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Is it just me or does it seem like the 2 forums have gotten MUCH MORE nastier than they have ever been? I just went into the Meso Forum to see what new news there was and I couldn't believe the mud-slinging going on in there. Its actually embarrassing to see the stuff being written there by some of the people. There is one person in particular whose online name is "Doozota" who particularly struck me with his tone.

I remember up until recently he used to write at the bottom of his messages "Death to the Patriarch. Death to [Something else]." I noticed it was gone this time - I wonder if he finally realized that such language can result in a knock on the door by your friendly neighborhood federal agents.

Anyway, just thought I would share.
 
Ahh dont worry about Dozoota haha, he's just some nobody that spends 23 hours of his day on paltalk talking nothing but trash, him and that other guy that runs the so called "Assyrian for Justice" show, I forgot his name but they're clowns.
 
AssyrianLawyer said:
Is it just me or does it seem like the 2 forums have gotten MUCH MORE nastier than they have ever been? I just went into the Meso Forum to see what new news there was and I couldn't believe the mud-slinging going on in there. Its actually embarrassing to see the stuff being written there by some of the people. There is one person in particular whose online name is "Doozota" who particularly struck me with his tone.

I remember up until recently he used to write at the bottom of his messages "Death to the Patriarch. Death to [Something else]." I noticed it was gone this time - I wonder if he finally realized that such language can result in a knock on the door by your friendly neighborhood federal agents.

Anyway, just thought I would share.
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Actually he used to write "Death to traitors of the Assyrian nation and Death to Kurdistan in Occupied Assyria".  If you have seen him write death to the Patriarch, please post the link. 

Is wishing death upon someone a crime?
 
The posts may have been removed, but I have definitely seen him end his posts with "Death to the Patriarch" as recent as October. Stating that you wish death upon someone may be regarded under the law as "fighting words." Granted the doctrine is not often used, but nevertheless it exists. Furthermore, law enforcement and, depending on the context and target, the FBI don't look too kindly upon such strong phrases and may investigate.

Half the stuff that comes out of his mouth is trash anyway. He sounds very low-class to me.
 
I cannot handle reading anything on that forum anymore.  I spent 99% of the time covering my poor eyes so I just had to stop going there.  It's really not good for one's soul to read so much hatred and lashing out at our own people.  It's sad.  For whatever reason they do it, whatever the motive, its just wrong both morally and probably legally too.  He should not get away with that.
 
Its quite disgusting and embarrassing both forums are ekhreh.
some of you may know where i stand in regards to that issue
i have family and friends on both sides i refuse to fight my own brothers and sisters just because they belong to a certain church or support a certain bishop ive had enough and im tired of trying to talk sense into people i seriously with all my heart do not give a 5hit anymore let them kill each other. Reason i say that is because i was naive enough to think that once this court case was over i thought we would start repairing burnt bridges.  :bangin:

I love acoe in the end of the day its where i belong i don't care what people say,it was my grand parents church  :) . But i will not, can not join a holly war against my own, some might say that i am a traitor to acoe but i don't care thats your opinion.


:drunk: to the separation of Church and State.

Wow 2 years and i've said God it feels good.  :wavetowel:


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Tambur & AssyrianLawyer:

I'm definitely not defending, nor condoning his actions.  I was simply stating that I had never seen that statement on the end of his posts(and was curious to see that statement).  As far as what he says on PalTalk, I wouldn't know because I don't get involved in that. 

AL, you might want to teach him a few things, from my understanding he is or was a paralegal in Canada.  :shades:
 
I felt like I was in the middle ages for a second.  Wow.  Talk about people who are brain-washed.  Conspiracy theories were the best.
 
Ashur,

Its cool, I know you weren't condoning his behavior. Of course, he's not the only one who behaves this way. There are others in that forum and in Bet-Nahrain who like nothing more than stirring shit up. When things are calm and people are engaging in adult intelligent conversations, you never hear from these people. However as soon as someone brings up a controversial topic they all jump back on the bandwagon. Any attempts to be neutral or to point out their extremism gets met with ridicule. Obviously I have nothing against being nationalistic, but there is a clear difference between being nationalistic in the sense of advocating collective goals for your people and being nationalistic in the sense of not tolerating any opposing views and ostracizing those who do hold views different from your own. The latter view is not being a nationalist really - its called being ignorant and tyrannical.

