Fall of the Assad regime: future of Syria

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It’s heartbreaking to witness Syria’s tragic descent into chaos once again. The situation, already so complex, seems to be spiraling out of control. Just recently, Syrian rebels, led by the Islamist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, launched a surprise offensive and took control of Aleppo, the country’s second-largest city. It feels like a painful echo of the horrors from 2011 to 2018, when Syria was torn apart by a brutal civil war that left scars on the nation that are still deeply felt today.

In response, we are once again seeing Syrian and Russian forces conducting airstrikes on rebel positions, the same devastating cycle of violence that has already caused so much destruction. The fighting has led to countless lives lost and forced thousands more from their homes, adding to the immense suffering of a population that has already endured so much. The Syrian government, under President Bashar al-Assad, remains determined to crush the rebels and retain control, but it’s hard not to feel that, despite everything, the country is slipping further into darkness. This relentless cycle of war and pain feels all too familiar, and the toll it continues to take on the people of Syria is nothing short of tragic.

Of course, there are other external hands behind this whole thing: how can things blow out of nowhere and a whole region gets taken over without much fighting from government forces. I feel and fear for Assyrians and Christians in general in Syria, as these Islamist rebels will likely not be too kind to them, their churches etc. One big player is Turkey of course, who want nothing than to bring down the Assad regime and establish a proxy region in the country, to prevent Kurds there from ever daring to establish their own state, should the country falls and gets divided. Look at this picture I came across online of a Turkish flag being draped over the citadel of Aleppo.

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Then you have the Kurdish part to this, where I have already seen Kurdish women (likely fighters) being captured by Islamist forces, being put on back of trucks and humiliated. Of course, although they are usually fighting against these Islamist rebels, they are no angels either, as they are also against the Assad regime and only care for their own interests and maybe to one day separate and declare their own state. Not to mention, they have often mistreated Assyrians in areas where the two co-live.
 
Is it a co-incidence that this started the moment Israel accepted a ceasefire deal with Hezbollah? I don't think so. ISIS=HTS=Al Qaeda= Israeli Defence Force. Whilst the Israelis are resting , they have their proxies at work. With disorder in Syria, Iran and Hezbollah will have priorities away from Israel. Iran will find it more difficult to get their weapons to Hezbollah. I can't believe anyone in this day and age still thinks Israelis are innocent and not behind these terrorists. Israel is the only nation and only group in the world with anything to gain from this situation. Nobody else! Their country was established by terrorism (look up bombing of King David Hotel in 1946) with terror gangs such as Irgun and Haganah.
 
Is it a co-incidence that this started the moment Israel accepted a ceasefire deal with Hezbollah? I don't think so. ISIS=HTS=Al Qaeda= Israeli Defence Force. Whilst the Israelis are resting , they have their proxies at work. With disorder in Syria, Iran and Hezbollah will have priorities away from Israel. Iran will find it more difficult to get their weapons to Hezbollah. I can't believe anyone in this day and age still thinks Israelis are innocent and not behind these terrorists. Israel is the only nation and only group in the world with anything to gain from this situation. Nobody else! Their country was established by terrorism (look up bombing of King David Hotel in 1946) with terror gangs such as Irgun and Haganah.
Honestly as soon as I saw your name in this thread I knew you'd bring up Israel. So Israel has terrorist groups (even though both groups you mentioned have been defunct since the 1940s)? Shocking. The US has Proud Boys, which are active, and are designated as a terrorist groups by a few countries. So America is a terrible country as well. All countries started with violence and bloodshed btw (maybe besides Switzerland). And most countries today have terrorist organizations. But you know clearly well which ones affect the world so much.

FYI, ISIS and Al Qaeda are no different to Hamas and Hezbollah - They are all terrorists who claim to be resistance against occupying powers (with ISIS it was the filthy, infidel Westerners invading Iraq). You only truly hate terrorists when they spawn in Iraq and Syria (whereby you associate them with Israel, conveniently so). But terrorists in Palestine are all of a sudden miskineh "resistance" against Israel. Um, okay. Btw, Bibi did fund Hamas (not advertently so -- he thought by propping them up maybe they'd be civilized enough to build and govern their land, but he was too naïve).

