Assyrian man shot dead in Sydney (yet again)

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"The victim, 20-year-old Antonio Hermiz, was shot in the head and killed on Friday afternoon while children played nearby in the popular Lizard Log park in western Sydney. NSW Police are investigating whether the fatal shooting of a man in a Sydney park in broad daylight is gang related. His 18-year-old companion Ronaldo Odisho was shot in the chest and taken to Liverpool hospital where he remains in a stable condition."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-gang-links-to-gutless-fatal-shooting-at-wetherill-park-20161224-gthllb.html

(This happened a few weeks ago, on Christmas Eve, btw. I just didn't know that the guy was an Assyrian at that time, until I read his name and got confirmation from family friends.)
 
we need to annihilate these gangs. I don't care if they are our people. They're not doing anything that benefits us at all.
 
mrzurnaci said:
we need to annihilate these gangs. I don't care if they are our people. They're not doing anything that benefits us at all.
Annihilate as in kill them or break them up?

If it makes you feel better, I heard that they're targeting a guy from the opposing gang for "revenge" reasons. It's still sad, because these people have family.
 
Neon said:
Annihilate as in kill them or break them up?

If it makes you feel better, I heard that they're targeting a guy from the opposing gang for "revenge" reasons. It's still sad, because these people have family.

They're targeting fellow Assyrians. As much as I don't condone the murder of non-Assyrians, these guys kill more Assyrians than non-Assyrians.
 
Bronit Omta said:
They're targeting fellow Assyrians. As much as I don't condone the murder of non-Assyrians, these guys kill more Assyrians than non-Assyrians.
And yet they never catch the perpetrator(s). This just astounds me.

I know one guy, who was associated with the gangs, is now living in hiding.
 
Neon said:
And yet they never catch the perpetrator(s). This just astounds me.

I know one guy, who was associated with the gangs, is now living in hiding.

Because the typical Liberals want trouble happening so they can keep lying that they can provide safety and security.

It's like Benjamin Franklin said: "anyone who trades a bit of liberty for safety/security deserves neither of each."
 
mrzurnaci said:
Because the typical Liberals want trouble happening so they can keep lying that they can provide safety and security.

It's like Benjamin Franklin said: "anyone who trades a bit of liberty for safety/security deserves neither of each."
Our country is not run by liberals. And I don't think the liberal-conservative ambit has anything to do with the crime in Australia.
 
No, we don't kill our own kind. If we don't value the lives of the Assyrian youth, what makes you think they will?

We must rehabilitate them - a lot of this stems from this 'gang mentality', education is key.

You guys are so worried about how many Assyrians these people kill, yet advocate for slaughtering them all. Have some pride.

 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
No, we don't kill our own kind. If we don't value the lives of the Assyrian youth, what makes you think they will?

We must rehabilitate them - a lot of this stems from this 'gang mentality', education is key.

You guys are so worried about how many Assyrians these people kill, yet advocate for slaughtering them all. Have some pride.

So killing a killer is not ok to prevent even more deaths? If not that, the very least we can do is round up anyone in the gang or closely associating with them and jail them.
 
mrzurnaci said:
So killing a killer is not ok to prevent even more deaths? If not that, the very least we can do is round up anyone in the gang or closely associating with them and jail them.

These guys aren't killer squads lol. Even if they do kill - it's fellow gangsters (the people who you push to kill anyway).

We need to rehabilitate the Assyrian youth, not destroy their futures.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
These guys aren't killer squads lol. Even if they do kill - it's fellow gangsters (the people who you push to kill anyway).

We need to rehabilitate the Assyrian youth, not destroy their futures.
Your point is very understandable. Part of me wants them all dead (to stop this for once), but my conscience wants them rehabilitated or "corrected".

I'm really on the fence about it.
 
I understand but the proposal to 'kill them all' made by some people on this thread would prove futile. It would't be a social change but rather a situational change. We can kill them all but it will only start up again - it's the mentality that needs changing.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
These guys aren't killer squads lol. Even if they do kill - it's fellow gangsters (the people who you push to kill anyway).

