Fight over khigga in Sydney leads to violent injuries and arrests

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Evin Agassi and Sargon Gabriel were the singers of the night at Nineveh Club reception. The party was actually going well. Unfortunately though, at the end of the occasion, a bloody altercation occurred over the khigga lead. It went so bad that they violently started to throw bottles and even knives at each other. Women and children were screaming, with kids holding tight to their parents.

One woman, who is not part of the fight, got a bad bruise on her shoulder for getting violently shoved (she was trying to escape). She posted a photo of her injured shoulder on Facebook, where she went to say that "over 50 years in this country I've never experience such viciousness in our people". There were trails of blood all over the dance floor, and also in the parking area. One of the savages involved in the fight threw his anger out on a car, purposefully damaging it. Thankfully, the cops were called. And arrests were made.

Very disgusted. Assyrians in Sydney have never stooped this low. Mind you, this information is from Facebook posts. The media hasn't made a story on this - Thank goodness, actually - We don't want our name tarnished.
 
Apparently it was a fight between Iraqi & Syrian Assyrians over who should lead khigga.

And we want a country with this mentality...
 
Bronit Omta said:
Apparently it was a fight between Iraqi & Syrian Assyrians over who should lead khigga.

And we want a country with this mentality...
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I did hear about Syrian Assyrians being involved (worse even, being the perpetrators), but I didn't want to jump into controversial conclusions.

I agree and disagree here. People usually fight over the most trivial things. It's human nature. We do it over a remote control Lol. But I get your point. So they didn't do it in the name of our identity. They did it in the name of their home countries, as you say. That's even more disgraceful. Heck, even a fight between millets would've made more sense in comparison. But your home Arab countries? FFS...

My father told me that this was all because of Sargon Gabriel. He's the type who would attract the rowdy revelers and party animals, considering his music style. And that if it were just Evin Agassi singing, these loud malicious ones wouldn't have come. I agree with that, btw. :mrgreen:
 
Bronit Omta said:
Apparently it was a fight between Iraqi & Syrian Assyrians over who should lead khigga.

And we want a country with this mentality...
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The occasional fight over stupid stuff isn't anything that will affect our ability as a nation...
 
Assyrian Nationalist said:
Jesus.... I thought you were talking about 'dlasthr' for a second or another Assyrian gang.. ****..
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Since when do gang members fight over khigga? Lol
 
Disgusting, disheartening and infuriating. We were being commended by members of parliament for our beautiful assimilation into this country and  the cultural enrichment and peace we've provided to Australia but this thing has to happen. For shame.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
Disgusting, disheartening and infuriating. We were being commended by members of parliament for our beautiful assimilation into this country and  the cultural enrichment and peace we've provided to Australia but this thing has to happen. For shame.
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Be thankful and relieved that this incident wasn't covered by any media sources, though.

But then again, we always have Fairfield Advance and Champion. Let's hope they won't include a story on the brawl in their next issue. 
 
Unfortunately, separatism still exists within us. Bloody hell, we still have political parties which promote and advance separatism. There was separatism dividing Syrian and Iraqi Assyrians in Chicago in the 70?s and 80?s and total integration still has not happened totally. There are events held by the ANCI which are definitely Syrian in every sense and there are churches dominated by Iraqis in Chicago. Meanwhile, Los Angeles has had a deep history of conflict between Iranian and Iraqi Assyrians going back to the 80?s and 90?s, and integration has thankfully set in, it is still far from complete as most Generation Xers who run churches and institutions still have that mindset, and I know for a fact that at least a portion of millennials still think that way but just don?t feel comfortable sharing their views the way, for example, Baby Boomers would have openly criticized the other camp fifteen or twenty years ago and going back. Generation Xers do not openly speak vitriol but have used enough code words and indirect rhetoric to reveal how deep separatism runs even though there is thankfully a large minority of Generation Xers who have rejected separatism although most go back to being the children of the peacemaking Baby Boomers who were not part of what was sadly an overwhelming majority back then.
 
Kosovo1389 said:
Unfortunately, separatism still exists within us. Bloody hell, we still have political parties which promote and advance separatism. There was separatism dividing Syrian and Iraqi Assyrians in Chicago in the 70?s and 80?s and total integration still has not happened totally. There are events held by the ANCI which are definitely Syrian in every sense and there are churches dominated by Iraqis in Chicago. Meanwhile, Los Angeles has had a deep history of conflict between Iranian and Iraqi Assyrians going back to the 80?s and 90?s, and integration has thankfully set in, it is still far from complete as most Generation Xers who run churches and institutions still have that mindset, and I know for a fact that at least a portion of millennials still think that way but just don?t feel comfortable sharing their views the way, for example, Baby Boomers would have openly criticized the other camp fifteen or twenty years ago and going back. Generation Xers do not openly speak vitriol but have used enough code words and indirect rhetoric to reveal how deep separatism runs even though there is thankfully a large minority of Generation Xers who have rejected separatism although most go back to being the children of the peacemaking Baby Boomers who were not part of what was sadly an overwhelming majority back then.
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Well said. First millets, now nationalities (which is worse). Just pathetic.

More information on the incident came in - A man who tried to stop the fight was battered on the head by chairs being thrown at him. He is okay though. Btw, both the man and the injured woman are family friends. We will keep in touch with them and wish them well.

