Mongolian script derrived from syriac script

[Rumtaya]

The classical Mongolian script was the first of many writing systems created for the Mongolian language. With only minor modification, it is used in Inner Mongolia in China to this day to write Mongolian and the Evenk language.

The script was created by the Uyghur scribe, Tatar-Tonga. He had been captured by the Mongols during a war against the Naimans around 1204, and Genghis Khan then ordered him to create a writing system for the Mongolian language. He did so by adapting the Uyghur alphabet, a descendant of the Syriac alphabet :shades:, via Sogdian. Its most salient feature is its vertical direction. It is one of the few vertical scripts written from left to right. Most other vertical writing systems are written right to left, but the medieval Uyghur alphabet and its descendants?the Mongolian, the Oirat Clear, the Manchu, and the Buryat alphabets--proceed from left to right. This is because the Uyghurs rotated their script 90 degrees counterclockwise to emulate the Chinese writing system.[citation needed]

In 1587, Ayuush G??sh (Аюуш гүүш) devised a number of extra characters to transcribe the sounds of foreign languages like Tibetan, Chinese, and Sanskrit. This extension is known under the name Ali-Gali (Али-гали).

 

[Free_Assyria]

wow thats interesting, i read some where that Kurds had links to Mongolians not sure if this is true.

 

[Tambur]

wow thats interesting, i read some where that Kurds had links to Mongolians not sure if this is true.

Turks have links to the Mongols, they are not Mongols but they come from the same region and they are related.

The Kurds on the other hand are probably a mix of Iranian/Caucasian tribes.

 

[KhIgGaAaAaAa]

Assyrians got mongolian in them too, us modern day Assyrians that is. 

the ACOE patriarch in 1281 a.d. was a mongolian guy so yea we have a mix of mongolian as well.

 

[Tambur]

Assyrians got mongolian in them too, us modern day Assyrians that is. 

the ACOE patriarch in 1281 a.d. was a mongolian guy so yea we have a mix of mongolian as well.

The patriarch you're talking about (Mar Yaballaha Bar Turkaya) was an Uyghur Turk.

 

[KhIgGaAaAaAa]

I dunno, in the stuff i've read they called him a "Mongol"

 

[Tambur]

So he was Nestorian, not Assyrian. Right?

Nestorian is not the proper term, but yes, he was a patriarch for the church of the east from a non-Assytian background.

 

[Tambur]

is Nestorian not the proper term because this patriarch was appointed prior to the schism?

Nestorian is not proper because not once have we ever called each other Nestorayeh, Jacobite is another non-proper title because Western Assyrians also never called themselves Yacoboyeh. These were titles given by the enemies of our churches, we never used these titles, they were used on us.

This patriarch was part of the church of the east, and as far as his ethnic background goes his title says it all, he was a Turkaya.

 

[Tambur]

You welcome

 

[KhIgGaAaAaAa]

The Church enjoyed alternate periods of rest and persecution after the move of the caliphate to Baghdad from Damascus in 752 AD. In around 780, the seat of the patriarch moved to Baghdad, the new capital of the Islamic empire, from Seleucia-Ctesiphon. The monks and clergy of the Assyrian Church served the royal court in the capacities of the court physicians and scribes. Many of the Greek works of philosophy were translated into Arabic by these Nestorian scholars; these works later were translated into Latin and found their way again into the West.
Before the end of the first Christian millennium, the Church of the East counted some 25 metropolitan sees and over 300 episcopal sees in all of the Near and Far East. The Church enjoyed a catholicity in which Assyrians, Turks, Mongols, Uigers, Arabs, Indians and Chinese were members of this glorious institution.


With the capture of Baghdad in 1258 by Hulagu Khan and the end of the Arab Muslim caliphate, the Christians of the royal city and the East in general enjoyed a period of rest and calm from persecution. The Christians hailed the entrance of the troops of Hulagu and his devoutly-Christian wife Tokuz Khatoun in the former capital of the caliphate as the dawn of a new age for Christendom. This royal couple was seen as the new ?Constantine and Helen? for the Christians living under Mongol rule. Countless monks, priests and deacons were to be found among the Mongol Christians, not to mention the tens of episcopal and metropolitan sees. In fact, in 1281 a Mongol monk Yahwalaha (?God has given?) was elected to the highest ecclesiastical office of the Assyrian Church.

taken from assyrianchurch.com.au

whatever he was, he wasn't ethnic Assyrian.

 

[Tambur]

They were Turks mixed with Mongols.

http://www.nestorian.org/bar_sauma.html

Brief Biography: Bar Sauma, born in Tai-tu (Northern China) about 1260, was a descendant of the Onggud Turks who joined the Mongols early in the reign of Chinggis Khan. Like other Onggud Turks, his family were members of the Nestorian church, the most active Christian church in Central Asia. By the age of twenty-five, Sauma had taken vows to become a Nestorian monk and built a cell to meditate in isolation. Able to read Syraic, Turkic, and possibly Chinese, he was well-educated as well as pious. Fired by a zeal to visit Nestorian monuments in the Middle East and Jerusalem, Sauma and his student Markos, later to become the patriarch and leader of the Nestorian church centered in Baghdad, set out on their arduous pilgrimage sometime before 1278. They reached the Mongol territories in Persia, but were unable to continue their journey to Jerusalem because of the political situation. Instead Sauma eventually found himself appointed to a diplomatic mission which would take him to Constantinople, Genoa, Paris, Bordeaux, and Rome and which would involve negotiations for joint operations to force the Mamluks of Egypt out of the Holy Land. He died in Baghdad in 1313 without reaching Jerusalem.

His real name is Markos (Before being a patriarch).