Rudaw Article - Assyrian official: Iraqi state failed to protect us

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http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/201220142

By Khalid Hussein

MOSCOW, Russia ? A leading member of the Assyrian community in Iraq says the failure of the Iraqi government to protect Christians has led to the mass migration of the religious minority out of the country or to the northern parts of Iraq controlled by Kurdish Peshmarga forces.

?We are worried for our future,? says Ashour Givargis, head of the Assyrian Movement in Iraq. ?We have no trust in the ruling establishment in Baghdad to protect our rights.?

According to the last Iraqi census, in 1987, 1.4 million Christians lived in Iraq, including the Assyrian community, although many left the country during the 1990s when severe economic sanctions were imposed on Iraq.

Other native Assyrian communities can be found just outside Iraq's borders in northeast Syria, southeast Turkey and northwest Iran. According to UN human rights organizations, between 2 and 3 million Assyrians live in these countries. 

?We have a right to an independent entity, like other nations,? says Givargis. ?We trust international treaties more than the will of the Iraqi state to grant us our rights,? he adds.

Most of the Iraqi Assyrians are now part of the 1.3 million refugees in Kurdistan Region, although there are no official numbers. 

The Christian community in Kurdistan has largely been guaranteed some national rights including the right of education in their native language and forming political associations. Unlike in Baghdad and Mosul where Christian sites and churches are regularly targeted, which has led to the mass exodus, no such attacks have been recorded in Kurdistan Region.

But the Christians remain a vulnerable group even in Kurdistan where the majority of people identify with the Sunni branch of Islam, although more tolerant than in the rest of the Sunni world. 

?I have seen good actions from Kurdish authorities regarding the Christians,? says Olle Fomin, who is a Russian activist monitoring the condition of the Assyrians in the region and who travelled to Erbil recently. ?But indeed even there Christians complained about lack of full protection,? he adds.

Kurdish authorities have ratified a law that makes it difficult for non-Christians to own property in Christian neighbourhoods in order to protect their communities from further disintegration.  Neighbourhoods like Ainkawa in the suburb of Erbil, for instance, is a such district which recently turned into a hub for Christian refugees embracing thousands of families.

Mr. Zurnaci's Comment: WTF? There's a law that disallows non-Christians from owning property in Christian neighborhoods? Can anyone confirm if that's true or not? Is it even enforced?
 
It was actually by the Assyrian Democratic Movement, by Federal law (Through-out Iraq) It is illegal to purchase Assyrian Christian lands/homes.
 
I am not sure, but if it is as you guys says, that christian cant buy land in their cities like Ainkawa? it would mean they are openly wiping us out, but  I have heard when it comes aobut KRG , they have law, which includ all kinda people no matter which religion or class you are, you cant a buy a stratetigic land if you wont cant afford to build as the masterplan of the city requiries, this actully makes alot of Chaldeans and Assyrians wont affortod build, and they force to sell either to the people who can or to the Government of KRG...
 
Khananisho2014 said:
I am not sure, but if it is as you guys says, that christian cant buy land in their cities like Ainkawa? it would mean they are openly wiping us out, but  I have heard when it comes aobut KRG , they have law, which includ all kinda people no matter which religion or class you are, you cant a buy a stratetigic land if you wont cant afford to build as the masterplan of the city requiries, this actully makes alot of Chaldeans and Assyrians wont affortod build, and they force to sell either to the people who can or to the Government of KRG...

I think you're misunderstanding... NON-CHRISTIANS CANNOT BUY PROPERTY IN ASSYRIAN CHRISTIAN NEIGHBORHOODS. Get it?

Also, since it seems to be true, I'm convinced the Kurds are our ace in the hole for our best survival.
 
mrzurnaci said:
I think you're misunderstanding... NON-CHRISTIANS CANNOT BUY PROPERTY IN ASSYRIAN CHRISTIAN NEIGHBORHOODS. Get it?

Also, since it seems to be true, I'm convinced the Kurds are our ace in the hole for our best survival.

WHAT

Why aren't they?!
 
mrzurnaci said:
I think you're misunderstanding... NON-CHRISTIANS CANNOT BUY PROPERTY IN ASSYRIAN CHRISTIAN NEIGHBORHOODS. Get it?

Also, since it seems to be true, I'm convinced the Kurds are our ace in the hole for our best survival.

Thats better than what I expected, but which government having this? the Iraqi one or the Kurdish?

I agree with reggarding us to survive with Kurdish land than Iraqi.
 
You can read my comment on this report (page -4) as follows :


Ashur Giwargis | 20/12/2014
My sayings are used here for the kurdish interests. This interview was taken in my press conference about "ISIS" in 28/11/2014 where I said that kurds are supporting ISIS according to many kurdish media sources, and that we do not trust "all" the political trends ruling Iraq, especially the kurds who are occupying our lands. Next time no interviews with kurdish media but live on air. Ashur Giwargis - Beirut (not Iraq) .

See picture :

 
A.G said:
You can read my comment on this report (page -4) as follows :


Ashur Giwargis | 20/12/2014
My sayings are used here for the kurdish interests. This interview was taken in my press conference about "ISIS" in 28/11/2014 where I said that kurds are supporting ISIS according to many kurdish media sources, and that we do not trust "all" the political trends ruling Iraq, especially the kurds who are occupying our lands. Next time no interviews with kurdish media but live on air. Ashur Giwargis - Beirut (not Iraq) .

See picture :

Dear A.G, my interets first of all our  nation`s interets, I dont care who they are and what they are, as long we get our rights. Reggardin the Kurds were helping ISiS , its just laughable or at leats doesnt make sense, especially when it comes about KDP, for several reasons.


one and the main one
1. Is Ezidis regions, 80% eizidis votes went to KDP, and after what had happened KDP will loose alot of KDP votes to either other Kurdish or to PKK, right now very famous among ezidis.
2. KRG and KDP saw ezidis region as their own, and they would even help KDP to get alot of votes in both Iraq and in Kurdistan in future.

so even when it comes about shabaks and chirstians the Kurds espeically KDP had their votes among  us. So why on earth would KDP or KRG help ISIS to destry for themselves, especially for KDP?

I dont get your point..

Right now even if Peshermga take back ezidis region the ezidis, misstrust KDP for not protecting their people and there is a big chance that KDP will lose votes among ezidis in future? so I dont get exactly how do u mean..







 
A.G said:
There are many reports about the kurdish collaboration with ISIS. What you said is not important for kurds when they want to change the demography of their surroundings.

This is a kurdish media source, not Assyrian :

http://kurdistantribune.com/2014/kdp-puk-leaders-accused-of-oil-gas-trading-isis-enemy/

There are also other reports from "Daily Mirror", "The independent" .. but I can't finds them now.

A.G

Wait a minute, why would Kurds want to further change Demography when they're close to independence? Doing so is a very risky move on their part...
 
mrzurnaci said:
Wait a minute, why would Kurds want to further change Demography when they're close to independence? Doing so is a very risky move on their part...

On the contrary, they have the soldiers to protect themselves and by changing the demography they can more easily conquer the disputed territories
 
Assyrian_Man said:
On the contrary, they have the soldiers to protect themselves and by changing the demography they can more easily conquer the disputed territories

I know that but what's the point in going to the trouble of attempting to take MORE disputed territories when they've already taken the ones they cared most about aka Kirkuk.
 
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