Right of Self Determination

[Bronit Omta]

The Assyrian people are currently apart of the Unrepresented Nations and People's Organisation and could be eligible for sovereignty under numerous UN charters and treaties. How so could our people work for a state? Would you accept an Assyrian semi-autonomous province as part of Iraq or a fully independent nation?

My opinion is that we must work alongside Iraqi Kurdistan to achieve our goals. They want a state, so do we. We can work for the best of the advantage of both our states.

 

[Cascade]

And how many Assyrians are living in the homeland?

We are too dispersed to have our own country there. As far as we can go, maybe we can have an autonomous state.

 

[Assyrian Nationalist]

And how many Assyrians are living in the homeland?

We are too dispersed to have our own country there. As far as we can go, maybe we can have an autonomous state.

If you want to add Syria and Iraq, 700 000 but it's been decreasing since 2003.

 

[mrzurnaci]

The Assyrian people are currently apart of the Unrepresented Nations and People's Organisation and could be eligible for sovereignty under numerous UN charters and treaties. How so could our people work for a state? Would you accept an Assyrian semi-autonomous province as part of Iraq or a fully independent nation?

My opinion is that we must work alongside Iraqi Kurdistan to achieve our goals. They want a state, so do we. We can work for the best of the advantage of both our states.

I think we should start off small and build up by having an autonomous place.

Our autonomy will show if we are truly ready for independence or not.

 

[Cascade]

If you want to add Syria and Iraq, 700 000 but it's been decreasing since 2003.

These numbers date from the mid-2000s. It's much less than 700K now. The population is probably around 200K today.

 

[Assyrian Nationalist]

Assyrians in the west need to have a higher fertility rate, including taking them to Assyrian private schools.

 

[Bronit Omta]

Even if we took up autonomy in a small town it wouldn't matter! As long as we have recognised autonomy in a region we can then increase our likelihood of claiming more land. Don't forget that Assyrians constituted a plurality in the Nineveh plains before the ISIL occupation. There are regions in Iraq and Syria that are majority Assyrian and have a heavy population. Once we get autonomy you will see  ALOT of Assyrians go back to Iraq and Syria. So long as we claim autonomy before the next generation passes.

 

[mrzurnaci]

Even if we took up autonomy in a small town it wouldn't matter! As long as we have recognised autonomy in a region we can then increase our likelihood of claiming more land. Don't forget that Assyrians constituted a plurality in the Nineveh plains before the ISIL occupation. There are regions in Iraq and Syria that are majority Assyrian and have a heavy population. Once we get autonomy you will see  ALOT of Assyrians go back to Iraq and Syria. So long as we claim autonomy before the next generation passes.

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[Q9786]

Even if we took up autonomy in a small town it wouldn't matter! As long as we have recognised autonomy in a region we can then increase our likelihood of claiming more land. Don't forget that Assyrians constituted a plurality in the Nineveh plains before the ISIL occupation. There are regions in Iraq and Syria that are majority Assyrian and have a heavy population. Once we get autonomy you will see  ALOT of Assyrians go back to Iraq and Syria. So long as we claim autonomy before the next generation passes.

The Assyrians in Iraq need to become much more united than they have been. I believe that they r now but it took massacres to do it. They also need to stop listening to priests that know nothing of war and like it or not they r in one. The Assyrians blew an opportunity to have a military unit back when U.S. Was there. Now is an appropriate time again to make such a move.

As far as politics between the Shia and Kurds well let me explain it this way. America is a giant bureaucracy that deals with serious geopolitics. Notice how Kurds still have light weapons. America doesn't arm them cuz they r not sovereign nation and would piss off Iraq and turkey. Ah turkey the naoto ally we despise yet retain. Y? Simple. To cage the bear. Greece and turkey didn't join nato back in the fifties at the same time by coincidence. Crimea is Russia's ONLY warm water port accessible year round and even then it's hemmed inside the Black Sea blocked by u guessed it.

If Assyrians in Iraq want to have an autonomous region then they need to quit the tribal squabbles and start putting up some national unity. Also like it or not the Shia Iraqis control the ports. Which is y the Kurds don't have the balls to outright declare independence. No heavy weapons and no way to sell their oil.

If Iraqi Assyrians r smart they will stick to the program demand npu get proper funding via US dollars which if approved by Iraqi parliament we gladly would do. However Iraqi Shia reluctant cuz well they r not stupid. They let u have heavy weapons and then u don't give them back then they lose bartering power over the region and the two trillion dollars of oil under nineveh plains feet. No that wasn't an exaggerated number.
Iraqi Assyrians need to get a military unit and police force and get along with the Shia so they feel confident u won't join the Kurds in some revolution then get an American oil company to come in and pump out the oil and get billions flowin in for infrastructure and more weapons. Then branch out into being able to produce products to export. Be anything. Basically generate an actual economy then you may get ur own country.