Are we Liberal or Conservative (Democrats or Republicans)

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Liberals=Democrats
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I always wondered where do we lean (Democrats or Repbluicans). If we had our own elctions in our Country (Assyria) how we would vote?

Am I wrong to think we hold Republican thoughts. Alllow me to explain.

We are very religious (Christianity) and we love the mother country, we are very patriotic, We hate abortion and the women that have abortion, we dislike immigrants and we dislike gay marriages.

Mind you in the last Iraqi elections majority voted for Zowaa, which might be liberal in my views. 
 
If your top priorities in life are gays and abortions, and you believe the church should have a big role in your government, they yes, I guess you would vote republican.

If your priorities are jobs, education, and you're patriotic in an adult kind of way (not just chanting feel good slogans), then I think we'd be more democratic.
 
Christianity actually has nothing to do with the Republican party, so Assyrians who vote republican for Christian reasons have fallen for the G.O.P.'s "identity politics" trap:  they pander with soundbytes but in substance, aren't really anything close to it.
 
lol this is funny.  If republicans didn't have liberals, then this would be a government controlled by religion.  But it's not. 
 
If that's your description of Assyrians, then we don't sound like anything but ignorant idiots.  Glad the Assyrians I know aren't like that.  Who hates a woman because she had an abortion, yet then claims to be religious?  Was there something that wasn't translated properly in the Ten Commandments where the words hate thy... were somehow replaced with love thy...?

To answer the question in a more broad way.  Most of the world is liberal, including us.  Liberals love their country too and are patriotic.  They let people live freely without imposing strict religious codes on their daily behavior and they protect one another's right to liberty and freedom.  If Assyrians want the alternative....well we've already got it.  Just keep letting the Arabs, Persians, Turks, and Kurds rule in their conservative way and accept it.
 
Yes, I would think most Assyrians are conservative for the reasons you stated.

Also, being conservative doesn't make you ignorant just because your values and way of thinking are different than that of liberals (as many Assyrian-Americans have said in this thread). Assyrians follow a certain way of living in society, we are very close to our religion and to our beliefs. 
 
Damail said:
Yes, I would think most Assyrians are conservative for the reasons you stated.

Also, being conservative doesn't make you ignorant just because your values and way of thinking are different than that of liberals (as many Assyrian-Americans have said in this thread). Assyrians follow a certain way of living in society, we are very close to our religion and to our beliefs.  
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So you agree with hating and outcasting those that don't adhere to a certain religion? lol
 
jonadona said:
So you agree with hating and outcasting those that don't adhere to a certain religion? lol
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When the hell have Assyrians done that?

You and your liberal friends on this site are more American than Assyrian.
 
Damail said:
When the hell have Assyrians done that?

You and your liberal friends on this site are more American than Assyrian.
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Why don't you read the original post...

There you go, just come out and say it.  You're not Assyrian unless you're a Christian conservative.  Have a good day.  I have nothing more to say to you.  For all I care, you're the reason I had to live my homeland because all you did was pray for us when we were back there, and here you are still doing it.  

On top of it, an immigrant is saying we dislike immigrants.  hilarious.  
 
Ashuriena said:
You could be a liberal Republican or a conservative Democrat.
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Not According to some people in this thread.  You'll be called a fake Assyrian.  You know, the ones that stand on the sidelines and not do anything.  lol 

 
Damail said:
Yes, I would think most Assyrians are conservative for the reasons you stated.

Also, being conservative doesn't make you ignorant just because your values and way of thinking are different than that of liberals (as many Assyrian-Americans have said in this thread). Assyrians follow a certain way of living in society, we are very close to our religion and to our beliefs.   
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We've also known what it's like to live in a society ruled by religious tenants, and we have seen what havoc ensues when religious leaders involve in political affairs.  Assyrians live conservatively no matter who's in power.  It wasn't like we were all turning gay under the Clinton administration, or running out having abortions for the fun of it.  So we already have that area taken care of.  What remains essential for us (and most socieites) is providing excellent education so our children can compete in an increasingly global enviornment, making sure everyone has access to decent medical care so our people remain healthy, taking care of our enviornment so we don't leave future generations with polluted, toxic air, and keeping our people safe by providing for our defense while refraining from engaging in unecessary, illegal wars.
 
