comes from Internet Heroes.
Jokker_Kerpitch
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I do know its Zowaa not ZAWAA. Sorry I hate when people say Zawaaashoraya said:
Let me begin by saying Hello.
All the things you have so neatly outlined are pretty good arguments. But these things have been brought up many times; I know this since I argue about this issue all the time. The things most Assyrians have trouble comprehending are the differences between working with someone than working for someone.
We all know that Zowaa has on many occasions worked with the Kurds. So you must be wondering, why is it such a big deal that Sargis Aghajan works for the Kurds? Well that puts him under the Kurds, working for that is. Meaning at any moment he can be fired or ordered to do something that is not in the best interest of an Assyrian man. When working for KDP you take an oath: basically that you will up hold the best interests of Kurdistan. So how can this man be doing so many good things for Assyrians? Well all I can say is his Kurdish superiors are making sure he keeps Assyrians happy: to make it look like that we?re being taken care of. Most likely the reason as to why there are so many churches being built where there is no running water or electricity. Money is being thrown around instead of being put in an organized effort: some houses over here, some over there, and churches all over the place. Don't expect this to keep up.
Remember, this is money he has to spend on us. Nothing very special in what he?s doing?. He?s just doing his job. And judging from the pictures, he?s very good at doing his job?.
Remember this?.. Zowaa DOES NOT WORK FOR THE KURDS. Their paycheck does not say from the KDP.
They are our only hope and only representatives?.. No one else can say the Assyrians are at the top of their agenda.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with accepting funds supplied through him, the problem lies in the way it is implemented, and publicised. First of all, if we want to be treated as regular citizens, (not third or fourth level) then we should learn to accept and expect it. Whether this money is funded by the US or the KRG (via Iraq) we are entitled to it as citizens of this country. So a special "Christian committee", funded by Aghajan, didn't need to be set up to make our people feel like they were accepting charity. Also, we should question why Aghajan is made into a National hero out of nowhere. It is clear that he is the KDP's next chosen leader for our nation. I think it is likely that he will be running for upcoming elections. But not to worry, people gained by zewanta will be easily gained back!