We need to rehabilitate the Assyrian youth, not destroy their futures.

or even better, turn them into loyal Assyrian soldiers that will (hopefully) protect our people in the homeland and not steal or threaten them...
 
mrzurnaci said:
or even better, turn them into loyal Assyrian soldiers that will (hopefully) protect our people in the homeland and not steal or threaten them...
That's a good one. But they're probably too much much of wimps. And I'd wager that their overprotective Assyrian mothers wouldn't want them travelling abroad to Iraq. Lol
 
Neon said:
That's a good one. But they're probably too much much of wimps. And I'd wager that their overprotective Assyrian mothers wouldn't want them travelling abroad to Iraq. Lol

turn wimps into men then! Secondly, since when did Assyrian guys listen to their overprotective moms?
 
This is pathetic. I don't know what's wrong with some of the Assyrians youth in Sweden and Australia it doesn't seem typical for this demograph to get into organized crime elsewhere. I have a feeling that they're influenced by that revolting hiphop culture(paired with being exposed to 'easy money lifestyle') which is of course glorified by the left-wing. Just another reason why the growth of the Assyrian diaspora in the west is a big problem.
 
Joe25 said:
I have a feeling that they're influenced by that revolting hiphop culture(paired with being exposed to 'easy money lifestyle') which is of course glorified by the left-wing. Just another reason why the growth of the Assyrian diaspora in the west is a big problem.

What's wrong with that exactly? Retard can't join the rest of the world, everything you say on this forum is utter bullshet.
 
It undermines Assyrian values and traditions. You need not look further than the African-American gang mentality in Chicago to understand the drastic potential it has if it influences the Assyrians.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
It undermines Assyrian values and traditions. You need not look further than the African-American gang mentality in Chicago to understand the drastic potential it has if it influences the Assyrians.
Yes. For starters, Assyrian gang members would usually wear hoodies, listen to rap music and they would use African American slang. It's preposterous.

Not sure why Assyrians have been so influenced by African gangs and hip hop culture. Is it because they're "coloured" like they are? Are we trying hard to find a common ground and to fit in? I don't get it.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
It undermines Assyrian values and traditions. You need not look further than the African-American gang mentality in Chicago to understand the drastic potential it has if it influences the Assyrians.

I've seen it with every Assyrian group who happens to get into trouble. They all listen to that hiphop garbage which glorifies crime and violence and they dress and use that type of slang, the left-wing has always supported them and does nothing to criticize it because it would be considered racist.

This btw has happened with every ethnic group in the west, some a lot more than others. Muslims for instance have a very high number of these hiphop criminal types.
 
Joe25 said:
I've seen it with every Assyrian group who happens to get into trouble. They all listen to that hiphop garbage which glorifies crime and violence and they dress and use that type of slang, the left-wing has always supported them and does nothing to criticize it because it would be considered racist.

This btw has happened with every ethnic group in the west, some a lot more than others. Muslims for instance have a very high number of these hiphop criminal types.

luckily for Chicago Assyrians like me, there used to actually be an Assyrian gang in the 80s but our community dismantled it (or the members all died, retired)

The reason why there are Assyrians doing this stupid stuff is because they grow up, in school around these idiots and they think its cool because these gangsters do whatever they want, whenever they want. They like it because they have power over their life but this is during the time when Assyrian kids don't realize that with power and control comes responsibility.
 
Joe25 said:
This is pathetic. I don't know what's wrong with some of the Assyrians youth in Sweden and Australia it doesn't seem typical for this demograph to get into organized crime elsewhere. I have a feeling that they're influenced by that revolting hiphop culture(paired with being exposed to 'easy money lifestyle') which is of course glorified by the left-wing. Just another reason why the growth of the Assyrian diaspora in the west is a big problem.

Western society is heavily materialistic. We have become slaves for consumerism. What it also boils down to is the acceptance that they get when they join a gang. Since these young men obviously never had strong male figures in their lives, they go to the streets and seek out acceptance from other men. So when they join gangs not only are they belonging somewhere, they also fill their egos with money and attention/respect that they crave.
 
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