Attacks on Churches in Mosul and Baghdad, yet again!
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Coordinated attacks against Christian Churches in Baghdad and Mosul 06.Jan.2008
The targets were three Christian Churches and three convents belonging to religious orders. No deaths have been reported so far but serious damage has been done. Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk: the attacks could be part of a coordinated plan aimed at sending a clear message to the community.
? ?They represent a clear message and are probably part of a coordinated plan? the attacks which took place today, the feast of the Epiphany, against numerous churches and Christian institutions in Iraq. The Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk. Loiuis Sako is convinced of this who confirmed to AsiaNews that the car bombs did not provoke any deaths, but only one injured and material damage. The targets hit in the capital are : the Chaldean Church of St George in the Ghadir quarter, where Patriarch Cardinal Emmanuel III Delly had just finished celebrating mass; a Greek- Melchite Church and a convent of Chaldean sisiters in Zaafraniya. In Mosul, the car bombs targeted the Chaldean Church of St Paul, an orphanage run by the Chaldean sisters in Alnoor and a convent of Domenican nuns in Mosul Aljadida.
Source: AsiaNews
Bomb attacks target four churches in N Iraq 06.Jan.2008
MOSUL, Iraq ? Insurgent groups attacked on Sunday four churches for Iraqi Christian minority in the city of Mosul, the capital of Nineveh province, a provincial police source said.
A car bomb parked near the Maryam al-Adhra? Church northeastern of Mosul detonated, wounding four people and damaging parts of the building, the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.
Another booby-trapped car parked near the Mar Yousif Church in the Muhandiseen neighborhood in northern the city detonated and damaged outer fence and parts of the church, the source said.
In western Mosul, an explosive charge went off in a monastery in the Mosul al-Jadida neighborhood, damaging part of the deserted building without human casualty, he said.
A fourth bomb attack took place in the Meskantah Church in the Khazraj neighborhood in central the city, causing damages in the building, added the source.
The attacks against the Christian minority came as part of the religious and sectarian violence that ravaged the Iraqi cities, including Mosul, some 400 km north of Baghdad.
The targets were three Christian Churches and three convents belonging to religious orders. No deaths have been reported so far but serious damage has been done. Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk: the attacks could be part of a coordinated plan aimed at sending a clear message to the community.
? ?They represent a clear message and are probably part of a coordinated plan? the attacks which took place today, the feast of the Epiphany, against numerous churches and Christian institutions in Iraq. The Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk. Loiuis Sako is convinced of this who confirmed to AsiaNews that the car bombs did not provoke any deaths, but only one injured and material damage. The targets hit in the capital are : the Chaldean Church of St George in the Ghadir quarter, where Patriarch Cardinal Emmanuel III Delly had just finished celebrating mass; a Greek- Melchite Church and a convent of Chaldean sisiters in Zaafraniya. In Mosul, the car bombs targeted the Chaldean Church of St Paul, an orphanage run by the Chaldean sisters in Alnoor and a convent of Domenican nuns in Mosul Aljadida.
Source: AsiaNews
Bomb attacks target four churches in N Iraq 06.Jan.2008
MOSUL, Iraq ? Insurgent groups attacked on Sunday four churches for Iraqi Christian minority in the city of Mosul, the capital of Nineveh province, a provincial police source said.
A car bomb parked near the Maryam al-Adhra? Church northeastern of Mosul detonated, wounding four people and damaging parts of the building, the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.
Another booby-trapped car parked near the Mar Yousif Church in the Muhandiseen neighborhood in northern the city detonated and damaged outer fence and parts of the church, the source said.
In western Mosul, an explosive charge went off in a monastery in the Mosul al-Jadida neighborhood, damaging part of the deserted building without human casualty, he said.
A fourth bomb attack took place in the Meskantah Church in the Khazraj neighborhood in central the city, causing damages in the building, added the source.
The attacks against the Christian minority came as part of the religious and sectarian violence that ravaged the Iraqi cities, including Mosul, some 400 km north of Baghdad.
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Mosul's Chaldean archbishop, Farac Raho, confirmed on the TV channel Ishtar that four churches have been bombed in his hometown. He also stated that the attackers have used both car bombs and explosive charges.