But man, Israelis/Jews are so lucky that y'all think they're this smart and intelligent, having control over everything. It's true they say antisemites think Jews are either savants behind everything or dumb subhumans with small brains, or they're too assimilated/integrated or too unassimilated. Your mindset proves this theory right.

Fact check: ISIS and Al Qaeda have nothing to do with Israel khonko. They're brutal Islamic caliphates. It's sad for you, but it's true. Hamas is actually more "interconnected" and there is some grounds to say some propping and funding from both US and Israel have been supplied to them. If you wanna blame Israel, then do it khacha right.
 
One big player is Turkey of course, who want nothing than to bring down the Assad regime and establish a proxy region in the country, to prevent Kurds there from ever daring to establish their own state, should the country falls and gets divided. Look at this picture I came across online of a Turkish flag being draped over the citadel of Aleppo.

Then you have the Kurdish part to this, where I have already seen Kurdish women (likely fighters) being captured by Islamist forces, being put on back of trucks and humiliated.
Of course, although they are usually fighting against these Islamist rebels, they are no angels either, as they are also against the Assad regime and only care for their own interests and maybe to one day separate and declare their own state. Not to mention, they have often mistreated Assyrians in areas where the two co-live.
Man, this is like a bigger fish eating smaller predators (considering that we have been preys of Kurds). But honestly, so much shit has been happening to the Kurds recently and I'm feeling bad for them zhareh. I think Assyrians as a whole should set our Kurdish hatred aside, and instead focus on the stronger, more brutal occupying power: Turkish government. Our common enemy.

But it's funny how Turks and Kurds don't get along when they're both not just Muslims and similar in culture, but are Sunnis. But this is just to show you that even the Muslim world doesn't get along with each other. And yet of course they'd blame the Jews for that as well.
 
Honestly as soon as I saw your name in this thread I knew you'd bring up Israel. So Israel has terrorist groups (even though both groups you mentioned have been defunct since the 1940s)? Shocking. The US has Proud Boys, which are active, and are designated as a terrorist groups by a few countries. So America is a terrible country as well. All countries started with violence and bloodshed btw (maybe besides Switzerland). And most countries today have terrorist organizations. But you know clearly well which ones affect the world so much.

FYI, ISIS and Al Qaeda are no different to Hamas and Hezbollah - They are all terrorists who claim to be resistance against occupying powers (with ISIS it was the filthy, infidel Westerners invading Iraq). You only truly hate terrorists when they spawn in Iraq and Syria (whereby you associate them with Israel, conveniently so). But terrorists in Palestine are all of a sudden miskineh "resistance" against Israel. Um, okay. Btw, Bibi did fund Hamas (not advertently so -- he thought by propping them up maybe they'd be civilized enough to build and govern their land, but he was too naïve).

But man, Israelis/Jews are so lucky that y'all think they're this smart and intelligent, having control over everything. It's true they say antisemites think Jews are either savants behind everything or dumb subhumans with small brains, or they're too assimilated/integrated or too unassimilated. Your mindset proves this theory right.

Fact check: ISIS and Al Qaeda have nothing to do with Israel khonko. They're brutal Islamic caliphates. It's sad for you, but it's true. Hamas is actually more "interconnected" and there is some grounds to say some propping and funding from both US and Israel have been supplied to them. If you wanna blame Israel, then do it khacha right.
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Let me get this right.

I can either get my information from educated people like Norman Finklestein (Jewish) and Jeffrey Sachs (Jewish) and analysts who know their stuff like Scott Ritter and Douglas MacGregor, or believe the words of a person who works in an Israeli hasbara farm because that is the only job they are qualified to do.

