Mother of octuplets is Assyrian?

baklawa

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God, I hope not.  For those who have not heard, a lady by the name of Nadya Suleman just gave birth to octuplets.  She already had 6 children, all from in-vitro fertilization.  She is not married and lives with her parents.  Her mother described her as being "obsessed" with being pregnant and having children. 

This has been the topic on the news for a while now with people discussing the ethical dilemma of impregnating a woman with clear psychological issues.  Ms. Suleman is now seeking book/television deals in order to help support her 14 kids (her parents filed for bankruptcy and her dad is now in Iraq working as a translator.) 


Report: Octuplets Mom Wants $2 Million to Tell Her Story

BELLFLOWER -- The mother of the octuplets born a week ago is apparently hoping to cash in by selling her story.

On Friday, 33-year-old Nadya Suleman retained the Killeen Futney Group public relations firm to handle the offers for book deals, TV shows and other opportunities that the firm claims are pouring in.

Now, the British Newspaper 'The Telegraph' said Suleman wants to get $2 million from whoever interviews her first. The newspaper also said she wants to get help from a corporate sponsor, such as a diaper company.

Suleman also wants to launch a new career as a television child care expert, The Telegraph reported.

The mother of 14 graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child and adolescent development, school officials said. She returned to pursue a master's in counseling, but last attended in the spring of 2008.

Kileen said Suleman is "the most sought after mom in the world right now," but that she hasn't decided what she'll do next, other than care for her children.

The octuplets were delivered last Monday by caesarian section at Kaiser Permanente Hospital in Whittier 9 1/2 weeks early. The babies ranged in weight from 1 pound, 8 ounces to 3 pounds, 4 ounces.

They are expected to remain hospitalized for several weeks and could face serious developmental delays because of their small size. Their mother could be allowed to return home in a few days.

Just a few days ago, Nadya Suleman's mother made headlines when she said her daughter was "obsessed with children" and wanted "just one more girl."

That is why, even with six young children, including 2-year-old twins, she decided to have more embryos transferred in hopes, her mother said Friday, of getting "just one more girl."

"And look what happened. Octuplets. Dear God," Angela Suleman said four days after her daughter gave birth to the eight babies.

Suleman stressed that her daughter "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself."

Angela Suleman said all the children are from the same sperm donor, but she did not identify him. Her daughter is divorced, but Suleman said the ex-husband was not the father.

Suleman said she is caring for her six grandchildren while their mother is in the hospital recovering. She said she had few details about how the octuplets were conceived and did not know the identity of the doctor or the clinic that transferred the frozen embryos into her daughter's uterus. Suleman said it was not Kaiser Permanente, where the babies were born.

Fertility experts have raised concerns about the number of embryos implanted and whether the procedure was within medical guidelines.

"I cannot see circumstances where any reasonable physician would transfer [so many] embryos into a woman under the age of 35 under any circumstance," said Arthur Wisot, a fertility doctor in Redondo Beach and the author of "Conceptions and Misconceptions."

Doctors probably could not deny treatment to a woman simply because she already has children, he said. However, he added, they should have taken steps to make sure she did not have so many babies at once.

Nadya and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family.

Court records show the woman's mother Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors' meeting, the case was dismissed.

She also reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns in Whittier.

Suleman said Friday that she had withdrawn the filing and paid her debts.

As the media camped outside the house, Angela Suleman said in a telephone interview that she could not explain her daughter's decision.

Nadya Suleman has always loved children, her mother said. Then she sighed. "I wish she would have become a kindergarten teacher."

"It's going to be difficult," she said, adding that her daughter's father is going back to his native Iraq, where neighbors said he works as a contractor, to help support the family.

He told reporters that he is a former Iraqi military man.


Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center physician Harold Henry has confirmed that the mother came there after she was pregnant and was counseled, but chose not to selectively abort some of the fetuses.

"What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed," Suleman said. "That is a very painful thing."

In a statement read by Dr. Karen Maples on Thursday evening, the mother said she understands people are curious and in the future will share details about what she termed a "miraculous experience."

"The babies continue to grow strong every day and make good progress. My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals.

Needless to say, the eighth was a surprise to us all, but a blessing as well," the statement went on to say.

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So what do you think?  Should this woman be able to have as many children as she wants, or should there be limits?
 
Come on, it's ridiculous, but we're not going to resort to Chinese tactics. 

Not that I disagree with limiting the number of babies, or else you don't get the full coverage from the government... but do you put a number on it?
 
Satmawa 14 kids.

I thought wanting 4 was a lot.

We would have known about her if she was Assyrian. Her reputation would have been in tatters.
 