"I'm very upset. That the explosions went off at the same time proves that this was part of a plan. Both our Moslem brothers and we had just celebrated Eid and Christmas at the same time this year and everything went well. But the opposition have never really stopped pointing their weapons at us. Now they must stop attacking Iraq's original people and aim their weapons against their true enemies. Iraq's government must immediately act against violence directed towards us Christians.
I called an Assyrian journalist, who previously lived in Mosul but has now fled to Syria, and asked what he thought about the archbishop's comment.
"He has it completely correct. They tricked the Christians; they let them celebrate Christmas in peace, made them believe that the Islamic community had accepted the birth of Jesus, when it was only so they wouldn't disrupt Eid, their own religious festival. For me this is no surprise. Fundamentalists have decided to drive us to flee once and for all. Instead of aiming their weapons at the Americans they are aiming them at us. This is not the first time. The USA and the rest of the world can no longer close their eyes to this attempt at ethnic and religious cleansing. There is genocide at work in front of the whole world and no one intervenes.
"Do you think that we can really call this genocide?" I asked him carefully.
"What is genocide if not a wiping out, if all the Christians are forced to flee, then they are wiped out, at least from what has been our homeland for more than five thousand years." He answered angrily.
Iskander Bikasha, one of the editors of Ankawa.com, has been in contact with Iraq many times today.
"Many believed that it had become a little safer for non-Moslems in Iraq but now even those who held that hope have begun to waver. It's not just churches that are being bombed but even monasteries and convents. I spoke with one of our correspondents a few minutes ago and he described, amongst other things, a heart-breaking interview he had with a terrified nun.
"It's a war but we are not at war. We are not a part of this war. We carry no weapons. We kill no one. We turn the other cheek. A day doesn't go by without us hearing reports about Assyrians, also called Chaldeans and Syrians, who have been killed."
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"I'm very upset. That the explosions went off at the same time proves that this was part of a plan. Both our Moslem brothers and we had just celebrated Eid and Christmas at the same time this year and everything went well. But the opposition have never really stopped pointing their weapons at us. Now they must stop attacking Iraq's original people and aim their weapons against their true enemies. Iraq's government must immediately act against violence directed towards us Christians.
I called an Assyrian journalist, who previously lived in Mosul but has now fled to Syria, and asked what he thought about the archbishop's comment.
"He has it completely correct. They tricked the Christians; they let them celebrate Christmas in peace, made them believe that the Islamic community had accepted the birth of Jesus, when it was only so they wouldn't disrupt Eid, their own religious festival. For me this is no surprise. Fundamentalists have decided to drive us to flee once and for all. Instead of aiming their weapons at the Americans they are aiming them at us. This is not the first time. The USA and the rest of the world can no longer close their eyes to this attempt at ethnic and religious cleansing. There is genocide at work in front of the whole world and no one intervenes.
"Do you think that we can really call this genocide?" I asked him carefully.
"What is genocide if not a wiping out, if all the Christians are forced to flee, then they are wiped out, at least from what has been our homeland for more than five thousand years." He answered angrily.
Iskander Bikasha, one of the editors of Ankawa.com, has been in contact with Iraq many times today.
"Many believed that it had become a little safer for non-Moslems in Iraq but now even those who held that hope have begun to waver. It's not just churches that are being bombed but even monasteries and convents. I spoke with one of our correspondents a few minutes ago and he described, amongst other things, a heart-breaking interview he had with a terrified nun.
"It's a war but we are not at war. We are not a part of this war. We carry no weapons. We kill no one. We turn the other cheek. A day doesn't go by without us hearing reports about Assyrians, also called Chaldeans and Syrians, who have been killed."
By Nuri Kino
Iraqi_Irani_Al-Farabi
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Islamism is a sick disease.
I wonder what Ron Paul would say about this? I hope that tool does not get the nomination. Actually, he won't, why am I hoping?
Were these Christians attacking Muslims? No one even dare say that they do this because Americans are Christians too.
It's simple. They are not Muslims, so 'leave or convert' is their slogan.
Were these Christians attacking Muslims? No one even dare say that they do this because Americans are Christians too.
It's simple. They are not Muslims, so 'leave or convert' is their slogan.