Anyway, sorry for getting on a soapbox about this, but its sad to see Assyrians fighting amongst each other to such a vicious degree. Imagine if all that energy was actually directed toward a concrete goal that produced beneficial results? We'd all be in a much happier place.
 
After only reading the postings on the aforementioned forums for the past couple of years, its SO refreshing being in here and getting involved in intelligent conversations and without all the nastiness. This reminds me back when I was in undergrad when we had a Assyrian forum and all we discussed was politics. Conversations were civil and many of us became good friends offline.
 
visit this site for all doozoota's threats and swearing on our beloved H.H Mar Dinkha and other bishops.
www.shrara4u.com
 
ashoraya said:
visit this site for all doozoota's threats and swearing on our beloved H.H Mar Dinkha and other bishops.
www.shrara4u.com
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Someone once said a priest runs this blatantly politically charged website, which I did not believe, since HH Mar Dinkha has continuously told his parish and his priests/Bishops they are not allowed to engage in politics.

It's not true, right?
 
waleeta said:
Someone once said a priest runs this blatantly politically charged website, which I did not believe, since HH Mar Dinkha has continuously told his parish and his priests/Bishops they are not allowed to engage in politics.

It's not true, right?
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Actually it is true.  It is run by a twice suspended priest who has been accused of child molestation.  This "priest" happens to be the brother of our very own, very beloved Nimrod Baito of the APP. 

Oh yeah, is it worth mentioning that his priest was REINSTATED AFTER THE APPOINTMENT OF the aforementioned Nimrod Baitos  to his position in the KRG?  Maybe it isn't since this was ONLY a coincidence.  Right?
 
A$HUR said:
Actually it is true.  It is run by a twice suspended priest who has been accused of child molestation.  This "priest" happens to be the brother of our very own, very beloved Nimrod Baito of the APP. 
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That can't be.  This website is dedicated to political slander, discussion, and exposes.  There is nothing religious in it.  I don't understand.  I thought the ACOE, under the orders of HH Mar Dinkha (wise orders, I may add), that they can't engage in such things.  It looks like a witch hunt against his own Assyrians, plus the desire to destroy political actors.  How can that be? 
 
waleeta said:
That can't be.  This website is dedicated to political slander, discussion, and exposes.  There is nothing religious in it.  I don't understand.  I thought the ACOE, under the orders of HH Mar Dinkha (wise orders, I may add), that they can't engage in such things.  It looks like a witch hunt against his own Assyrians, plus the desire to destroy political actors.  How can that be? 
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You know, I was thinking the EXACT same thing!  How can the Patriarch's orders be so blatantly disobeyed?  It makes me think of who is actually running the show.  Also, it doesn't LOOK like a witch hunt.  IT IS A WITCH HUNT!
 
waleeta said:
That can't be.  This website is dedicated to political slander, discussion, and exposes.  There is nothing religious in it.  I don't understand.  I thought the ACOE, under the orders of HH Mar Dinkha (wise orders, I may add), that they can't engage in such things.  It looks like a witch hunt against his own Assyrians, plus the desire to destroy political actors.  How can that be? 
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Mar Dinkha also said to forgive and forget, but not all his bishops are following that order are they?  So either his underlings consider him weak and simply ignore him, or he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.  But of course I'm  :eek:fftopic: -- that's a whole other thread, and a whole other forum as well!
 
why you just changing the subject, was not the discussion about dozoota and his threats and meso forum? by the way, Qasha Ammo if is melestor, why the parents of that child not taking him to court? and do you think if he was a "child molestor", Mar Dinkha will ever accept him back?
 
ashoraya said:
why you just changing the subject, was not the discussion about dozoota and his threats and meso forum? by the way, Qasha Ammo if is melestor, why the parents of that child not taking him to court? and do you think if he was a "child molestor", Mar Dinkha will ever accept him back?
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The subject was changed because you brought that website into the discussion.  What court would the parents of that child take him to?  Would mind sharing with us the location of the child and her family that accused Q. Ammo of molestation?  Yes I do believe he would accept him back.
 
ashoraya said:
why you just changing the subject, was not the discussion about dozoota and his threats and meso forum? by the way, Qasha Ammo if is melestor, why the parents of that child not taking him to court? and do you think if he was a "child molestor", Mar Dinkha will ever accept him back?
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Yes, because the church has never accepted back clergy that have broken canon laws  :bangin: Look, don't take our word for it -- ask your own clergy: why was this priest suspended twice (once by Mar Gewargis and the second time by Mar Odisho) and why was he allowed back?
 
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