ISIS and Al Qaeda are the same as Hezbollah and Hamas? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Hezbollah is fighting against HTS as we speak you Israeli hasbarist! Protecting Lebanon and Syria. Israel only wants to destroy Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Eretz Israel is the goal, though you deny that is even a Zionist agenda because you don't want to expose your employers.

I hope you watched the interview between Piers Morgan and Dan Bilzerian. Not that I put Dan Bilzerian on the same pedestal as the ones I mentioned above, but he says it exactly how it is but not afraid to say it. Piers Morgan had to delete the interview because all the comments were praising Bilzerian and NOBODY saying anything the other way, shaming several Israeli YouTube bloggers who spent 20 minutes looking for a single comment to support their hasbara!

ISIS and Al Qaeda are the same as Hezbollah and Hamas? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Although Bashar Al-Assad has shown remarkable resilience, surviving multiple near-collapses of his regime, all indications suggest that his government—and the entire country—are on the verge of falling, possibly within the next 24 hours. Entire army units are surrendering, and some have even crossed into Iraq with their military trucks after abandoning the fight.

Even more alarming is the discussion around partitioning the country. A potential Kurdish state could emerge in the northeast, while the Sunni majority might control a significant central portion. Meanwhile, a new non-Arab state, composed of Druze, Christians, and other minority groups, is being considered for the southwest, near the border with Israel. But do we all think that Turkey will allow and tolerate a Kurdish state to form at its footstep???

And of course, after their numbers had already dwindled back in 2013-2015, following the ISIS invasion of the Khabour region, our Assyrian people will likely lose even more of what little they had left.


Interesting and scary days ahead.....
 
BTW, saw footage of Syrians in Turkey and other European countries, celebrating the imminent fall of the Baath regime. The question is, since majority of those left because of him, how many will return, should it collapse as expected,
 
It is very sad to see what is happening. I was talking to my uncle today who is (or should I say was) Pro-Putin. He said, with USA abandoning Afghanistan and Russia abandoning Syria, who can anybody trust in this crazy world? I agree with him. I am disappointed in Putin, who as most regulars here know, I have always admired. Though you must look at the reasons why Putin was stretched in the first place. The same person that unleashed ISIS upon Syria 10 years ago was the same bastard who led the coup to oust the democratically elected president of Ukraine, starting the mess that has existed since 2014. I am of course talking about Barack Obama. Joe Biden simply continued what Obama started. I will never forgive nor forget these 2 sons of whores (excuse my language).

Syria's allies have either been weakened by Ukraine or Israel and when the insurgents started their rampage, nobody was there to help Syria. Syria which has largely been a secular state is in massive danger of being an Islamic theocracy, ironically the same as Iran which was Syria's ally. The leadership of HTS has said that they have cut ties with Al-Qaeda and that they will treat minorities with respect with no reprisals. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister stated that the proof in the pudding is in the eating of it.

As much as I am disappointed in Russia and critical of Israel for their roles in this mess, I need to point out the world's most two-faced president. Erdogan of Turkey. For over a year, he said he would invade Israel if they didn't get out of Gaza. Yet as soon as there was a ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel, the world's most two-faced leader led the charge with these "rebels", destabilising Syria so much that it is now impossible for the Iranians to send their weapons by land to Hezbollah. Exactly whose side is he on? Palestine or Israel? Once again, I am disappointed in Putin for allowing himself to be fooled by this pathetic two-faced brona d'qahba. He says all the things that endear him to the Turkish population but zero actions to support his words. What was Putin (and the Iranian government) thinking by trusting him?

With Israel already violating the ceasefire agreement, Hezbollah will be zero match for Israel who have once again, outsmarted their opponent. For Israel to agree to a ceasefire, there had to be a catch. That war is going to explode and it will be Lebanon that will be the next West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza. Mark my words, you heard it here first.
 
This is the Fate of every Tyrant & Dictator. Assad & Saddam go back a long way, both from the same miserable pan-Arabic party that has destroyed the lives of millions including many Assyrians.

