Hanged at dawn

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Convicted Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van has been hanged at dawn at Singapore's Changi Prison at 6am local time (9am AEDT).

He was led to the gallows in a hood, but was not believed to be shackled in accordance with his final wish.

His execution was to be witnessed by prison officers and medical staff.

Nguyen's mother Kim and twin brother Khoa, as well as his lawyers Lex Lasry QC and Julian McMahon were at the prison but were not allowed to witness the execution.

Mr Lasry said although Nguyen had accepted his fate, he was concerned about the wellbeing of his family and friends.

"The courage that he's showing runs in the family", Mr Lasry told the Nine Network's Today this morning.

"For all her fragility, his mother is showing enormous courage in the face of probably the greatest adversity a mother could ever have to face."

Mr Lasry said although Kim Nguyen was distraught, she had accepted her son's fate and will deal with it "with courage and fortitude".

Yesterday, the 25-year-old former salesman was photographed posing in different outfits, and the pictures were handed to his mother as final keepsakes.

Special permission was granted to allow the family to hold hands during the visit. A request allow them to hug each other was refused because, according to Singaporean authorities, "such encounters can be traumatic and can destabilise the prisoner and their family".

Nguyen was convicted last year of importing almost 400g of heroin into Singapore in December 2002.

He faced the gallows after all appeals for his clemency, led by Prime Minister John Howard, were rebuffed. He is the first Australian to be executed in 12 years. The most recent was Michael McAuliffe, who was hanged in Malaysia in 1993 on heroin charges.

About 11am local time (2pm AEDT) a hearse will collect his body.

Family, friends and legal team, together with staff from the Australian High Commission, are expected to hold a commemoration service at a church in the city-state in the early afternoon.

Candlelight vigils were held around the country to mark the execution.

At Melbourne's St Ignatius Catholic Church, where Nguyen and his brother once went to school, the bell rang out 25 times, once for each year of Nguyen's life.
 
In Singapore they still do.

This case had received a lot of attention in here, obviously because it concerns an Australian, and also because we don't have Capital Punishment in Australia.

It has been going on for several months, and it even involved the Prime Minister, among others, personally requesting that his sentence be reduced to life in prison, all such requests were denied, and he was hanged 30 mins ago.

May he rest in peace.
 
Allah Manikhleh. I dont believe in the death penality but on the other hand he knew what he was doing, he had heroin on him for 26000 doses and he knew that those countries are very stricy when it comes to drugs.

My heart goes out to his family.
 
peaches said:
Allah Manikhleh. I dont believe in the death penality but on the other hand he knew what he was doing, he had heroin on him for 26000 doses and he knew that those countries are very stricy when it comes to drugs.

My heart goes out to his family.

yeah i agree

in him being caught and prosecuted thousands of other families wouldn?t suffer.
 
Drug traffikers are murderers and should be punished the same way. This nonsense that "he was only selling drugs" is a cop out. And before Australians start acting like childish brats like they did when Schapelle Corby got 20 years over in Indonesia, HE KNEW what he was doing. I just can't feel sorry for this moron and any other moron who involves themselves in drugs. They are harmful and can kill people. Look at Austraian society. You are not considered cool enough for Australian society if you can look eople in the eye and say, "I have never tried any drugs".

May other druggies follow his path to Singapore or Thailand or Malaysia.
 
Nguyen was convicted last year of importing almost 400g of heroin into Singapore in December 2002.

ohhhh wow!!... thats alot of heroin... :ban:

but it is really worth the death penalty... especially the way they chose to execute him... damn


RIP :rose:
 
atourina said:
Nguyen was convicted last year of importing almost 400g of heroin into Singapore in December 2002.

ohhhh wow!!... thats alot of heroin... :ban:

but it is really worth the death penalty... especially the way they chose to execute him... damn


RIP :rose:

anything that?s not time or money costly...

they could have given him a lethal injection...at least it would be more humane but then again it would cost $$$
 
Moja Moja said:
Drug traffikers are murderers and should be punished the same way. This nonsense that "he was only selling drugs" is a cop out. And before Australians start acting like childish brats like they did when Schapelle Corby got 20 years over in Indonesia, HE KNEW what he was doing. I just can't feel sorry for this moron and any other moron who involves themselves in drugs. They are harmful and can kill people. Look at Austraian society. You are not considered cool enough for Australian society if you can look eople in the eye and say, "I have never tried any drugs".