From what I heard, Syrian Assyrians started it ("hey, we're taking the khigga lead!"). The Iraqis stubbornly resisted ("no, step aside"). I'm sure there is more to that. But we'll wait wait for more updates.

mrzurnaci said:
can I ask how old these guys were?
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Good question. I'll try asking the poor woman who got injured (she is a FB friend). She has been vocal about the incident and she might tell me.

I'm willing to bet that they were around 25-30 year olds.

P.S. My parents were so close to going. My mum was begging dad to take her. But he wasn't in the mood. I was like to her "mum, I'll go with you". She thought about it and since time flies so fast, it was already Saturday night. Thank god none of us attended the ill-fated party. My sister could've gone too, and she has a 1 year old.  :embarrassed:
 
Basically the Syrian Assyrians said to the Iraqi Assyrians "You guys aren't men, you fled your country while we were forced out."

Basically meaning that they're such "gabbareh" that they should be leading the khigga.

I find Iranian Assyrians the most annoying and tend to be the most stuck up. It's funny because I'm an Assyrian from Iran.
 
Bronit Omta said:
Basically the Syrian Assyrians said to the Iraqi Assyrians "You guys aren't men, you fled your country while we were forced out."

Basically meaning that they're such "gabbareh" that they should be leading the khigga.

I find Iranian Assyrians the most annoying and tend to be the most stuck up. It's funny because I'm an Assyrian from Iran.
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Syrian Assyrians take khigga very seriously from what I heard. In my experience, they seem to have the most Islamic mindset, after Chaldeans. If more and more of them act as malicious and despicable as these khigga warriors then they should stay in their hellhole country for all I care. Seriously, they are in a civilized country. They should stop acting like Syrian immigrants already. :bangin:

Iranian Assyrians are just stuck up. And that's it. Lol. They don't harm people or make trouble. They're actually the most pacifying and serene Assyrians around. ;)
 
Neon said:
Syrian Assyrians take khigga very seriously from what I heard. In my experience, they seem to have the most Islamic mindset, after Chaldeans. If more and more of them act as malicious and despicable as these khigga warriors then they should stay in their hellhole country for all I care. Seriously, they are in a civilized country. They should stop acting like Syrian immigrants already. :bangin:

Iranian Assyrians are just stuck up. And that's it. Lol. They don't harm people or make trouble. They're actually the most pacifying and serene Assyrians around. ;)
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There's keyboard warriors then there's khigga warriors ( ?? ?? ??)
 
I think we're making a bigger deal out of this than it really is.

These guys that took part in this fight don't care or participate in preserving and growing ourselves.

Assuming these guys are recent immigrants, they still have the poisonous mindset within the middle East of "every man for himself" even though it's not a constructive mindset, this is what they grew up learning.

 
I strongly doubt that these guys fought over whether they were from Syria or Iraq - that very notion sounds absurd as I see no pertinent motive. Using common sense, I would safely guess that there was some tension between just two men who just happened to be from Iraq and Syria and whose friends/family happened to be from Iraq and Syria respectively. You can imagine that when their friends rush in to aid them, it looks like a fight between Iraqis and Syrians but that's misleading.

Out of experience, this is the most likely scenario although I wasn't there so I've no certainty.
 
mrzurnaci said:
I think we're making a bigger deal out of this than it really is.

These guys that took part in this fight don't care or participate in preserving and growing ourselves.

Assuming these guys are recent immigrants, they still have the poisonous mindset within the middle East of "every man for himself" even though it's not a constructive mindset, this is what they grew up learning.
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True and true. :)

Sharukinu said:
I strongly doubt that these guys fought over whether they were from Syria or Iraq - that very notion sounds absurd as I see no pertinent motive. Using common sense, I would safely guess that there was some tension between just two men who just happened to be from Iraq and Syria and whose friends/family happened to be from Iraq and Syria respectively. You can imagine that when their friends rush in to aid them, it looks like a fight between Iraqis and Syrians but that's misleading.

Out of experience, this is the most likely scenario although I wasn't there so I've no certainty.
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I hope you're right. And you might as well could be. They just happened to be Iraqi and Syrian, and that this wasn't the sole reason to start a fight. Not to mention, when people get mad, they always bring up roots, nationality and personality as ad hominems to bring each other down psychologically. So this became convenient for the fight.

With that being said though, Assyrians from Syria can always be influenced by other Syrians (who tend to be more hostile than other Arabs in my experience), since they grew around them (Mrzurnaci made a point up there). Same thing could be said about Assyrians from Iran and those from Iraq. We will always somehow be influenced by those we lived around with. Btw, Assyrians from Lebanon tend to be outgoing, carefree and merry. Why? Because ethnic Lebanese people are usually that way.  :)
 
The men involved in the fight made an apology video. It was three of them. The youngest was in his early 20s and the oldest was in his early 30s.

The three videos were on the Nineveh Club Facebook page. But they have since been removed. :/
 
Neon said:
The men involved in the fight made an apology video. It was three of them. The youngest was in his early 20s and the oldest was in his early 30s.

The three videos were on the Nineveh Club Facebook page. But they have since been removed. :/
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why remove an apology? At least we know they took responsibility for their (immature) actions.

Like I said before, we made a big deal out of this than it really was.
 
mrzurnaci said:
why remove an apology? At least we know they took responsibility for their (immature) actions.

Like I said before, we made a big deal out of this than it really was.
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No idea. Perhaps to protect and lighten their tarnished image? So we don't remember them as "those guys"?

But yeah, very stupid to remove the videos. They apologized and it was heartfelt. People forgave them. There were no heated arguments and people lambasting them.
 
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