How confident are you of Assyrian Professionals
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ACANA said:
When it comes to hiring services, I love to work with assyrians... and pay top dollar. Don't negotiate with our own people, negotiate with the nookhriyeh!
When it comes to hiring people to work under me, I am reluctant. I don't trust myself... I think I might give that person, unknowingly, preferential treatment... or that person might expect it.
baklawa
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Honestly, I wish I could say I have had positive experiences working with Assyrian professionals, but it hasn't been the case. And I never seem to learn my lesson -- each time I tell myself "this one will be different" but NOPE. From hair dressers who took SIX HOURS to do my hair because she was too busy running the salon by herself and had to stop every time a customer came in or the phone rang, to the painter who spent more time wanting to talk about Assyrian affairs rather than completing the job, to the laborer who installed our kitchen counters and discovered we didn't share the same political beliefs as he did and never finished the job.
Going based on experience, I am not confident about doing business with Assyrians.
Based on my own experiences, and I'm not saying this would be the case for everyone, but I have found that whenever I do business with Assyrians, they drop their service standards and try to take advantage of you, thinking because your Assyrian you'll just deal with it, which in most cases is exactly what I did.
Based on my own experiences, and I'm not saying this would be the case for everyone, but I have found that whenever I do business with Assyrians, they drop their service standards and try to take advantage of you, thinking because your Assyrian you'll just deal with it, which in most cases is exactly what I did.
Actually it depends which Assyrians we're talking about here, if it's your typical father or grandfather generation then no, but the new generation is changing of course and I can safely say that I've had a positive experience with the younger ones that are educated here and grew up here.
Back in Iraq for example Assyrians (Along with Armenians) were among the most educated ones and people usually loved doing business with them more than the Arabs. The reason why we don't see the same thing in these western countries is not because Assyrians are not qualified or not good enough, but because these countries are very multi cultured that we're pretty lost in them and the more visible minorities get the bigger recognition, not to mention that our Assyrians doctors and engineers from back home who ran away and came here can't work with their education so their level goes down and there goes their quality.
Give it time and let the younger generation rise, you will see the quality again.
Back in Iraq for example Assyrians (Along with Armenians) were among the most educated ones and people usually loved doing business with them more than the Arabs. The reason why we don't see the same thing in these western countries is not because Assyrians are not qualified or not good enough, but because these countries are very multi cultured that we're pretty lost in them and the more visible minorities get the bigger recognition, not to mention that our Assyrians doctors and engineers from back home who ran away and came here can't work with their education so their level goes down and there goes their quality.
Give it time and let the younger generation rise, you will see the quality again.
I don't understand what the hesitation with going with an Assyrian Professional. Watching other nationalities withrespect to Lawyers, Accountents during Tax Time, Doctors or Dentists, Real Estate Sales people and even renovators, we don't even come close. Most of the other nationalities go to thier own when it comes to getting service. We on the other hand think of our own being inferior in quality.
Guys, this is a subject dear to my heart, because I always want our Assyrian money to end up for other Assyrians. As much as we could.
Sure, Assyrian businesses can be lousy and unprofessional. Not all of them though.
It is not about 'Assyrian' only. It is about where we come from: Middle East. Bsharfoukh, what business standards or professionalism did they have back there? so we brought these with us here, and it will take decades to adopt the new American, European standards etc.
Assyrian professionals and businesses need a lot of things to get in par with other professionals. But the two most important things are:
-Education and -Re-training (who cares if you were a mechanic in Iraq, working on old millitary buses in Iraq?)
-Good customer service. When I listen to Assyrian business people (not all of them of course) talk on the phone with client, I feel so embaressed, I just want to take the phone and apologise to the person on the other side. It is like they are doing their best to ensure the client never comes back.
It is amazing that some Assyrian businesses don't apply the golden rule to business "Do unto others as you want done into you..."
Again, it is not necessairily bad customer service. It is just the way we have learnt from our home countries.
I mean what business can we learn from the way Iraqis did business for example? lol near where I lived in Baghdad, there was a female grocer named Shisha. If you dared to go in her store, look at stuff and not buy anything, she had a male cousin companion who would beat you up, literally! I swear I am not lying. She was popular in the area for doing this: if you go there, you have to buy, otherwise her cousin, if he was near by, would beat you up before you can leave :lol:
And if I tell you stories about how they treat you in the grocery market back in Iraq, you will know very well why Assyrians operate the way they do. Or at least it exaplains a little bit about why they are like this.
ASHOOR
Sure, Assyrian businesses can be lousy and unprofessional. Not all of them though.
It is not about 'Assyrian' only. It is about where we come from: Middle East. Bsharfoukh, what business standards or professionalism did they have back there? so we brought these with us here, and it will take decades to adopt the new American, European standards etc.