Enki
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Uncle Paul wouldn't care. He'd be like....its Bush's fault! Get those boys home and let Iraq deal with the mess we made....lol
Ron Paul is more concerned about America first, then worry about the others later. I like that motto. Fix your own house before you can offer to help others.
Ron Paul is more concerned about America first, then worry about the others later. I like that motto. Fix your own house before you can offer to help others.
Free_Assyria
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let me guess its mar dinkha's fault that the churches are attacked?
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:doh:
Free_Assyria
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Aga said:
Its called sarcasm
Moneer
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Take it easy guys? Its ALL about TONY, yes Tony Blair he recently converted to Catholicism. (most attacks if not all were on Chaldean and Syriac Catholic churches).
And Tony ?mate? if you think this will get you to paradise I am sorry...but God Welling...you are going strait to Hell for what you and your friends Saddam and Mr. Bush have done...evil dreams Tony'. :ranting:
And Tony ?mate? if you think this will get you to paradise I am sorry...but God Welling...you are going strait to Hell for what you and your friends Saddam and Mr. Bush have done...evil dreams Tony'. :ranting:
riza o shourba said:
I think the more correct way to describe Libertarians is to say: "Fix your own house and only your house and to hell with the rest of the world. Unless brown people attack again. Then we'll consider doing something. But seriously, forget the rest of the world at all times because states exist as solitary entities and the only time they should interact is out of necessity or to make money."
GodismyJudge
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ojeen1981 said:
Exactly! And there is little you can do. You feel so helpless.
jonadona said:
What does Ron Paul have to do with this and why are you bringing him up out of the blue?
jonadona said:
Yes, it was most likely Muslims attacking Christians. This is a vital part of their religion. This is what the Qur'an mandates in Sura 9:5, 9:29 and 9:111:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.005
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.111
These are passages you cannot ignore as a Muslim and they have been followed religiously in all Islamic ruled societies. The Jizya, for example, has always been in use in Muslim countries up until the last Caliphate, the Ottoman empire, fell in the 20th century. The Jizya tax, is as you can see above, taken from Sura 9:29. You do the math and figure out the rest.
jonadona said:
Of course they are Muslims. These are the real Muslims. Don't fool yourself with nonsense about peaceful Muslims. Violent Jihad is mandatory in Islam. Just because there are peaceful people out there who have a Muslim identity it doesn't mean they are more representative of Islam as a religion. Islam, teaches violence. This is a vital core of Islam. Muhammed, its founder, was a very violent man. Put two and two together and you'll figure it out.
It's time you naive Assyrians wake up from the Leftist indoctrination of a peaceful and moderate Islam. There is no such thing. Get real people, get real.
Iraqi_Irani_Al-Farabi said:
Remove the redundant ism and you're right on the spot.
ojeen1981 said:
Perhaps you understand now why we Assyrians need radical nationalism, fascism, and the entire package. It's not going to get better down there for us, and certainly not with ineffective democracy.
Alucard said:
Ron Paul truly believes that Muslims don't like America because we are in Iraq. He doesn't figure their religion into their ideology. So he believes that removing our troops from Iraq immediately and the entire Arabic world would alter this mentality of hatred for the Americans (West).
It would be a disaster if they left Iraq. If they can at least leave troops in the North, so that the Kurds don't wipe us out over night.
Theoretically, Ron Paul can't even counter such incidents with his believes.
jonadona said:
No, that's not what he believes. That's just what he's saying though. Truth is, he doesn't give a sh1t about Assyrians in Iraq, since we are not Europeans or Americans (meaning, we are irrelevant to him and what happens to us). He wants America to leave Iraq because he knows that the Iraq war is a war entirely pushed by the Israel lobby for the sake of Israel, and not for America. He doesn't really care what the Muslims feel about Americans or Assyrians, because he knows that Muslims cannot do anything to the world's most powerful country anyway. He doesn't care if these Arabs behave like that because of their religion or not, he simply cares about American soldiers coming home safe. Assyrians and other Christians, in Iraq, and the rest of the Middle East, is not his concern.
Between me and you, Jonadona, we Assyrians need to get our sh1t together, establish an Assyrian state through lobbying in the diaspora, and create a safe future for our people. Don't rely on American troops to help us out. We have to clean up our own mess.