If we get our country, our Assyria. Would you move there? How will it stabilize?

the_dave

the_dave

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This is something I have been thinking about for a while, for us to have a country in the Middle East, we must have people that live there, Assyrians... A lot of people have moved away to other countries and much of the people that live in the Assyrian homeland lack the education or the experience to govern a new country of the kind that we are seeking. How will we face this problem and what can we do to solve it? Would you give up your life where you live now and go and live in Assyria? because without educated people and people who can help to stabilize Assyria, it will surely give us many more problems, like revolts, and even future wars, within the country or with the neighbours if unlucky... So what are our options according to you?
 
Honestly, even now that we don't have a country or self-governance, I already have interest to get my own house in my village of Tashish, Barwar. Even if I will go there for a few weeks every year, so be it. If everyone in the diaspora did this, buying a house back home in their village, we could repopulate the place. Basically, we would rotate year-round. So while some will choose to spend their summer vacation there, some may choose the winter, spring and so on.

Going by this model, at any moment in time, you could be looking at potentially thousands of Assyrians from the diaspora, living in atra again.  That could have a huge impact. Even if we are not there to stay, we are still spending a few weeks or even months of our year there.


ASHOOR
 
Yes, some day I want to go back to Assyria, regardless whether we have a own state or not.
And if we have an own state and Assyria need me, I will go to Assyria.

I think we have enough educated Assyrians there. I often read that the Christians are the most edicated people there. It isnt necessary that every single Assyrian is educated.
Only 15% of a society lead the society.
 
i probably wouldn't go back.  I might do the odd vacation, but i can't imagine living anywhere in the middle east permanently.  I'm not culturally assyrian as it is and find relating to assyrians really hard. 

Good luck though...i'm content with calling earth home.
 
ultoMa said:
i probably wouldn't go back.  I might do the odd vacation, but i can't imagine living anywhere in the middle east permanently.  I'm not culturally assyrian as it is and find relating to assyrians really hard. 

Good luck though...i'm content with calling earth home.
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u would get along very well with my sister.



I dont know if i would go back and live in there but i would like to go and visit ones a year but i could see my self living in lebanon other then that may be Israel but no where else.
 
ultoMa said:
...Good luck though...i'm content with calling earth home.
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omg, a typically sentences of "citizens of the world"
You can?t feel yourselv everywhere in the world at home, look at social science and similar sciences.
 
John_86 said:
omg, a typically sentences of "citizens of the world"
You can?t feel yourselv everywhere in the world at home, look at social science and similar sciences.
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hahah yeah man they are too funny...
 
ahh i was wondering when this thread was going to pop up again, I would buy a house\land in Urmia for vacation but not live there.
Plus I haven?t done my military service.
 
John_86 said:
omg, a typically sentences of "citizens of the world"
You can?t feel yourselv everywhere in the world at home, look at social science and similar sciences.
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I never claimed i can feel myself everywhere in the world.  I said that i'm merely content with the idea of calling earth my home...meaning, i don't lose sleep over not having a country to call my home.

what's wrong with that?
 
ultoMa said:
I never claimed i can feel myself everywhere in the world.  I said that i'm merely content with the idea of calling earth my home...meaning, i don't lose sleep over not having a country to call my home.

what's wrong with that?
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You did by writing "i'm content with calling earth home."

Did you never heard of the communication model iceberg model ?
- You are saying much more than just one sentence (90% of the iceberg is under water) by writing just one sentence (10% of the iceberg ist above the water).

btw, my opinion is, every person who are saying something like "I am a citizen of the world" is just a half educated person about the mind of the people.
Please, don?t take that personally, it?s just my opinion.

shlome lebonoye
 
John_86 said:
You did by writing "i'm content with calling earth home."

Did you never heard of the communication model iceberg model ?
- You are saying much more than just one sentence (90% of the iceberg is under water) by writing just one sentence (10% of the iceberg ist above the water).

btw, my opinion is, every person who are saying something like "I am a citizen of the world" is just a half educated person about the mind of the people.
Please, don?t take that personally, it?s just my opinion.

shlome lebonoye
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as long as we're qualifying opinions, my opinion is that you're a complete tool.  Don't take it personally though...it's just my opinion.

I wouldn't have this opinion if you explained, using logic, why considering the earth my home to be wrong.  I just assumed everyone knew this.
 
ultoMa said:
as long as we're qualifying opinions, my opinion is that you're a complete tool.  Don't take it personally though...it's just my opinion.