Damail said:
Reason and logic are also not exclusive to democrat nor republican.
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True.  But....come on now.....a little more with progressives than conservatives - which can be in either party.

 
jonadona said:
Why don't you read the original post...

There you go, just come out and say it.  You're not Assyrian unless you're a Christian conservative.  Have a good day.  I have nothing more to say to you.  For all I care, you're the reason I had to live my homeland because all you did was pray for us when we were back there, and here you are still doing it.  

On top of it, an immigrant is saying we dislike immigrants.  hilarious.  
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Putting words in my mouth again huh?

I never said anything near what you interpreted. Read my initial post again, I simply stated that most Assyrians (from my experience) are more geared towards conservatism.

"For all I care, you're the reason I had to live my homeland because all you did was pray for us when we were back there, and here you are still doing it."

What have liberal Assyrians done other than complain and use their words to try and get help to Assyrians in our homeland? Just as useless as praying. I really hope you don't view me as some kind of religious loving fanatic, because the only solution I believe to getting an Assyrian state is a military one. Something obviously libs are going to have a problem with.
 
Damail said:
What have liberal Assyrians done other than complain and use their words to try and get help to Assyrians in our homeland? Just as useless as praying. I really hope you don't view me as some kind of religious loving fanatic, because the only solution I believe to getting an Assyrian state is a military one. Something obviously libs are going to have a problem with.
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I don't have a problem with military means, as long as it's done intelligently, i.e., we have forces that are well-trained, properly funded, and have some sort of strategy.  In other words, the complete opposite of the Iraq war.
 
baklawa said:
We've also known what it's like to live in a society ruled by religious tenants, and we have seen what havoc ensues when religious leaders involve in political affairs.  Assyrians live conservatively no matter who's in power.  It wasn't like we were all turning gay under the Clinton administration, or running out having abortions for the fun of it.  So we already have that area taken care of.  What remains essential for us (and most socieites) is providing excellent education so our children can compete in an increasingly global enviornment, making sure everyone has access to decent medical care so our people remain healthy, taking care of our enviornment so we don't leave future generations with polluted, toxic air, and keeping our people safe by providing for our defense while refraining from engaging in unecessary, illegal wars.
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Since when is conservatism against this?

The way you view conservatives is entirely American. Maybe you should come up here to Canada and see how we run things around here.  
 
baklawa said:
I don't have a problem with military means, as long as it's done intelligently, i.e., we have forces that are well-trained, properly funded, and have some sort of strategy.  In other words, the complete opposite of the Iraq war.
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I agree.
 
Damail said:
Since when is conservatism against this?

The way you view conservatives is entirely American. Maybe you should come up here to Canada and see how we run things around here.  
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Damail, American conservatism is very different from Canadian conservatism.  Trust me, if you were living here you would be considered a liberal, especially if you support all those things you highlighted in my post. 
 
I want Assyria to be like Canada. Religion out of the government, everyone has equal rights, free healthcare and the government has no say in any personal decisions.

If it’s going to be run by religious crazy people who will discriminate against everyone who isn’t, I would rather stay here in Canada. 



 
cuttie said:
I want Assyria to be like Canada. Religion out of the government, everyone has equal rights, free healthcare and the government has no say in any personal decisions.

If it?s going to be run buy religion crazy people who will discriminate against everyone who isn?t, I would rather stay here in Canada. 
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But with a military...a good one, that is. :razz:
 
Ashuriena said:
But with a military...a good one, that is. :razz:
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Canada doesn't need a "good" military because everyone loves us.  :razz: We also don't start wars because we feel like it.  :angelnot:
 
Canada doesn't need a good military because they're next to the U.S.  We would destroy anyone who attacked Canada :giggle: too close to our sovereign land.

Which is one of the reasons you can afford universal healthcare and we just build bomber planes and weapons :sadangel:
 
Well thank you USA.We do need are money for healthcare. You know what's funny is that we didn't help you guys when you needed troops in Iraq when the war started. We are peaceful nation and we let the US do the dirty work and spend their money.  :mrgreen:
 
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