Assyrians in Syria

Enki

Enki

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KhIgGaAaAaAa said:
People from syria (khabour) are a different breed lol

I like how the khigga has a buffer zone of at least 10 orzeh before you see a kitcha.  The kitcheh here in the west are pataneh and they shove themselves in front.  The khigga should always be guys in the front, and at parties like this, you need a buffer zone of at least 10 dudes.

You know whats sad though, we can all go over there and pick out wives but then in 50 yrs these parties won't even exist anymore cause all the surayeh are gonna be gone from khabour, mupshemunta!
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Every part of your comment is so true!

When I was in Syria, I can't even tell you how many guys were begging me to find them a wife to get them out of Syria. Everyone wants out. So many families came to me with their daughters (one was 14  :blink: ) thinking I'd probably start to like them and marry them to get them out of Syria.

Really sad, but thats reality guys. There?s absolutely nothing in Syria for them to stay. Khabour is dried up, there are no jobs, the economy is ****ty at best, and there is a lot of resentment towards us because we're Christians. All of those factors play a major role in why they all want to leave.

The only way in my opinion to restore the beauty that the Assyrians of Syria once bestowed upon that filth of a country is to bring investments to them. Same goes for Iraq. We, the outsiders with the money, need to bring that money back into Syria. We need to open manufacturing plants, invest in agriculture, basically throw as much money over there into job creation allowing the Assyrians to self sustain and live on their own rather than countless donations from us to them that are squandered and would need replenishing over and over again.

But yeah....us Soories sure know how to dance! :yourock:
 
riza o shourba said:
Every part of your comment is so true!

When I was in Syria, I can't even tell you how many guys were begging me to find them a wife to get them out of Syria. Everyone wants out. So many families came to me with their daughters (one was 14  :blink: ) thinking I'd probably start to like them and marry them to get them out of Syria.

Really sad, but thats reality guys. There?s absolutely nothing in Syria for them to stay. Khabour is dried up, there are no jobs, the economy is ****ty at best, and there is a lot of resentment towards us because we're Christians. All of those factors play a major role in why they all want to leave.

The only way in my opinion to restore the beauty that the Assyrians of Syria once bestowed upon that filth of a country is to bring investments to them. Same goes for Iraq. We, the outsiders with the money, need to bring that money back into Syria. We need to open manufacturing plants, invest in agriculture, basically throw as much money over there into job creation allowing the Assyrians to self sustain and live on their own rather than countless donations from us to them that are squandered and would need replenishing over and over again.

But yeah....us Soories sure know how to dance! :yourock:
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Sorry we are not Soories.


Thats wrong, assyrians dont have problems with muslims there, they get very good along. And there is enough work, all the people their own alot of lands, they are just lazy to work on them by themselves, they better pay of arabs and kurds and sit on their lazy asses waiting for the money send for them by the diaspora Assyrians.



they even have suppliers who come once a day or few times in the week to seel the villagers bread, vegetables etc.

I mean wow were do you have that in europe, that someone in his pickup drvies throw our village and you just need to get out of your door do buy your stuff.


 
Rumtaya said:
Sorry we are not Soories.


Thats wrong, assyrians dont have problems with muslims there, they get very good along. And there is enough work, all the people their own alot of lands, they are just lazy to work on them by themselves, they better pay of arabs and kurds and sit on their lazy asses waiting for the money send for them by the diaspora Assyrians.



they even have suppliers who come once a day or few times in the week to seel the villagers bread, vegetables etc.

I mean wow were do you have that in europe, that someone in his pickup drvies throw our village and you just need to get out of your door do buy your stuff.
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Correct. There are a lot of lazy Assyrians. Especially from those that really don't care to be there any more. They hope to leave and come to Canada/USA/Australia. Dr. Youkhana (I think is his name) from Tel Tamar was telling me how he sees so many of our youth on the streets with a bottle of liquor and their cell phones; not in school, not working, nothing.

There is a problem though with Muslims. Maybe not to the extent of the problems we're seeing in Iraq. But they're still there. In Qamishly for instance (maybe other parts too not sure) there is a clear segregation between Muslims and Christians. They all have their own quarters (come to think of it, its common throughout Syria). There are problems with the youth. From all the youth I spoke to, I can't even tell you how many of them dislike Muslims and how often there are problems between the two. When I was down there, the Assyrians/Christians all hung out together. I don't think I met one guy friend of theirs that was Muslim.

There are problems. They're at this small stage right now. Later, who knows how far it will grow. Especially after the US/Isreal invasion of Syria.

Shami said:
Anki, Assyrian is Syria are lazy. Yes khabour is not there anymore; yes the economy is not as good as it use to be. But all they do is sit back and wait for help from the west or prostitute their daughters to the west.