Sadly, Assad's replacements are not much better. Its going to turn Syria into a Talaban Style rule- I just can't believe America & Israel allowed it to happen, there is nothing positive about a Sunni Islamic State that is ruled by al-Qaeda based Government.

Christians & Assyrians in Syria will suffer. I know Assad was a good protector for them but anyone who opposed him faced the same fate.
 
This is the Fate of every Tyrant & Dictator. Assad & Saddam go back a long way, both from the same miserable pan-Arabic party that has destroyed the lives of millions including many Assyrians.

Sadly, Assad's replacements are not much better. Its going to turn Syria into a Talaban Style rule- I just can't believe America & Israel allowed it to happen, there is nothing positive about a Sunni Islamic State that is ruled by al-Qaeda based Government.

Christians & Assyrians in Syria will suffer. I know Assad was a good protector for them but anyone who opposed him faced the same fate.
Good to see you back.

As to the point that I highlighted, it is very believable because those 2 nations will support anything that will lead to disorder in the middle east. It is the greatest protection for Israel there is, therefore Israel will definitely endorse such a thing. As I type this, Israel has already bombed several strategic arms depots and have already violated a UN ceasefire that was enacted in 1974. With Syria about to descend into a civil war once again, it weakens Iran and Hezbollah which again, only one nation benefits from this.
 
Right on queue, Israel enters Syria along with backstabbers Turkey, still pretending that they are opposed to each other.
 
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Let me get this right.

I can either get my information from educated people like Norman Finklestein (Jewish) and Jeffrey Sachs (Jewish) and analysts who know their stuff like Scott Ritter and Douglas MacGregor, or believe the words of a person who works in an Israeli hasbara farm because that is the only job they are qualified to do.

ISIS and Al Qaeda are the same as Hezbollah and Hamas? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Hezbollah is fighting against HTS as we speak you Israeli hasbarist! Protecting Lebanon and Syria. Israel only wants to destroy Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Eretz Israel is the goal, though you deny that is even a Zionist agenda because you don't want to expose your employers.

I hope you watched the interview between Piers Morgan and Dan Bilzerian. Not that I put Dan Bilzerian on the same pedestal as the ones I mentioned above, but he says it exactly how it is but not afraid to say it. Piers Morgan had to delete the interview because all the comments were praising Bilzerian and NOBODY saying anything the other way, shaming several Israeli YouTube bloggers who spent 20 minutes looking for a single comment to support their hasbara!

ISIS and Al Qaeda are the same as Hezbollah and Hamas? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Not too familiar with Sachs, but Finklestein is just as biased as Douglas Murray. Everything Israel does is "bad". The guy even lowkey cheered the October 7 attacks (“warms every fiber of my soul"). Both sides get paid to say their pro and anti Israel propaganda. Let's be real here.

ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and Hamas are all different ingredients that make up the same cake. Sure, one may be worse than the other, but they're all horrific terrorist groups. I find it sickening that you're defending Hezbollah, as an Assyrian Christian that you are, since Lebanese Christians cannot stand them (and they're not pro Israeli btw, not all of them). You can actually be against both Hezb and Israel. I've found Christians in Lebanon lamenting about both Israel and Hezbollah. Bunch of hasbarists!

I watched Morgan's interview with Bilzerian. Just as I am a secret hasbarist as you put it, he is a Muslim in disguise to the core. He blamed everything on Jews and Israel. Like, come on. He made Finklestein look like an Israeli nationalist. The guy was hella overboard and just ridiculous. 😂 Now some criticism of Israel is fine, but Dan qam awedla pakhta. But think about a Dan Bilzerian-esque fella saying all this about Assyrians. How would you feel?

Oh, yeah, the comments on Piers Morgan Israel-Hamas videos are 99% pro-Palestine. It's not just on Dan's video. Kheena England is filled with Paki Muslims, and he attracts these people and the brainless SJWs wokies that you don't like.