May other druggies follow his path to Singapore or Thailand or Malaysia.

How very Christian of you!

That is seriously among the top 3 must DISGUSTING things I've had the displeasure of reading on these forums.

I'm just glad we don' live in a society that abids by 'an eye for an eye'. I love the civilised nation we are privlidged to have grown up in.

My heart goes out to Vans family, friends and I pray God rests his soul!
 
what was disgusting about what I said? Not once did I say that I am in favour of capital punishment. I am in favour of severe punishments for drug trafficking unlike in Australia where it is practically legal!

He was not forced to enter a country which has capital punishment, he chose to.

He was not forced to deal with drugs, he chose to.

Australia is a country which was colonised by convicts. It was a penal colony. Unfortunately, we have not moved from the past and still live in it.

This year, Australia's heros were Schapelle Corby, Michelle Leslie and Van Nguyen. How pathetic are we as a nation that we mourn the demise of convicted criminals and not real heros, who save lives, rather than take them.

No Renee, what you have said to me ranks high in disgusting. If drug traffickers should be treated like heros and martyrs, then thank goodness I now live in a country which has their priorities right.
 
JooJee said:
atourina said:
Nguyen was convicted last year of importing almost 400g of heroin into Singapore in December 2002.

ohhhh wow!!... thats alot of heroin... :ban:

but it is really worth the death penalty... especially the way they chose to execute him... damn


RIP :rose:

anything that?s not time or money costly...

they could have given him a lethal injection...at least it would be more humane but then again it would cost $$$

i think they hung him to show other drug traffikers that this will happen to u if u come to our country, to scare them off, its not about the cost of killing someone, its the way the do it to scare the drugees. singapore is a rich country, they wouldnt mind wasting money on this guy.

r.i.p.
 
Moja Moja said:
Drug traffikers are murderers and should be punished the same way.

Read what you wrote. Again, I reiterate, disgusting!

I don't know of ONE Australian that considers any of the persons you mentioned a martyr. You are, as always, speaking out of your rear.

Please don?t speak on behalf of our nation, if you want to claim you are pathetic, feel free to, don?t project it on to the entire nation of Australia.

I am proud of the nation within which I live, it?s humane laws and regulations.

Not once were criminals treated as heros?Any person facing death for any crime, has been viewed as a human! Sympathy for a life taken, a life wasted!

I hope your hypocritical stance is known to you, your comments are not ones of a follower of Christ.
 
im not sure why people start to take drugs in the first place, but after they start its like a disease, and it gets out of control. sometimes it seems like the only way out of a situation is to take drugs...im not justifying it, but it is what it is. i dont know if this man was a user of the drug or just a provider of it, but either way, no human is godly enough to decide when it is time for someone to die. life/death is in gods hands, and its a sin to kill either way, even if u are killing a killer. again alah manikhleh
 
wow may he r.i.p. does the hanging apply to any drugs such as weed n stuff? i understand heroin being death penalty and it should b like that everywhere cuz heroin's a fkd up drug
 
Uneek said:
You are not considered cool enough for Australian society if you can look eople in the eye and say, "I have never tried any drugs".

whatever you just said is a total BULLLLLLLLSHIT (not only the quoted part)
you need to be shot **** dumbcunt



:jawdrop: harsh
 
Renee and Uneek, you obviously have a short memory or have never been a victim of crime or don't know anyone who is a victim of crime.

A former Aussie AVNer lost her father about this time last year. He was killed in an absolutely senceless crime. I don't need to go over what happened because I am sure those who don't have selective memories are sick and tired of hearing about it. May he rest in peace.

Last year, just over a year ago, if your memory goes that far, there was a blitz in Australia on paedophiles and child pornography. Do you remember that or do you have selective memories? How pathetic was that? The children who were sexually abused and/or photographed were forgotten, but the ones who were arrested were given access to counciling. What sick and twisted society gives councilling to the criminal and not the victim? Why are there support groups for convicted paedophiles but not sexually abused children?

Renee and Uneek, you sicken me! My best friend was sexually abused as a child and kept this a secret for 24 years until the blitz last year. The man who raped him as a 5 year old was caught last year. He was given concilling and support and treatment.

What did my friend get? NOTHING!!! May my friend LIVE in peace because he will never get back his innocence because Australian society chooses to ignore victims.