Assyrians have lower education compared to the rest of Syrians, they live in Al-jazerah which is high in oil and minerals not only agriculture. It is a bigger picture that the one we are let to see.


Edit: YES I was born in Syria, but I AM ASSYRIAN!
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I think I wrote this once on this forum but my father said when we got to Syria, "The worst thing that ever happened to Tel Makhada was that everyone went out and got an education." Its true in every form. With that education came the migration of the Assyrians from the villages to the urban centres for better jobs and better lives. Its a sad state for the Assyrians now in that region.

They're "lazy" because theres no hope for them. they don't want to live there so they just don't care any more. When you don't care about something you just don't put as much effort (if any at all) into it.

Also, they have a very laid back culture and society over there. I think thats another reason for their laziness.
 
assyrians have problems with muslims

Assyrians there are disgusting, everybody sleeps with everbody yes married not married

Assyrians there are f ucking lazy, they even buy the dolma...women only care about hair & make up.

Assyrians from Syria who live abroad do invest in Syria A LOT!!! ADO has established a few businesses there like bus compagny Izla.

Each Assyrian poor or rich wants to come to the west

my moms family is from syria  :angelnot:

 
Every wedding or party I go to here in Toronto, I see these gino wanna bees, who dance khigga and face each other and do something funny with their legs like they know how to dance, like what r u trying to do impress someone with ur sooo cool dance moves?, when I see them I laugh at them? I don?t know if anyone know wut im talking about. But they do this crip walk or something when dancing khigga  :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Shami said:
Hletho,

True, not as bad as other parts in the Middle East, one good thing the Al-Assad government did was establish a little more right for Christians when compared to neighboring countries.

:lol: ... yes... yes... they think that is the definition of "Liberty" ... I was often told how "I'm not living life to it's potential" :lol:

So true, makeup artists and hair dressers in Syria make more money than doctors, engineers and business men combined.

:lol: Those are the only buses we (my family and I) take around Syria.  :lol:

So true, I can speak from experience that we had a lot in Syria. My family had much more that what we have in Canada. Thank God for everything. But they always seem to have the feeling that what they have is never enough and they are never satisfied. They want more without actually working for it.

Qameshlo? Malkeya? Hassakh?  :shades:
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Damn you rock!!! :yourock:

My mum is from Qameshlo...when she married my father she moved to Tur Abdin.

How about you? but are you Assyrian ( suryoyo) as well?


thank god someone here who isnt from Iraq! :wavetowel:

and....when did you went  to Syria? my last time was in 1989 but my bro will celebrate hab nisson there this year
 
Don't mean to make any difference between the two, because at the end of the day they are both Assyrians: but why do I see this huge difference between Assyrians from Iraq and those in Syria? Assyrians from Iraq are veryyyy hard working, and value education a lot. In fact, education was like scared to us.

I guess what explains the difference is simply the country where each comes from: Iraq (at least before) valued education, business and science a lot. Whereas in Syria, they care more about 'Musalsalat' , 'Bab al-7ara', 'Ragheb Alama' etc...

Assyrians in Syria need to do better with their time. Maybe attend school, or do their own business in these villages?

If anything, let them collect water in buckets and try to fill Khabour with water again.

ASHOOR
 
don't get me wrong lol, Assyrians from Iraq are so much into all this music and TV too, but they still value education too.

Of course, once they come to the west, it is a whole different playng field and things change.

ASHOOR
 
And maybe this is why Assyrians in Syria want to leave, even though they have no war to worry about like Assyrians in Iraq?

Maybe they don't have any incentive to stay. If there are no jobs, businesses, then what will the youth do?

Maybe if expats came back, and invested in the local economy, and provided good jobs for the youth, maybe they wouldn 't want to leave? or maybe if the whole region started created their own little local economy, and create jobs, it would be better? more like Syria's own 'Nineveh Plain' or call it 'Khabour Plain'? Heck, in the long run, and the two regions being close to one another, you could even establish trade agreements between the two.

Sorry I am going away from the original topic. Maybe this deserves its own topic.

ASHOOR
 
Yes sorry Shami, I keep having new thoughts lol, and don't want forget them. Mo othen, I care about my Assyrians in Syria ;)

ASHOOR
 
Shami, find it please: and if it is a whle article, and if Assyria Star can give you permission, I would love to add it to our 'Assyrian Voice Emagazine' section

ASHOOR
 
altough i'm not from syria, (but i do have friends in syria (maloula and sednayah) ) i must defend the assyrians there to some extend

irak vs. syria

1. living as a chrisitan in syria is a little easier, because hafez al assad isn't a real muslim himself. He's alawit/alewit aka nusairi. This religious group is a seperation of the ismailite (which are a seperation of the shia muslims). Assad's strategy was to establish a 100% socialst state which doesn't support any religion at all. That is of course a lie. All he wanted is to strengthen his dictatorchip. He installed his ppl (the alawites) and all other religious minorities, who will not combat his power in any way and co-operate. Short, everything else than sunni muslims, who resemble like 70-75% of syria's population. since christians are a minority aswell, he didn't torture them and the co-operated with him.

