Good news: the anti-Assyrian priest is soon to be excommunicated!

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Vatican can?t save El Cajon priest from excommunication

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EL CAJON, Calif. -- The priest at the center of a Vatican conflict in San Diego has now officially been terminated from the church.

Father Noel Gorgis has served as a Chaldean priest for the last 26 years. A naturalized US citizen, religious persecution forced Father Noel to flee his homeland of Iraq decades ago.

?Iraq is gone, it?s just historical land for me. It?s the past. I?m looking for the future,? said Father Noel.

But that future remains unclear. At issue is a demand by Patriarch Louis Raphael I Sako that Gorgis and 10 other Chaldean priests in the U.S. return to Iraq or face, in effect, excommunication.

Father Noel Gorgis
Father Noel Gorgis

In an interview with Aleteia, a Rome-based Catholic news agency, Sako said that the survival of the church was at stake during the onslaught by Islamic radicals.

"We have been there for 2,000 years," he said. "We have a mission and a role, and if a future exists for the Chaldean Church, it is not in the diaspora but in Iraq. If all the families leave, and even the priests, the entire history and Chaldean Christian patrimony will vanish."

Gorgis, 49, known as Father Noel, is pastor at St. Peter Chaldean Church in El Cajon. Along with the Detroit area, eastern San Diego County has been a major resettling spot for Iraqi immigrants.

?We are not going to allow Father Noel to go to slaughter. He will be killed if he returns to Iraq,? said Minority humanitarian Foundation president, Mark Arabo.

In hopes of overturning Sako's order, supporters of Gorgis and the other priests appealed to the Pope. Though not strictly part of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome, Pope Francis weighed in. A letter written with the authority of the Pope by a church official asserted that Gorgis and the others need not accede to Sako's demand.

Sako issued a statement that, in effect, said he did not acknowledge the Pope's authority to overturn his order that the priests return to Iraq.

?For him to be used as a pawn during this power struggle is heartbreaking. We will not lose Father Noel,? said Arabo.

Arabo said they are looking at taking legal action in order to keep Gorgis at the church, but for now, the priest will step down starting on July 15.

 
Barshie, sorry not sure what offended you about calling him Ashur Soro? Sorry but he is no longer Mar Bawe.

ASHOOR
 
If he wasn't so anti-Assyrian, I would probably side with him. He has been in the US for 26 years! That is long enough for the patriarch (Sako) to let him go and not pressure him to go back.

But since he is in the most anti-Sako Chaldean dioceses (San Diego) , Louis Sako is taking it personally and is insisting on fighting to the last drop.

BTW, in a recent article, Noel Gorgis has hinted that his church (San Diego parish) may split from the moth Chaldean church in Baghdad. And this is something I talked about long time ago on this website. Not sure if this is possible anymore, especially with Sarhad Jammo no longer there. But you never know with Noel and his rebellious character.

ASHOOR
 
I have been hearing that they want to split away the whole diocese from the CCC, or get as much as they can from it and split it to move into the Roman Catholic Church. However, I seriously doubt that they will succeed.
 
ASHOOR said:
If he wasn't so anti-Assyrian, I would probably side with him. He has been in the US for 26 years! That is long enough for the patriarch (Sako) to let him go and not pressure him to go back.

But since he is in the most anti-Sako Chaldean dioceses (San Diego) , Louis Sako is taking it personally and is insisting on fighting to the last drop.

BTW, in a recent article, Noel Gorgis has hinted that his church (San Diego parish) may split from the moth Chaldean church in Baghdad. And this is something I talked about long time ago on this website. Not sure if this is possible anymore, especially with Sarhad Jammo no longer there. But you never know with Noel and his rebellious character.

ASHOOR

interestingly i have to ask this ASHOOR. What do they even stand to gain from being anti-Assyrian?

If we were united, both in church and outside, we would have a very strong political influence but dividing us just makes us weaker.

How are they so blind not to see this?
 
What stands to be gained from the radicalism? Isolation feeds paranoia and tomfoolery veils vituperation, the Parishioners live in a bubble and people (like the former Abuna Noel Gorgis) superglue that bubble even further...
 
ASHOOR said:
may split from the moth Chaldean church in Baghdad.

ASHOOR


o yey more division!!

Why do you guys care so much? lol, you're all from the ACOE i'm the only one here that's from the Chaldean church. Let them do what they want, they are a lost cause.
 
Assyrian Nationalist said:
o yey more division!!

Why do you guys care so much? lol, you're all from the ACOE i'm the only one here that's from the Chaldean church. Let them do what they want, they are a lost cause.

Because we genuinely care about our people?
 
mrzurnaci said:
Because we genuinely care about our people?

Majority of them don't even want to associate with you, truss me my childhood was revolved around the Chaldean community in Canada and Detroit until I moved to Australia.
 
Assyrian Nationalist said:
Majority of them don't even want to associate with you, truss me my childhood was revolved around the Chaldean community in Canada and Detroit until I moved to Australia.

they'll disappear then if they don't unite.
 
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