Assyrian professionals and businesses need a lot of things to get in par with other professionals. But the two most important things are:
-Education and -Re-training (who cares if you were a mechanic in Iraq, working on old millitary buses in Iraq?)
-Good customer service. When I listen to Assyrian business people (not all of them of course) talk on the phone with client, I feel so embaressed, I just want to take the phone and apologise to the person on the other side. It is like they are doing their best to ensure the client never comes back.
It is amazing that some Assyrian businesses don't apply the golden rule to business "Do unto others as you want done into you..."
Again, it is not necessairily bad customer service. It is just the way we have learnt from our home countries.
I mean what business can we learn from the way Iraqis did business for example? lol near where I lived in Baghdad, there was a female grocer named Shisha. If you dared to go in her store, look at stuff and not buy anything, she had a male cousin companion who would beat you up, literally! I swear I am not lying. She was popular in the area for doing this: if you go there, you have to buy, otherwise her cousin, if he was near by, would beat you up before you can leave :lol:
And if I tell you stories about how they treat you in the grocery market back in Iraq, you will know very well why Assyrians operate the way they do. Or at least it exaplains a little bit about why they are like this.
ASHOOR
Not so confident... Especially assyrian mechanics.... WOW. They're lousy, but I still go to them because I like to support our own people.
"Oh, your so and so's sons nephews friend??? Were cousins nasha! Let me hook you up" Typical assyrian lol.. Were all cousins somehow.
I WOULD trust any assyrian with a backround in some college/ university with a degree or diploma. All these other mechanics or handy-men are just people who learned back home from their parents.
"Oh, your so and so's sons nephews friend??? Were cousins nasha! Let me hook you up" Typical assyrian lol.. Were all cousins somehow.
I WOULD trust any assyrian with a backround in some college/ university with a degree or diploma. All these other mechanics or handy-men are just people who learned back home from their parents.
:wavetowel:Ashoor Aziza, in Iraq, good customer service did not exist, but that is changing. I agree with you we have brought some of that mentality here.
Assyrian professionals are good, but they are not greatly supported by us. We would rather go to a nekhraia when it comes to get our taxes done (even though a lot of our people got burned recently by the nekhraita accountant), or to sell our home, or to work on our teeth, or to do renovation on our kitchen cabinets. Some of these professionals are educated and have done business only here (not back home).
Look at other nationalities; they are greatly supportive of their own people. We don?t do that. We think our professionals are inferior.
Mind you there are other business that get supported by our people i.e. hairdressers, mechanics, variety stores. These obviously are considered as businesses where language, trust and price reduction are of utmost importance.
Assyrian professionals are good, but they are not greatly supported by us. We would rather go to a nekhraia when it comes to get our taxes done (even though a lot of our people got burned recently by the nekhraita accountant), or to sell our home, or to work on our teeth, or to do renovation on our kitchen cabinets. Some of these professionals are educated and have done business only here (not back home).
Look at other nationalities; they are greatly supportive of their own people. We don?t do that. We think our professionals are inferior.
Mind you there are other business that get supported by our people i.e. hairdressers, mechanics, variety stores. These obviously are considered as businesses where language, trust and price reduction are of utmost importance.
Good points ACANA. Like I said, I personally, through AVN, have been calling for the total support of our Assyrian businesses, wherever possible.
For example, in 2004, we formally introduced July 1st. as an annual "Buy from Assyrian" Day. On this day, Assyrians are encouraged to go out and buy from Assyrian stores and businesses. Of course, it is not just about one day. It is more of a symbolic thing. I have written several articles and reports about this day which AVN pioneered.
People don't get this: if we keep on supporting these businesses, they in turn will help the comunity, and make a lot of contributions to Assyrian causes and charities. If we don't support them, they won't have the funds to support any charities, community events, sports teams etc.
And again, not all Assyrian businesses have an Iraqi or Middl-Eastern mentality. Some came here when they were young and have become professional at what they do.
ASHOOR
For example, in 2004, we formally introduced July 1st. as an annual "Buy from Assyrian" Day. On this day, Assyrians are encouraged to go out and buy from Assyrian stores and businesses. Of course, it is not just about one day. It is more of a symbolic thing. I have written several articles and reports about this day which AVN pioneered.
People don't get this: if we keep on supporting these businesses, they in turn will help the comunity, and make a lot of contributions to Assyrian causes and charities. If we don't support them, they won't have the funds to support any charities, community events, sports teams etc.
And again, not all Assyrian businesses have an Iraqi or Middl-Eastern mentality. Some came here when they were young and have become professional at what they do.
ASHOOR