Any info on elections?
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baklawa
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I hope to God that pic of dancers are kurds and not Assyrians. How tragic to see that in, of all places, Alqush (eema d'matwateh.) I'm not surprised by ADM's strong showing in Baghdad as the KRG has no way of cutting off our people's food aid or fire them from their jobs as they've threatened to do in the north. But the results coming in from our villages under the kurdish controlled areas are disheartening.
baklawa
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Winning any city won't make a difference. The magic number is 30,000 to win a seat. Now the Iraqi Parliament has guaranteed one seat for Assyrians, so we have that for sure, even if no one group reaches 30,000. Whoever gets the most votes will get that seat. Now if we got 60,000 votes we'd get two seats. But we have several parties running, most under foreign banners, so the chances of that happening are.....let's see.....oh yeah......none.
See this is better. They would have otherwise voted for the Ishtar List and increased them in the 'quota'. At least this way, they gave less votes to that list. ;-)
And to answer your question, didn't you know that mata has always been a Communist stronghold? That's probably why many chose them. The KDP/PUK knew that and were smart enough to make a list mixing Kurds and Communist elements in Nineveh.
And to answer your question, didn't you know that mata has always been a Communist stronghold? That's probably why many chose them. The KDP/PUK knew that and were smart enough to make a list mixing Kurds and Communist elements in Nineveh.
Well a couple of famous communist figures from that village for starters, the first was a co-creator of the Iraqi Communist Party some would say. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_Salman_Yusuf, and Toma Thomas (Talal sings a song about him). Also check out the end of this page http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/10885. Again, maybe thats another reason why they voted for that list.
The more serious point, all these villages are being given food supplies, shelter and empty promises by the Kurds and people offered jobs only if they ally with the KDP, like Baklawa said. That's enough to make people vote for these parties and raise Kurdish flags as we saw. Pretty sad really.
The more serious point, all these villages are being given food supplies, shelter and empty promises by the Kurds and people offered jobs only if they ally with the KDP, like Baklawa said. That's enough to make people vote for these parties and raise Kurdish flags as we saw. Pretty sad really.
baklawa
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jonadona said:
Agreed, it looks dismal. You can't compete when you have no money, no media to get your message out, and no way to convince people to risk their food rations and jobs to support you. Outside of kurdish controlled areas ADM won by wide margins, but it's hard to expect those under their influence to forego their livelihood by voting for you. I don't even think many living in the comforts of the west would do that.
Senalco
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Ankawa have reported a serious breach of conduct in Arbil, where a kurdish official was seen to place hundreds of ballots at once in a Box without even having any voters present....
I think the Source came directly from the Iraqi Government.....
You will never have a fraud free election over there, but this time there is a different feel to it.. The Sunni's are back and the Secular parties are a lot stronger and popular than the Islamic Religious parties...
Also, its no secret that Al-Maliki dislikes the Kurds as he knows that Iraq can never be at peace unless he gives up Kirkook to them along with its Petrol, and thats not going to happen....
I think the Source came directly from the Iraqi Government.....
You will never have a fraud free election over there, but this time there is a different feel to it.. The Sunni's are back and the Secular parties are a lot stronger and popular than the Islamic Religious parties...
Also, its no secret that Al-Maliki dislikes the Kurds as he knows that Iraq can never be at peace unless he gives up Kirkook to them along with its Petrol, and thats not going to happen....
Zowaa already knew it was going to lose in the Nineveh province. This was seen with what they were playing in their Ashur TV channel for the past 2 weeks; only Arabic-based programs for Baghdadis and Basrawis. I give them credit thou for still trying. They completly decorated Ankawa with their flyers. They by far had more flyers in Ankawa then any other party (Ankawa has many Nineveh and Baghdad Assyrians that were allowed to vote.)
Its ashame, Zowaa was the one that had the Assyrian seat in Nineveh the past 4 years.
Baghdeda is Qaraqosh..
Here's an updated one for Alqosh:
872 Nineveh Sister (KDP/PUK)
512 Zowaa
481 Ishtar
103 Chaldean Democratic
http://www.ankawa.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0
Its ashame, Zowaa was the one that had the Assyrian seat in Nineveh the past 4 years.
Baghdeda is Qaraqosh..
Nineveh Sister is the KDP/PUK alliance.
Here's an updated one for Alqosh:
872 Nineveh Sister (KDP/PUK)
512 Zowaa
481 Ishtar
103 Chaldean Democratic
http://www.ankawa.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0
Blockness
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It is unfortunate that Zowaa will lose our Nineveh seat, however this seat was pretty much bought by the Ishtar list with all the people on their payroll. This seat will mean nothing since the Kurds have lost a lot of power in Mosul. The Arabs knew exactly what they were doing when they reduced our quota for seats. They knew that these seats in Mosul would fall in Pro-Kurdish hands. Let's hope that these overall positive elections will change things in the Nineveh Plain.
On another note, About 200 Soldiers from our people have been trained and are on duty in Nineveh Plains that report directly to Ministry of Defense in Baghdad and do not take orders from the local police force setup by KDP. Another 800+ are on the way. Hopefully this will replace the 1200 KDP is paying.
On another note, About 200 Soldiers from our people have been trained and are on duty in Nineveh Plains that report directly to Ministry of Defense in Baghdad and do not take orders from the local police force setup by KDP. Another 800+ are on the way. Hopefully this will replace the 1200 KDP is paying.
"Those who lost in this election have nearly a year to learn their lesson and change their strategy. They know now where the Iraqis stand."
This applies to Zowaa too. Zowaa has 11 months to change thing around or else they will lose any kind of political influence in Iraq. Yonadam Kana will lose his parliement seat in December if things continue to go the same way.
This applies to Zowaa too. Zowaa has 11 months to change thing around or else they will lose any kind of political influence in Iraq. Yonadam Kana will lose his parliement seat in December if things continue to go the same way.
Baghdad results:
Zowaa 45,5 percent
Isthar 29
Chaldean Democratic Party, 17.8 percent
Namig Nazim Zarzis 7,5 percent
Nineveh
Ishtar 66
Zowaa 29
Chaldean Democratic 4
Basra
Chaldean Democratic 36
Zowaa 34
National Chaldean Council 30
Very disapointing results in Basra for Zowaa. They didn't expect to lose their too.
Zowaa 45,5 percent
Isthar 29
Chaldean Democratic Party, 17.8 percent
Namig Nazim Zarzis 7,5 percent
Nineveh
Ishtar 66
Zowaa 29
Chaldean Democratic 4
Basra
Chaldean Democratic 36
Zowaa 34
National Chaldean Council 30
Very disapointing results in Basra for Zowaa. They didn't expect to lose their too.