I wouldn't have this opinion if you explained, using logic, why considering the earth my home to be wrong.  I just assumed everyone knew this.
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Seriously, you are saying that you can live everywhere on earth? ok then go to like Zimbabwe or Somalia, or another poor African country where you barely have food and water, lets see how much you will call it home... Or why not just go and live in Siberia or in the Amazon jungle. Home is a place where you have other people that you share something with, like share the same culture, share the same understanding, where you have some family etc. Of course taht the Erath is your home(if your not an alien or something), but I doubt that you can or want to live everywhere on earth...
 
No, even if we do get a nation, I imagine it to be similar to Iraq, corruption would be rife and political struggles would ruin any chance of a peaceful life. It would take a long time for our people to learn how to disagree without attacking the opposition and what they stand for, and ultimately focus on working for their nation.

 
the_dave said:
Seriously, you are saying that you can live everywhere on earth? ok then go to like Zimbabwe or Somalia, or another poor African country where you barely have food and water, lets see how much you will call it home... Or why not just go and live in Siberia or in the Amazon jungle. Home is a place where you have other people that you share something with, like share the same culture, share the same understanding, where you have some family etc. Of course taht the Erath is your home(if your not an alien or something), but I doubt that you can or want to live everywhere on earth...
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i never said that i could live everywhere on earth...when did i say that?  I'm just saying something very obvious; that being that i'm a being of the earth...that's it!  I don't accept the notion that for a place to be 'home', it has to have cultural or ethnic relevance to you.  Read that sentence again.

My humanity is my similarity to the ppl of Zimbabwe or somalia...it doesn't have to be cultural similarities.
 
ultoMa said:
i never said that i could live everywhere on earth...when did i say that?  I'm just saying something very obvious; that being that i'm a being of the earth...that's it!  I don't accept the notion that for a place to be 'home', it has to have cultural or ethnic relevance to you.  Read that sentence again.

My humanity is my similarity to the ppl of Zimbabwe or somalia...it doesn't have to be cultural similarities.
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But that?s just the thing, you have different mentality compared to ex. a Somali or one from Congo, even though you have human compassion, or humanity. This because you have different experience in life... my point is that you don?t seem to care about what you call home, all the people seem to be the same or equal to you, also you don?t think that religion matters, what is Assyria for you then? Is it even worth fighting for? Since, as I see it, you seem to live perfectly just like you live now, and it doesn?t matter to you if we get our country (this is just the picture I get of you, I am not saying that this is the fact)?
 
Salem said:
No, even if we do get a nation, I imagine it to be similar to Iraq, corruption would be rife and political struggles would ruin any chance of a peaceful life. It would take a long time for our people to learn how to disagree without attacking the opposition and what they stand for, and ultimately focus on working for their nation.
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Good point, just to add everything to explain above happens to us in the west imagine back home.
 
Assyria will rise and I am throwing my bid for president.  Who else than someone named Ashur to run our country.
P.S. I will be running as a Republican and Ashur Bet Sargis is my running mate
 
Ashur1985 said:
Assyria will rise and I am throwing my bid for president.  Who else than someone named Ashur to run our country.
P.S. I will be running as a Republican and Ashur Bet Sargis is my running mate
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Got My Vote!  :lol:
 
yes i would move back....gladly and i can only wish by some god given miracle that Assyrians would have their own country.  but I'm a realist, and i know that will never happen, but the least i can do is at least buy property in turkey and visit as much as i can, and try to have some sort of homeland for myself. i imagine that's what educated, and obviously somewhat wealthy Assyrians will do.  that's our only way of claiming back what was rightfully ours.
 
I'm a mixture of ashoor and salems comment.
If and when we do get a country and I'm financially stable to travel once a year then I will go.(harder if I ever plan for kids)traveling isn't cheap at all. I hope we do get some sort of resolution to the middle east problems. Until that happens I refuse to travel to anywhere in that part of the world.
 
ultoMa said:
as long as we're qualifying opinions, my opinion is that you're a complete tool.  Don't take it personally though...it's just my opinion.

I wouldn't have this opinion if you explained, using logic, why considering the earth my home to be wrong.  I just assumed everyone knew this.
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Considering the earth your home is kind of like saying all people in the world are your family - it means you have no priorities, but the truth is there is something called preferences/national loyalty.  Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say.
 
No, I wouldn't move there. Mainly because I don't want to be living in the Middle East but if we could get Turkey as our own, I may consider moving there.

I'd visit though.
 
The landscape of Turkey is very similar to ours in the North.  Very similar.  And I know it's not because of the people of Turkey.
 
The landscape isn't what would keep me from living there. I'm sure it's very beautiful.

It's the region itself, the surrounding Arab nations.
 
Our occupations would be set by our tribal allegiance



Urmichanye would be the librarians
Tyaryeh would be in charge of defense
Nochi's would run the national church

 
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