Christian State The Answer To Islamic State Violence?

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Christian State The Answer To Islamic State Violence? Christians In The Middle East Demand Sovereign Nation

A Christian homeland in the Middle East would help protect persecuted Christians fleeing violence from the Islamic State group and other militant threats, a growing group of Christian leaders insist.

Groups such as Philos Project, a pro-Israel group with a stated mission of promoting ?positive Christian engagement in the Middle East,? and In Defense of Christians, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve Christian culture in the Middle East, want U.S. leaders to help them establish a safe zone for Christians in the Middle East, the Christian Broadcasting Network founded by televangelist Pat Robertson reported Friday.

The militant group also known as ISIS has threatened Christians in Syria, Iraq and other regions where it holds territory or its supporters are capable of carrying out lone wolf attacks. Christians in the Middle East make up some of the oldest Christian communities in the world, according to BBC News.

"We all feel the temptation to stay out of it and mind our own business... But minding our business is simply not an option," said Robert Nicholson, president of the Philos Project, during a recent meeting in Washington, D.C. aimed at raising awareness about ISIS' violence against Christians in the Middle East, according to media reports. "Christians in the Middle East will only be safe when they have a protected homeland, a foundation on which to build their shattered society."

The Christian state should be located in the Ninevah Plains region of Iraq, advocates argue. The area has long been home to a dwindling group of Assyrian Christians, people who speak Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus and his disciples, and have been pushed out of Iraq in recent years because of religious discrimination. In all, Iraq has seen its Christian population drop from about 1.5 million before the U.S. invasion to 500,000 people, the Christian Science Monitor reported last year.

"History has shown us various examples of this concept working in practice, of minority peoples under existential threat surviving and thriving by securing territory: Israel, Armenia, Iraqi Kurdistan, even (to a far less satisfactory degree) Native American reservations in the U.S.," Nicholson said.

Joseph Hakim, president of the International Christian Union (ICU), an organization that advocates for the survival of Middle Eastern Christians, has criticized the Obama administration for not doing more to help Christians in the Middle East.

"Christians need a state of their own and an alliance with the US, and Israel. Otherwise, being leaderless and without a military force, Christians have no chance to survive," he told the conservative website, FrontPage Magazine, last year.


Zurnaci's Comment: I do believe it hurts Assyrians as a whole for our state to be referred as a Christian state than Assyria but on the other hand, it can definitely legitimize us and it'd give us a permanent foothold on our land.
 
There once was Lebanon. Without extremely strict immigration laws it's not viable in the long run because muslims would be all over this christian state with their usual tactics.
 
Joe25 said:
There once was Lebanon. Without extremely strict immigration laws it's not viable in the long run because muslims would be all over this christian state with their usual tactics.

having a sovereign state would mean complete control of borders though. My book calls for Assyrians to have a similar immigration policy as Japan's...

Aka very very strict immigration policy.
 
"Christian state"
This is typical western nonsense attempting to divide middle easterners. At least call it an Assyrian state. In an ideal world, Assyrians would join the Iraqi army and have the weight of the entire country's military protecting them in addition to local militias. Any Christian state would be landlocked,which would hurt the economy and potential trade. This will just single out the state for attacks and reduce the amount of assistance the government in Baghdad would be able to provide.
 
Etain said:
"Christian state"
This is typical western nonsense attempting to divide middle easterners. At least call it an Assyrian state. In an ideal world, Assyrians would join the Iraqi army and have the weight of the entire country's military protecting them in addition to local militias. Any Christian state would be landlocked,which would hurt the economy and potential trade. This will just single out the state for attacks and reduce the amount of assistance the government in Baghdad would be able to provide.

it WILL be an Assyrian state. Technically being landlocked wouldn't hurt the economy.

The issue is that we'd have to promote alot of business and air travel for the economy to be good. I mean Japan is water-locked but it would have a bad economy if they didn't purchase materials and form products with it to sell and make a profit.

Secondly, I don't believe we'll actually get a state but rather simply autonomy which is better for both Assyrians and the government in the long run.
 
mrzurnaci said:
it WILL be an Assyrian state. Technically being landlocked wouldn't hurt the economy.

The issue is that we'd have to promote alot of business and air travel for the economy to be good. I mean Japan is water-locked but it would have a bad economy if they didn't purchase materials and form products with it to sell and make a profit.

Secondly, I don't believe we'll actually get a state but rather simply autonomy which is better for both Assyrians and the government in the long run.
I think the biggest priorities(aside from annihilating ISIS dogs) are going to be setting up a basic autonomous government AND making sure it remains out of reach of the Kurds.
 
Etain said:
I think the biggest priorities(aside from annihilating ISIS dogs) are going to be setting up a basic autonomous government AND making sure it remains out of reach of the Kurds.

that's impossible unless we very much remove any political influence Kurds living in the state have. Secondly, we can't allow Kurds to live near the borders considering they'll let in a flood.
 
mrzurnaci said:
that's impossible unless we very much remove any political influence Kurds living in the state have. Secondly, we can't allow Kurds to live near the borders considering they'll let in a flood.
Strong alliance with Baghdad govt and having them jointly enforce borders with Kurdistan
 
Etain said:
Strong alliance with Baghdad govt and having them jointly enforce borders with Kurdistan

I hope I am completely wrong, but I am very sceptical that I Iraqi government (specially Sunni Arabs) will ever allow us to have our own federal region. Otherwise they will "accept and protect us" as Iraqsi ONLY if we dont demand any fedral region. The question will be, is this better if we make an agreement with the Kurds to have a region within their country in the future?
 
KingA said:
I hope I am completely wrong, but I am very sceptical that I Iraqi government (specially Sunni Arabs) will ever allow us to have our own federal region. Otherwise they will "accept and protect us" as Iraqsi ONLY if we dont demand any fedral region. The question will be, is this better if we make an agreement with the Kurds to have a region within their country in the future?

Lets pick our poison. Turks, Kurds, sunni arabs or shia arabs.
 
KingA said:
I hope I am completely wrong, but I am very sceptical that I Iraqi government (specially Sunni Arabs) will ever allow us to have our own federal region. Otherwise they will "accept and protect us" as Iraqsi ONLY if we dont demand any fedral region. The question will be, is this better if we make an agreement with the Kurds to have a region within their country in the future?
Kurds are in expansionist mode right now. Baghdad is looking for allies.
No brainer really
 
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