Ok, apparently one of her original 6 kids is autistic.  My boss has one child and he's autistic and I can tell you that caring for that just one child takes up ALL of their time.  I can't imagine caring for a special needs child along with 13 others all by myself with a mother who looks like she's worn out:

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible, and I didn't want to throw her out."
 
peachy said:
We would have known about her if she was Assyrian. Her reputation would have been in tatters.

I thought that too.  Maybe her dad might be?  The article mentioned he's in his "native Iraq" doing translation.  Jareh, with a home full of 14 screaming kids I bet he'd rather stay in a war zone!
 
peachy said:
Really? I thought american government didnt hand out payments.

It's certainly not easy, and I bet they are going to have a look over this woman's case due to the all the publicity.  The cost of delivery alone for all those kids is astronomical.  This woman does not work and her mother (whom she lives with) filed for bankruptcy.  That's what's gotten most of the callers to these news shoes and the commentaries so riled up, that she's doing this on taxpayer's dime.
 
jonadona said:
I'm pretty sure we give out more money than most government...  People just don't talk about it. :)

In total yes because you have a bigger population than most countries that do  :bangin:

We still have the best welfare system.
 
peachy said:
In total yes because you have a bigger population than most countries that do  :bangin:

We still have the best welfare system.

It will eventually go bankrupt because people will abuse it.  Unless they start limiting population. 
 
jonadona said:
It will eventually go bankrupt because people will abuse it.  Unless they start limiting population. 

Our system circulates, it'll never reach its point of bankruptcy. Too many taxes to collect.
 
jonadona said:
Never say never.  Taxes pay for everything. 

It would have been in a deep crisis by now. In fact, the government will transfer another $1000 to every eligible child and student's account, in Australia.
 
Repopulating the Assyrian nation one woman at a time! Hahahaha.

Sorry, I didn't read the article... :lol:
 
TreasurE_GirL said:
It would have been in a deep crisis by now. In fact, the government will transfer another $1000 to every eligible child and student's account, in Australia.

Just wait.  How many people you have on that continent?  Just wait. 
 
she had 6 already
something isn't NORMAL here. :ROFLMAO:
the doctors should be shot for implanting that many embryo's deliberately!!
this isnn't going to end here that's for sure!
 
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I think the father at least is Assyrian.  Jareh, he is NOT happy!

This was this the topic on Larry King last night and apparently Nadya's demands for money and freebies have turned off corporate charities.  Normally they give families of multiples things like diapers, wipes, etc., but they don't seem willing to give to her.



The case of the Suleman octuplets is now sending shockwaves through the medical fertility community. Few reputable doctors can understand how a healthy mother-of-six could have been allowed to have fertility treatment that resulted in octuplets without serious questions arising about the mother's mental health, her capacity to raise such a large family or the huge medical dangers involved in giving birth to so many babies at once.

The family has now taken refuge behind the curtains of its modest three-bedroom suburban home in Whittier, a town near Los Angeles. Usually in these situations, the proud parents parade before the cameras, appear on talk shows and land lucrative sponsorship deals with baby-products firms.

But when Nadya Suleman's father, Edward, briefly emerged, he did not appear full of the joys of enlarging his family with more grandchildren. "I wish it happens to you people, so you go through hell," he snapped at the media throng as he unloaded bags of shopping from his car. It was later revealed that Edward was considering going back to his native Iraq - where he has worked as a contractor - in order to raise some cash for the family. As the bidding war begins for Suleman's story, the quickest and most likely route to financial security is likely to be a publishing contract.

The money seems to be desperately needed. Details of the family's finances suggest that the Sulemans are already struggling with the load of looking after six children and are ill-prepared for the arrival of eight more.

Court records in nearby San Bernardino show that Suleman's mother filed for bankruptcy last year, claiming $1m in liabilities as a result of a bad housing investment. At the same time, the records hint at an unusual personal history for the family. They show that Suleman - who changed her name from Nadya Doud in 2001 - divorced her husband, Marcos Guti?rrez, a year ago. Guti?rrez, however, may not be the father of her first six children, because the divorce filing indicates no children were produced from the marriage.

In fact, birth certificates name one "David Solomon" as the father of her eldest four children. It also seems that Suleman had been living with her parents, not her husband, for the past eight years, at a variety of addresses. However, her own parents, who still live together, are also divorced, having legally separated in Las Vegas in 1999.
 
peachy said:
Ay hawar.

They are Assyrian. Stimlan go nasheh  :lol:

I usually hate when the few news reports we get refer to us as "Iraqi Christians" but I hope that's how this family is described.  This is the one time I wouldn't mind if they didn't mention "Assyrian."  It's been getting so much negative press here, having them identified as Assyrian would just be horrific!
 
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