Hamas is far worse than Hezbollah I give you that. I find it really disconcerting that you are defending Hamas as well. They don't just hate Jews and Israelis, they will hate you and me too. 😑🙄
 
La bassa hasbara? Seriously, HTS (formerly part of Al-Qaeda has paved the way for Israel and Turkey to do their dirty work. Even biased mainstream media cannot ignore who benefited the most from HTS's actions. Now you deny this? You take hasbaraism to the next level.
 
La bassa hasbara? Seriously, HTS (formerly part of Al-Qaeda has paved the way for Israel and Turkey to do their dirty work. Even biased mainstream media cannot ignore who benefited the most from HTS's actions. Now you deny this? You take hasbaraism to the next level.
Lol hasbara (I like that word now). Look, there are many Syrian military organizations in that small country, to the point of pakhoota. Some work with each other, and others are enemies. It's nauseating...

I do not deny that Bibi/Israel has funded Hamas in some ways (it's complicated, but I can give you that -- Odd you didn't respond to this claim, which is actually somewhat mainstream). But I won't go overboard and say Israel, ISIS and Al Qaeda are best friends. Like why? Cos they haven't really attacked Israel in the past? Yeah their main targets are Christians, the US/west and even other Muslims. But Jews/Israel are still enemies (just not their main ones - Yeni not all Muslims have to target just Jews, but this doesn't mean they're best friends now, neekha khacha)...


Oh and Turkey? Yalla man, Turkey loathes Israel. As for Erdogan, do you really want him to invade Israel (something you alluded to earlier)? Why should that happen? You're against violence and conflicts, but this will be catastrophic, and it might even spillover on our homeland. If Israel retaliates after Turkey's invasion and kills 40,000 Turks, you wouldn't like it (who would actually). Basa nasha. Lmao
 
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For as long as I remember, Turkey has threatened Israel. More to the point, Erdogan has threatened Israel. After all these years of threats, not a single Israeli has so much as broken a finger nail due to a Turk. Erdogan is full of it. Just like Barack Obama, all talk and no action. I hope the 2 have a war. 2 sets of toxic khmare can weaken each other out. Pretty much Israeli tactics that they use throughout the Middle East.

And sorry, I am not taking your words as gospel when real experts say the total opposite to you. You are blinded by this hatred of Muslims and your view is obstructed by that. I am only interested in facts and take emotion out of it (though yes, I did refer to Israelis and Turks as khmare).
 
For as long as I remember, Turkey has threatened Israel. More to the point, Erdogan has threatened Israel. After all these years of threats, not a single Israeli has so much as broken a finger nail due to a Turk. Erdogan is full of it. Just like Barack Obama, all talk and no action. I hope the 2 have a war. 2 sets of toxic khmare can weaken each other out. Pretty much Israeli tactics that they use throughout the Middle East.

And sorry, I am not taking your words as gospel when real experts say the total opposite to you. You are blinded by this hatred of Muslims and your view is obstructed by that. I am only interested in facts and take emotion out of it (though yes, I did refer to Israelis and Turks as khmare).
About the Turkey fighting Israel it will be catastrophic, even for us. Kurds in northern Iraq might join forces with Israel and attack Turkey (since they're allies with Israel). It will set a chain reaction where Turkey will end up bombing Iraqi Kurdistan, with many Assyrian casualties. So be careful what you wish for.

I'm not a fan of some Muslims, mass Muslim immigration and I detest Islam (like many normal Assyrians to your surprise). But I'm not blinded by any hatred and I don't mind Muslims as individuals (I treat everyone with respect). The Saudi guy who rammed his vehicle into pedestrians in Germany was an ex-Muslim, but my fellow anti-Islamists still argued that he was a Muslim in disguise. I think he was a complicated case.

If anything, I think you're way more intensely antagonistic towards Israel and hudayeh. You use conspiracy theories and blame them for a lot of things, including for being the creators of ISIS and Al Qaeda. This is something Muslims claim, funnily. Because, well, ISIS and Al Qaeda also target Muslims a lot, so they have to be Jews kheena la?
 
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