2. syrians and assyrians aren't lazy

A few years ago, education in syria didn't make that much of a diffence for its citizens. Why? Well, the country used to be not just politically isolated, however economically aswell. Many ppl told me that's quite possible to find a lawyer or even a pharmacist working as a taxi-driver? So why should they waste their time in a university degree (that's what the ppl thought), if they not gonna find a well paid job as an engineer etc. anyway?...they rather open up a new grocer shop than going to school, at least it can feed their family



3. as far as i know from iraqis (plz correct me if i'm wrong)

life used to be OKAY as an engineer etc. I mean iraq used to be isolated aswell, but life as an educated person was okay. You could afford a car and a house


P.S. last time i visted syria/ lebanon was summer 2007...i'll upload some pics
 
Ashoor i will come back at you...but not now , i am busy...but I DONT AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!


The big difference is , we say : we are Assyrians and

people from Iraq say: We are Iraqies  ooh and after 5 minutes, we are assyrian.

and have a lot of drama with Iraq, supporting all these activities.

we dont care about Syria nor Turkey, we care about Assyria


and i have to leave now.....
 
Very good points Thomas, especially 2 and 3.

But if education is free, and there is nothing to do anyway, why not go for it? you could use it one day when you are out of Syria....

ASHOOR
 
Bratiel hun, we are all Assyrians, but you can't avoid these geographical references. You just can't, because you need to identify who you are talking about.

Every country do it. Even in a country like the USA or Canada, such references exist between provinces and states.

If it wasn't Iraq or Syria, it would be something else.

Who cares, as long as we agree at the end of the day that we are all Assyrians. And we are only here to give suggestions on how to improve the situations for our Assyrians in Syria. Just a as much as we have been doing the same forever for our Assyrians in Iraq.

What applies to Iraq may not apply to Syria, and vise versa. That is why we speak about each one individually. Just like thomas gave these examples about the difference in education between the two countries. It is not the fault of the Assyrians; the system of the country is to blame.

ASHOOR
 
many do nonetheless study...but you don't see them in syria because they leave the country. I heard most of them used to come to canada, sweden or australia where the biggest SYRIAN (not ASSYRIAN) communities are, but not all do have the ambitions to help just like you ashoor...i mean they leave syria have a ordinary job somewhere and have a good life and that's it.

another point about syria is the corruption and bureaucracy...you must bribe a dozen to get what you want
 
yes,it is admirable what our fathers did. my father did the same thing. He left lebanon after his studies and studied again here (germany) and stayed.

btw. the northest part of syria i went was lattakia...i never seen aleppo or even tel tamer

 
Thomas, what part of Lebanon is your father from, and which dialect of Assyrian does he speak?

I wonder, and I keep getting mixed numbers: how many Assyrians still remain in Syria. Could the number be as high as 50,000? or less?

ASHOOR
 
Shami said:
1. Agree

2. NOT TRUE, education right now is worthless in Syria, education 20 years ago was very respected. But education does not only provide you with $ but it also gives you a better chance to excel in other parts, including an opportunity to flee the country if you wish.

I still think Assyrians in Syria lack education, and they don?t even try anymore. Walk the street of tel tamer and ask how many have a post secondary education, or would want to get it. You would be surprised.
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errr isn't that the same or did i just explain something wrong?!... i mean those who do study leave (or try to) and the rest doeasn't bother to study
 
ASHOOR said:
Thomas, what part of Lebanon is your father from, and which dialect of Assyrian does he speak?

I wonder, and I keep getting mixed numbers: how many Assyrians still remain in Syria. Could the number be as high as 50,000? or less?

ASHOOR
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ok i must start with my grandparents. My grandmother is chaldean from alqosh and my grandfather is maronite. my grandfather used to work as a petrol engineer in iraq. So my father was born in baghdad and speaks chaldean or "assyrian with an chaldean accent". Later my grandfather returned to Beirut and died. My family, which is a large lol, lived in Beirut. I hope this helps you ashoor

 
oh well today my family lives in Jounieh which is like the outskirts of beirut...just smaller and calmer...no attacks etc. since it's almost 100% christan
 
yes of course! my fianc?e is from jounieh :)

i am just searching for pics to upload for you guys...without ppl on it lol
 
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