Assyrians attend LGBT pride parade in Sweden

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1405462186147025.1073741926.517699361589983&type=3


I like how Assyrians on FB are crying about 'They are people being persecuted for being Christian, and you are going to LGBT pride parades', if you are sooo devouted why don't you go fight in the middle east like those Assyrian women who are sacrificing their lives for your people, Assyrians are out their and when they do something different the whole crowd attacks them. The comments are disgusting (not all of them), but I expected this.
 
Thanks for sharing these momentous photos. The Assyrians crying against this are ignorantly hypocritical. Little do they know that LGBT people are as badly treated as THEY are in some parts of the world. Just like Assyrians cry for rights in the Middle East, gays do it too and we deserve to protest and showcase our "subculture" just the same way Assyrians, Kurds, etc, have the rights to protest. We're rather similar, ironically, considering how bad we have been treated. So I'm not sure what the hell are they complaining about and why the hell are they spouting false equivalencies and fallacies ("instead of being part of the gay parade, go fight for Iraq" - Tell that to your violent Assyrian youth gangs you mongrels).

P.S. Ramel Oshana is right. Where is ISIS when we have people like him?
 
mrzurnaci said:
*sarcasm* yay less Assyrian women for me to pick a lifetime partner from...
What makes you so sure that the women in the pic are gay? They could be heteros who are gay allies. After all, many (straight) women tend to be for gay's rights and happen to show it off.

I have an inkling that the woman in pink (middle) and the one in light blue shirt (right) are straight who just happen to be gay advocates.

Oh and you should look at the optimistic side of it - More gay men, more likely that you can be with a woman.
 
Middle East Christians have adopted too many modern habits. I suppose it's a small consolation knowing most of them outside of the west are still pretty old school.
 
Etain said:
Middle East Christians have adopted too many modern habits. I suppose it's a small consolation knowing most of them outside of the west are still pretty old school.
I hope you mean that the gay parade is a "modern habit" and not homosexuality itself?
 
Etain said:
Well you said that you find it comforting some Assyrians are still "old-schooled" (which made me think that you affiliated with gays with some sort of a new trend). Just openly say that you're against LGBTs instead of being discreet. Lol.
 
Neon said:
Well you said that you find it comforting some Assyrians are still "old-schooled" (which made me think that you affiliated with gays with some sort of a new trend). Just openly say that you're against LGBTs instead of being discreet. Lol.
I don't hate gay people. I just really don't wanna see this stuff.
 
Neon said:
Pride parades or gay couples holding hands in general? Or both?

gay couples are 100% tolerable but pride parades are bad taste in my opinion. They feel very "rubbing in the face" if you know what I mean.
What would be better is maybe a homosexual FESTIVAL but not parades. I mean what about the idea of straight pride parade? Black or White Pride Parade? Those 3 would instantly be condemned as discriminatory.

I mean what's the purpose of the pride parade? If you're proud of being homosexual, that's fine but don't be PROUD to a point where you become self-righteous.
 
mrzurnaci said:
gay couples are 100% tolerable but pride parades are bad taste in my opinion. They feel very "rubbing in the face" if you know what I mean.
What would be better is maybe a homosexual FESTIVAL but not parades. I mean what about the idea of straight pride parade? Black or White Pride Parade? Those 3 would instantly be condemned as discriminatory.

I mean what's the purpose of the pride parade? If you're proud of being homosexual, that's fine but don't be PROUD to a point where you become self-righteous.
White pride parade would be harshly criticized. But a black pride parade would be applauded and you'll be the racist if you condemn it.
 
ins001 said:
I'm impressed, seems like the Assyrians in Sweden are quite socially progressive

We've always been (pragmatically) progressive, despite living amongst barbarians...
 
Who gives a fuck if they're gay. As long as they support the Assyrian cause then they're my own and I will respect them as so. I don't support gay marriage but I have no problem with gay Assyrians.
 
Bronit Omta said:
Who gives a **** if they're gay. As long as they support the Assyrian cause then they're my own and I will respect them as so. I don't support gay marriage but I have no problem with gay Assyrians.
Do you support gay marriage if it's NOT done in the church?
 
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Do you support gay marriage if it's NOT done in the church?
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Shame, I don't feel it's ever going to happen in Iraq. Neither civilly nor religiously.
It'd be the miracle of the century if they let me grow a mane, snuggle with whomever and not be persecuted for it.  :unsure:
 
Qi?ta said:
Shame, I don't feel it's ever going to happen in Iraq. Neither civilly nor religiously.
It'd be the miracle of the century if they let me grow a mane, snuggle with whomever and not be persecuted for it.  :unsure:
That day when an Assyrian gay couple lavishly enter the wedding reception accompanied with khigga music, loud cheers, yalekhyateh and zurna o dawola. I wonder, will that ever be the norm?

Are you gay btw? :)
 
Neon said:
That day when an Assyrian gay couple lavishly enter the wedding reception accompanied with khigga music, loud cheers, yalekhyateh and zurna o dawola. I wonder, will that ever be the norm?

Are you gay btw? :)

Bi. We were exchanging life stories with the lgbt group of the campus, I got called "privileged" for being able to "attach to a woman" when homosexuality is persecuted. Is that true? Americans are strange.
I didn't feel privileged because falling for a nasha was breaking my heart. :[ The hormones weren't helping much either. :giggle:


 
Qi?ta said:
Bi. We were exchanging life stories with the lgbt group of the campus, I got called "privileged" for being able to "attach to a woman" when homosexuality is persecuted. Is that true? Americans are strange.
I didn't feel privileged because falling for a nasha was breaking my heart. :[ The hormones weren't helping much either. :giggle:
Women usually feel comfortable around us. But why would they call you privileged? Lol.

Yes, being in love can hurt. I'm in love with someone, but he disappoints me.
 
Neon said:
Women usually feel comfortable around us. But why would they call you privileged? Lol.
I don't understand it either. It felt uncomfortable because she said it with the confidence of a fact. Someone in class described it as "the oppression Olympics", but I feel like he was angry while saying that (as in biased). I wasn't about to one-up whatever experiences they had...

I don't think people of developed countries understand the literal risk of death for being who you are.

Yes, being in love can hurt. I'm in love with someone, but he disappoints me.
I completely understand.  :imsorry: With one who couldn't risk breaking the routine of pretense for someone he called habibi. Then again... loom of death is a powerful deterrent. Man and christian and minority, nasha had a lot to gamble with someone like me.  :sadangel:
 
I definitely understand the controversy, and it indeed is warranted. When I think about LGBT Assyrians, they exist and there is acceptance here in Los Angeles and also in San Jose, but these are generally progressive communities which are more secular and hence are desensitized to certain westernized norms which otherwise would be taboo to my parents? generation, in addition to the changes which make my millennial generation almost unrecognizable to their grandparents or even those now arriving from the homeland. LGBT activism and feminism, for example, have become focal points of the millennial run AAASC leadership who are openly liberal, fight homophobia, defend and promote feminism, and reach out to irreligious or secular Assyrians. They claim to be opening the door for the embracing of all Assyrians, regardless of who they are. LGBT people serve, albeit not openly, in the AAASC leadership and are generally unafraid of inviting others into the community and defending them. However, at some point in time, this topic and the faith will come at a crossroads, and either this becomes a religious debate or it becomes a secular debate. I do not know but am interested to know if the AAASC will participate in LA Pride this upcoming June.
 
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