Australia has to start looking after victims of crimes and if they have this much sympathy for a criminal, then how much more sympathy should victims of crime receive. Nguyen is being treated like a hero and a martyr by the media when he was out there in our society and causing harm to many people. I choose to feel sorry for his victims.

And who are you to make judgements on my Christian beliefs? God will judge Nguyen, not you or I. Only God. I said I feel no sympathy for him as I am only sympatheic to victims. Nguyen was not a victim.

Uneek, have a bit of class. Attack my words, instead of using such classless and derogatory vocabulary. I did not attack your integrity, only your opinion!

Hardly a word was said when the AVNers father was killed last year but we weep for a criminal. How twisted is that?
 
First off Moja...this was a Discussion about Van Nguyen and the death penality in relation to drug trafficking, not Child Sexual Abuse, so just because you have made clearly repulsive statements in relation to the topic at hand, don't start drawing at straws to bring up your lowered demeanor.

Secondly, do you have any idea of the mortality rates related to heroin? In 2000, 500 people died from heroin, this dropped to 364 in 2002 due to the introduction of shooting rooms. Do you have any idea of how many people died because of cigrettes in 2000? 19,000 people...a legal drug! So don't sit there and rattle off misguided rhetoric. Sometimes the criminals are the victims, but you seem unable to acknowledge this fact. Perhaps speak to a criminologist. Don't blow up the harm caused by a drug just because you read some second rate news paper(or wherever you get your views from) sensationalising thie issue.

Thridly, I suggest you stop making assumptions and drawing conclusions based on these assumptions as you so often do! You once gave an example of how people make logical conclusions and how idiots do the same, re-read that post!

Lastly, if you are unhappy with the justice system that is in place here in Australia, do something proactive about it. You don't have to jump on the band wagon of animalistic sanctions such as the death penality. I will never support an argument that stems from the belief of 'an eye for an eye', NEVER! I find it repulsive.
 
I did something very pro-active, I evacuated Australia. The only thing I need to worry about is earthquakes which I am sure you and Uneek will cheer loudly if I was killed in one. Don't deny it either!

I did not support the death penalty. All I said was that only a moron would carry drugs into a country that has a death penalty. I also thought that it was a bit rough not allowing his mother to hug her son one last time. But I don't sympathise with his plight because knew full well what he was doing. We as a nation sympathise with him but not victims of crimes. I am sorry that you don't have a concience and a heart but some of us do.

So shooting rooms are the answer? Why do we have these in the first place?
 
May God rest his soul in peace ?

Nguyen Tuong Van imported almost 400g of heroin in a country where drug dealing is a crime!

Moja Moja,
Nguyen deserved a penalty yes but not death. I don?t think death penalty should be given to anyone at all. Just like we judge the person to die, we will be judged equally as well by God.

Having said that?.

Sometimes people are odd in choosing how to live their lives and ways of getting income?

In Nguyen Tuong case, he chose to deal with drugs; he chose to go to such country with such harsh punishments yet at the end he still CHOSE to deal with it? Not to say he deserved hanging penalty, no, but he did deserve some other punishment?

I am not taking sides here, but am reading 2 different point of views here and giving mine?
Nguyen made his choices knowing the consequences?
He was harshly punished, which I don?t agree to it.

Yes I know cigarettes kills more people than heroin, but guess what, cigarettes are legal heroin isn?t!
 
im just wondering why put so much effort into saying R.I.P for a (drug dealer??) a heroin dealer to be exact! :blink:

the problems those kind of filth create in this world makes a serial killer an angel in comparison. we certainly dont need these kinds of people in this already F'ed up world. yes they got somewhat primitive laws in many asian countries and maybe a minimum life sentense was a better alternative but since they chose hanging i wont have any simpathy for someone like that, at least not enough to say R.I.P.
 
Daggo,

what do you have to lose by saying rest in peace?

Yes, he made the wrong choices in making the world a bad place, if u see it that way?
He is or was human, and as one human to the other we should have more compassion to one another, don?t you think?

Criminal is criminal no matter what when they break a rule, but there are other ways of paying for such crimes?death should NOT be considered a form of punishment, it should be considered a sin?.but than again, that is just my opinion.
 
THE GUY IS DEAD ...FURTHER DISCUSSION WILL JUST CAUSE MORE TENSION BETWEEN PEOPLE HERE SO LET THE BOY RIP ...DRUG DEALRER OR NOT...
 
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