Google is Scaring Everyone wow!

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Read this guys, Google is turning into God lol.
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Google sparks fear in hearts of big retailers
Even Wal-Mart sees potential of Internet giant
Like Web surfers, shoppers may start with search site
Nov. 7, 2005. 05:06 AM
STEVE LOHR
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE


NEW YORK?Wal-Mart, the largest U.S. retailer, strikes fear into the hearts of its competitors and suppliers. Makers of goods from diapers to DVDs must cater to its whims.

But there is one company that even Wal-Mart eyes warily these days: Google, a 7-year-old business in a seemingly distant industry.

"We watch Google very closely at Wal-Mart," said Jim Breyer, a member of Wal-Mart's board.

In Google, Wal-Mart sees both a technology pioneer and the seed of a threat, said Breyer, who is also a partner in a venture capital firm. The worry is that by making information available everywhere, Google might soon be able to tell Wal-Mart shoppers if better bargains are available nearby.

Wal-Mart is scarcely alone in its concern. As Google increasingly becomes the starting point for finding information and buying products and services, companies that even a year ago did not see themselves as competing with Google are beginning to view the company with some angst ? mixed with admiration.

Google's recent moves have stirred concern in industries from book publishing to telecommunications.

Businesses already feeling the Google effect include advertising, software and the news media. Apart from retailing, Google's disruptive presence may soon be felt in real estate and auto sales.

Google, the reigning giant of Web search, could extend its economic reach in the next few years as more people get high-speed Internet service and cellphones become full-fledged search tools, according to analysts.

And ever-smarter software, they say, will cull and organize larger and larger digital storehouses of news, images, real estate listings and traffic reports, delivering results that are more like the advice of a trusted human expert.

Such advances, predicts Esther Dyson, a technology consultant, will bring "a huge reduction in inefficiency everywhere." That, in turn, would be an unsettling force for all sorts of industries and workers. But it would also reward consumers with lower prices and open up opportunities for new companies.

Google, then, may turn out to have a more far-reaching impact than earlier Web winners like Amazon and eBay.

"Google is the realization of everything that we thought the Internet was going to be about but really wasn't until Google," said David Yoffie, a professor at Harvard Business School.

Google, to be sure, is but one company at the forefront of the continuing spread of Internet technology. It has many competitors, and it could stumble. In the search market alone, Google faces formidable rivals like Microsoft and Yahoo.

Microsoft in particular is pushing hard to catch Google in Internet search. "This is hypercompetition, make no mistake," said Bill Gates, Microsoft's chief executive.


Still, apart from its front-runner status, Google is also remarkable for its pace of innovation and for how broadly it seems to interpret its mission to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."

The company's current lineup of offerings includes software for searching personal computer files; an email service; maps; satellite images; instant messaging; blogging tools; a service for posting and sharing digital photos; and specialized searches for news, video, shopping and local information. Google's most controversial venture, Google Print, is a project to copy and catalogue millions of books; it faces lawsuits by some publishers and authors who say it violates copyright law.

Google, which tends to keep its plans secret, certainly has the wealth to fund ambitious ventures.

Its revenues are growing by nearly 100 per cent a year, and its profits are rising even faster. Its executives speak of the company's outlook only in broad strokes, but they suggest all-but-unlimited horizons.

"We believe that search networks as industries remain in their nascent stages of growth, with great forward potential," Eric Schmidt, Google's chief executive, told analysts last month.

Among the many projects being developed and debated inside Google is a real estate service, according to a person who has attended meetings on the proposal. The concept, the person said, would be to improve the capabilities of its satellite imaging, maps and local search, and combine them with property listings.

The service, this person said, could make house-hunting far more efficient, requiring potential buyers to visit fewer real estate agents and houses.

If successful, it would be another magnet for the text ads that appear next to search results, the source of most of Google's revenue.

In telecommunications, the company has made a number of moves that have grabbed the attention of industry executives. It has been buying fibre-optic cable capacity in the United States and has invested in a company delivering high-speed Internet access over power lines. And it is participating in an experiment to provide free wireless Internet access in San Francisco.

That has led to speculation that the company wants to build a national free GoogleNet, paid for mostly by advertising. And Google executives seem to delight in dropping tantalizing, if vague, hints. "We focus on access to the information as much as the search itself, because you need both," Schmidt said in an analysts' conference call last month.

Telecommunications executives are skeptical that Google could seriously eat into their business anytime soon. For one thing, they say, it will be difficult and expensive to build a national network. Still, they monitor Google's every move.

"Google is certainly a potential competitor," said Bill Smith, the chief technology officer of BellSouth, the Atlanta-based regional phone company.

The No. 1 rival to phone companies in the Internet access business, Smith noted, is the cable television operators. "But do I discount Google? Absolutely not," he said. "You'd be a fool to do that these days."

In retailing, Google has no interest in stocking and selling merchandise. Its potential impact is more subtle, yet still significant.

Every store is a collection of goods, some items more profitable than others. But the less-profitable items may bring people into stores, where they also buy the high-margin offerings ? one shelf, in effect, subsidizes another.

Search engines, combined with other technologies, have the potential to drive comparison shopping down to the shelf-by-shelf level.

Such services could lead to lower prices for consumers, but also to relentless competition that threatens to break up existing businesses
 
Google might soon be able to tell Wal-Mart shoppers if better bargains are available nearby.

This is very true, and walmart shoudl be worried. Anyone trying to be the "low price leader" about standard type merchandise should be worried.

I saw this coming a long time ago, which is why I refuse to sell merchandise online competing on price.

