Assyrian: East meets West

Salem said:
:bigarmhug:

You will learn, I'm sure of it.
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I really hope I will


Younan said:
very sneaky pheryal! lol. "hdatho" is kthobonoyo! (lishana ateeqa) haha!  :giggle:
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We say h'atho/h'aythto  :)

And easter is called fus7o so you can say for Happy Easter= breekh e'do d'fus7o :)


 
Younan said:
oh wow. now i know what "pis'kha" means! thanks. but isnt that passover?
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Passover and Easter are at the same time - remember supposedly Jesus was having Passover supper as his "Last Supper"....
 
Salem said:
In Arabic, Easter is referred to as "3eed Al-Fes7 - عِيدُ الفِصْح" which is very close to "Fus7o".
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Yeah it's almost the same and if you look at pesakh (how the jewish say it) it sounds a bit like pis'kha? :)
I love semetic languages as soon as I learn east I will start making my arabic stronger (which will be much easier for me :bangin:)
 
Phiruel said:
Yeah it's almost the same and if you look at pesakh (how the jewish say it) it sounds a bit like pis'kha  :)
I love semetic languages as soon as I learn east I will start making my arabic stronger (which will be much easier for me :bangin:)
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You don't like our languages? Aryanic? LOL - so Assyrian, Arabic, Hebrew and what other languages are Semetic? Besides, Semetic languages, from what i know, have too much KH sound, i thought Arabic had too much KH, but when i heard Hebrew, i just got my thoughts twisted.

Shlomo = Assyrian, Shalom = Hebrew, Salaam = Arabic, i think they all have the same root? They do without a doubt, but which one is older? 

 
Ooops? ? :blush2:

You guys have weird sayings. And Younan I didn?t say anything bad/naughty I made fun of someone and that?s what he replied.

By the way I did understand all except palit  :wavetowel:

 
If a kid says something naughty or you make fun of someone we say:

Qota3no (female:Qot3ono) leeshonokh/leeshonakh .... I will cut your tongue  :mrgreen:
Seems like we are more aggresive  :shades:
 
Whhen people are naughty/rude/make fun of others we also use the saying

leeshnokh/leeshonakh yarikho yo ... Your tongue is long
 
Phiruel said:
Whhen people are naughty/rude/make fun of others we also use the saying

leeshnokh/leeshonakh yarikho yo ... Your tongue is long
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We have that saying too, "leeshanokh/leeshanakh yareekheleh"

I'm guessing the person whom you're conversing with didn't want to be too aggressive straight away, so he/she used the less aggressive response.  :blink:


 
Guys my old man tells me that

Leeshanah Shapnayah eleh bosh ahticka. I think what he means by that is that West Assyrian is older then East Assyrian and more orginal.

am i correct is saying that when he said "Shapenayah" he meant West Assyrian? and that it is older then east Assyrian?
 
Hmm you could be right driver. But we speak the same language only different dialects. Our writing is the same. But maybe because turoyo is older he could be right. Never heard of Shapenayah.
 
Driv3r said:
Guys my old man tells me that

Leeshanah Shapnayah eleh bosh ahticka. I think what he means by that is that West Assyrian is older then East Assyrian and more orginal.

am i correct is saying that when he said "Shapenayah" he meant West Assyrian? and that it is older then east Assyrian?
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Is your father Urmizhnaya?  I'm just wondering - they use "Shaput" a lot but it generalizes about all Assyrians not from Iran.

The Western dialect, some believe, is pronounced more correctly to Akkadian that Eastern (the "O" instead of the "A" at the end of words, for example.)  Some words they use for nouns are more similar to the Akkadian word than the Aramaic, which is what Easterners use.  So in some ways it is more similar to Akkadian than Eastern, BUT Eastern also has the same Akkadian words - we have just learned to use the Aramaic, Arabic, Turkish or Kurdish word.

It is a disputed issue mainly because no one was alive to hear what Akkadian sounded like 5,000 years ago. :)

As for "Shaput meaning "west" - no.  Shaput is a word Urmizhnayeh use to describe all Assyrians west of Urmi.  Westerners, (and please correct me if I am wrong to any Westerners out there!) are Ma'arboyo and Easterners are Ma'dinhoyo.  These are in the Western dialect.
 
Salem said:
I'm guessing the person whom you're conversing with didn't want to be too aggressive straight away, so he/she used the less aggressive response.? :blink:
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Hmmm that?s weird because this person normally has a temper and is aggresive? :hmmm:  maybe he likes me and that?s why he didn?t used the aggresive saying. :mrgreen:

Westerners, (and please correct me if I am wrong to any Westerners out there!) are Ma'arboyo and Easterners are Ma'dinhoyo.? These are in the Western dialect.
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That?s correct. It?s very simple. Mag?arbo means west. Madenh?o means east so the western dialect is called mag?arboyo and the eastern dialect is called madenh?oyo.
 
Wow well said dlty01. I always use the words Madenhoyo and Ma'erboyo. I have a friend who studies Assyriology and I can ask her which dialects looks more to the Akkadian. From what she told me they used Akkadian but because it was so difficult they changed it to Aramaic. Also because the Akkadian alphabet has more characters than the aramaic language. And i took 45/50 years to really learn good Akkadian they changed their language to Aramaic ( well it was a longer story but this is the point hehhe).

Intresting topic :D.
 
Yes are from urmi
I think I didn?t explain myself correctly I wanted to know in Assyrian how do you label the different dialects eg west Assyrian and east Assyrian so what dialect do west Assyrian speak ? but I want the Assyrian in Assyrian lol am I confusing you?
 
Driv3r said:
Yes are from urmi
I think I didn?t explain myself correctly I wanted to know in Assyrian how do you label the different dialects eg west Assyrian and east Assyrian so what dialect do west Assyrian speak ? but I want the Assyrian in Assyrian lol am I confusing you?
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I don?t get it  :blink: sorry. It?s late and I?m sleepy.

West assyrian is called magerboyo/magerbaya and east assyrian is madenhoyo/madenkhaya
 
hello shlomo elokh/elakh

(and the reply) bsheino

welcome bsheino elokh/elakh

good morning/evening breekh shafro Reply: breekh tobo

good night = lelyo tobo

sweet dreams= h'ulmay basimeh/shantho danjoh'o

(and the reply) repeat same as above

how are you? aykan ithokh?

(and the reply) tawo/tawto tawdi sagi

"and you"? hat?

Key Phrases:

please= bgeer didakh/didokh
here you are, welcome= kaleh lomedem?
thank you= howet basimo/basimto or tawdi
yes= eh
or= aw
no= lo
with= 3am
without=dlo min
how much is this?= bmuqa yo hano




 
Phiruel said:
How do you say:

What have you been doing lately and where have you been lately?
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Motwa wada anneh yomaneh kharayeh - What were you doing those last few days.

Ayya ehketwa shaptet wirra - Where have you been the last week?


I don't recall a word for "lately".

 
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