waleeta said:Holy crap.
Someone who came back from Iraq a couple of years ago said something very interesting to me: The KRG isn't really worried about people like Yonadim Kanna or Ninos Bithyou...etc.etc. What they want to cut out of the equation are the young Assyrians - who outnumber the older nationalists, and their "blood is hotter". Which is why they force KDP membership and don't allow Assyrians to study what they wish, or let them find work easily, etc. It drives out the youth.
This is why I always want us to support the youth there, before even Zowaa: The ChaldoAssyrians Student Union, the Hammurabbi Scouts, etc. in a decade, they will be running things....if they're still there.
Aga said:Iam not trying to protects kurds but in this case christians and specifically assyrians youth doesn`t want to stay in Iraq or Kurdistan region, Each year goes thousands of assyrians and christians girls from west contries to Iraq and take with them husbunds and young assyrians with them into westworld. My point is KDP or kurds don`t seeing assyrians youth as threat but maybe adults because adults assyrians are thinking better than young assyrians. All christians youth want is to come to abroad. Thats the fact, even if kdp worry about them, they will send them passport with tickets to get red of them, with all respect dear waleeta I just don`t see any point in this case...
Aga said:Iam not trying to protects kurds but in this case christians and specifically assyrians youth doesn`t want to stay in Iraq or Kurdistan region, Each year goes thousands of assyrians and christians girls from west contries to Iraq and take with them husbunds and young assyrians with them into westworld. My point is KDP or kurds don`t seeing assyrians youth as threat but maybe adults because adults assyrians are thinking better than young assyrians. All christians youth want is to come to abroad. Thats the fact, even if kdp worry about them, they will send them passport with tickets to get red of them, with all respect dear waleeta I just don`t see any point in this case ...
Rumtaya said:Everyone wants to get out of Iraq, not only Assyrians but Kurds and Arabs too.
Aga said:Rumataya you right about that, yet are all refuges and youths whom are coming to abroad 40% christians,what does that mean? :baby:
waleeta said:Dear aga I know you don't. The good news is, you don't have to.
Plus the part in bold is just a lie. If you're going to lie about Assyrians, don't do it in an Assyrian forum where we know the Diaspora well.
If you want to be accurate, say that Assyrian men go to Syria to get Assyrian girls. That's actually true.
Aga said:why should I lie about Assyrians, isnt that true? I know young assyrians are willing to fight for their rights, no questions about that but pls go over there ask them if they want join ADM or come to Abroad? you will then see which will choose they will make, and this not only about assyrians even kurds and arabs..
Aga said:Rumataya you right about that, yet are all refuges and youths whom are coming to abroad 40% christians,what does that mean? :baby:
Rumataya you right about that, yet are all refuges and youths whom are coming to abroad 40% christians,what does that mean?
waleeta said:It means Muslims in Baghdad are killing them :baby:
edit: And that sons of bit*hes like Khisro Goran (A friend of your family's, right) are ensuring KDP terrorizes Assyrians who flee to the Nineveh Plains.
waleeta said:It means Muslims in Baghdad are killing them :baby:
edit: And that sons of bit*hes like Khisro Goran (A friend of your family's, right) are ensuring KDP terrorizes Assyrians who flee to the Nineveh Plains.
Damail said:That figure is from like 2003, you can't keep using the same statistics for every year.
waleeta said:No, it's not true. You lied. So I wanted to make sure I pointed that out.
Asking Assyrians if "they want to join ADM or leave" is a ridiculous way to phrase things. I would rather ask them "Would you want to be in control of your own lives in your lands or leave", then we'll get an answer.
Oh wait, an American NGO already did that study on refugees, and the ones who left their lands in the North said they'd rather go back to their homes, just without the KDP controlling their lives. So I guess we did ask them that.
Rumtaya said:Because Assyrians as Christians and indiginous people to Iraq are beeing killed, massacred, driven out and riped of from their basic human an natural rights.
In "IRAQ" its the Christian factor who makes us flee in "Southern Kurdistan" its the Assyrian factor which makes us flee, but don?t worry, Nineveh Plains will be soon an administrative Area.
Aga said:Damail I not using, I saw this recently in assyrians website...
Damail said:Could you post the link?
Aga said:Yet I disaggree with you especially when it comes about youngs, doesn`t matter of they are kurds or assyrians, they want come to abroad no matter what, even if you say wi will gave you free zone. And Iam not lying, if you do not trust me pls go over there and ask them personally, then you will find about their choose
Aga said:yes I know that, Iam aware of their situation but the subjuct were about young assyrians, don?t run out from the subjucts. According you waleeta that KDP are worying them for assyrians youth and Iam disaggree with you about this...
waleeta said:So do most youth in much of the world. America is their goal. But that's not the issue. The issue is: Live free in your own homeland or live under Kurds? The answer they give is live free in their homeland.
Asking them if they'd rather come to America? I think even every last Armenian would too, right? But ask the Armenians "live free in your own homeland or live under Turks"? They would answer live free in their homeland. So that's how you should be discussing this.