For example, shop for a car stereo player. You want the new Pioneer deck DEH-P900R. All you need to do is search for it and a million people selling it will show up. Who will you buy it from? The one selling for the cheapest of course. Unless someone around the block has it in stock and you can get it right now, maybe you'll pay $10 more for it.

With jewelry it's totally different. If I sell a "diamond heart pendant" how do you shop around and compare for that? You can't. There are quality issues like diamond quality, diamond setting quality, etc. The gram weight or carat weight could be different, the design could be slightly different, etc, etc. It's the perfect type of business to be in online. Those selling standard merchandise with a product code are SCREWED! Those trying to be the "low price leader" are SCREWED as well because someone will always come and try to be cheaper or at the very least sell for the same price and take away your market share.

So ya, walmart should be scared of Google. If they want to avoid a battle with Google they need to sell merchandise with added value. Ie, install that CD player in my car for only $40 more. No one online can do that. Being the low price leader is not a good position to be in.
 
You are all forgetting one big item though, SHIPPING.

I'm not going to buy toiletries and diapers for my kids, let alone canned goods online and pay the shipping on those items. There is no way they could compete with a lean operating machine like WalMart.

There are obviously though many items that do make sense. DVDs, small technology items. Anything that is small, but carries a higher price tag with more margins gives more flexibility to online retailers to play with shipping charges.
 
I'm not going to buy toiletries and diapers for my kids, let alone canned goods online and pay the shipping on those items. There is no way they could compete with a lean operating machine like WalMart.

you get free shipping when you buy $25 or more from amazon.com. A lot of websites offer free shipping for various items. Amazon is the online equivalent of walmart. They sell everything ever made, they sell it cheap and they are efficient.

But that's not really what the author was trying to say. He is saying that Google wants to organize the entire world's information. Google has already started to offer local search results. Ie you put in your zipcode and it tells you all the flower shops or pizza shops in your area, etc. There is also technology that tells you as you are driving via GPS where these stores are. Google also organizes Froogle, an online shopping tool. What if they were to put the 2 together? So as you're driving, you need toilet paper, you search google and tell it to find your favorite brand, or whatever is on sale, and it searches and tells you what store you will find it at? Grocery stores have specials all the time, but not everyone knows about it. Google wants to change all that in a nutshell and make all the public domain information available to everyone in an easy, convenient search. Even if only 5% of people switch places they buy toilet paper from, a 5% loss to walmart would be devestating. A 20% loss in market share to them could put them out of business.
 
Google is 5 miles wide and barely an inch deep. You can not do real research via Google effectively, or efficiently.

I am not talking about generic research on a washer and dryer or lyrics to a song.

I'm talking about true research. Do a search on U. S. Civil War. How many tens of millions of results do you get? Then you have to decipher between the good and bad info. It's horrible for real research. Any moron could put up a website and make it look good.

If you want DEEP information, a library is still your best place.
 
John_5_24 said:
Google is 5 miles wide and barely an inch deep. You can not do real research via Google effectively, or efficiently.

I am not talking about generic research on a washer and dryer or lyrics to a song.

I'm talking about true research. Do a search on U. S. Civil War. How many tens of millions of results do you get? Then you have to decipher between the good and bad info. It's horrible for real research. Any moron could put up a website and make it look good.

If you want DEEP information, a library is still your best place.

Not unless your trained to discern facts from legit sources, then you shouldn't be worried. Google offers an almost infinite number of searches and you can pick out with sources you want to view. Beauty of the internet is really a chance for us to do all our research from the comfort of our own home. I've done research and all my sources have been legitimate. It's really how the researcher does it. I mean it's not just Google, we all know that, but it's become a household name and if I was doing some research for school or for fun Google would be the first place to start.
 
Hahaha! So the famous Walton family of Wal-Mart will lose a few billions, haha, and the filthy rich (each worth over $20 billion, and I think there are four or five of them) will feel it a little in their pockets ... and WE as consumers might actually reap the benefits. I sorta effin love this.

A LOT. :diablo:
 
shamirum said:
Hahaha! So the famous Walton family of Wal-Mart will lose a few billions, haha, and the filthy rich (each worth over $20 billion, and I think there are four or five of them) will feel it a little in their pockets ... and WE as consumers might actually reap the benefits. I sorta effin love this.

A LOT. :diablo:

No!! "Walmart only at Walmart" hahaha. yeah i hope they turn to dust.
 
RadRides said:
John_5_24 said:
Google is 5 miles wide and barely an inch deep. You can not do real research via Google effectively, or efficiently.

I am not talking about generic research on a washer and dryer or lyrics to a song.

I'm talking about true research. Do a search on U. S. Civil War. How many tens of millions of results do you get? Then you have to decipher between the good and bad info. It's horrible for real research. Any moron could put up a website and make it look good.

If you want DEEP information, a library is still your best place.

Not unless your trained to discern facts from legit sources, then you shouldn't be worried. Google offers an almost infinite number of searches and you can pick out with sources you want to view. Beauty of the internet is really a chance for us to do all our research from the comfort of our own home. I've done research and all my sources have been legitimate. It's really how the researcher does it. I mean it's not just Google, we all know that, but it's become a household name and if I was doing some research for school or for fun Google would be the first place to start.

Rad, even Google would dipsute your assertion. Why do you think there is such a push from Google to add content via Google Scholar and Google Print? They know they have a very big problem.

Don't get me wrong. I use Google all the time, and I realize and appreciatee their value as much as anyone. I just think people are trying to make them into something they are not. At least not yet anyways.
 
Slightly off topic... google search the word failure and check out the number one item it finds... good for a laugh :)
 
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