Brazil’s club partisanship

ASHOOR

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Over the last few days, after watching the shameful loss in Argentina and reading extensively about the game, Facebook’s algorithm has been suggesting all sorts of videos related to Brazil. Many of these are from Brazil itself, and I’m able to understand a lot of the content through Facebook’s auto-captions and other translation tools.



One thing that shocked me while watching these videos—and even more so the commentary—is how much club partisanship exists within Brazilian football. For example, I keep coming across a guy who appears to be a Flamengo fan, praising Wesley’s performance. But if you read the comments, you’ll see fans from other teams arguing that he played poorly and that the stage was too big for him.



I also came across Palmeiras and Santos fans, either praising the performances of former players who once played for their clubs or expressing frustration that one of their own wasn’t selected or given playing time.



I’ve commented before on how everything in football today is viewed through the lens of whether you support Real Madrid/CR7 or Barcelona/Messi. It seems like Brazil has a similar issue, even if we don’t hear about it much in the media. In fact, it may be even worse, given Brazil’s large population and each club’s massive following in its respective region, state, and city.



Having seen all of this, it now makes sense—and is no longer surprising—when I see certain Brazilian clubs refusing to lend out their young players for various youth tournaments. I’ve heard this said before, but it truly seems to be the case that many people in Brazil care more about their favorite clubs than the national team. And this isn’t just a recent phenomenon due to the NT’s struggles—it has almost always been this way.



In other words, proportionally speaking, when compared to Argentina, Brazil may not have the same level of passionate national team support. In fact, if you look at the stands during home games, the crowds seem a bit too quiet to me—it feels more like a concert than a true home game for the national team.
 
You are on a roll with these topics Ashoor!

You are right but Brazilians caring more for their club sides than their national team but you will find that most countries are like that if they have a strong club culture. Even speaking for myself, Western Sydney Wanderers being Asian Champions in 2014 and playing at the Club World Cup meant more to me than Australia winning the Asian Cup of 2015 a few months later.

Palmeiras winning the 1999 Copa America meant more to my great friend Bruno than winning the 1994 and 2002 World Cups combined.

Flamengo winning the Copa America a few years ago was the happiest that my friend Junior had been since Flamengo beat Liverpool in the 1981 Toyota Cup (Brazil having won 2 World Cups and a host of other tournaments).

The best way to think of it is that your club side is your main meal. They play week in and week out and you dedicate all your energy to this team. You form stronger rivalries with your friends and neighbours because of your club allegiances.

In 2006, many Cortinthians fans were upset at the number of Corinthians players who did not make the Brazil world cup squad, meanwhile Paraguay's captain was the Corinthians captain Carlos Gamarra. Guess which country most Corinthians fans supported in 2006?

The national team plays occasionally and therefore they are like a dessert.

In countries that don't have much of a club scene such as Australia in the past, the national team means everything because it is all people have. But when you have a club that you support week in and week out, that is where your energy lies. For Brazilians in particular, qualifying for the world cup is taken for granted and winning it is taken for granted. Countries like Iraq, Canada, Honduras, Ghana who have only experienced it once or twice, it is a bigger obsession than it is for a Brazilian or German.
 
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