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2013 Parliament elections
« on: September 22, 2013, 05:58:44 AM »


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 08:35:20 AM »
i think you are confused about list 125 and 126..?
i think you've to correct it.. 125 is the new one and 126 ADM..so the results too
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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 10:59:27 AM »
Does it matter? we still wud get 5 seats...

but its sad that ADM couldnt get alone with the other list so through this we might could get more votes. And dont forget alot of our umta votes for KDP-Barzani and I still cant believe they are now the biggest party i Iraqi-Kurdistan and not only that they have gotten more votes then the last elections.PUK has lost alot of votes and the change-list has done well this election..

The good thing is the islamic parties hasnt achieved so much which is good...

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 11:11:22 AM »
i think you are confused about list 125 and 126..?
i think you've to correct it.. 125 is the new one and 126 ADM..so the results too

Fixed

The rest of the elections here: http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/elections/results
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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 11:50:29 AM »
chaldean, thanks for providing the link. I wanted to get more updated results.

Few notes and observations:

-As if the split itself wasn't bad enough, lists 125 and 126 have been created and numbered in such a way to create as much confusion as possible. In fact, on wikipedia's page for the elections, I noticed they have reversed the numbers , giving 125 for Rafidain (Zowaa) and 126 for Nahrain (the splitted)

-Kinda shocked to see Goran finally taking over the second spot from the PUK. Ironically, the Goran (change) movement split from PUK in 2009. But will they ever have enough power and support to overtake Barazani and his PDK? We shall see, but the day that happens, there will probably be blood on the street between the two.

-Though the results were only preliminary, I noticed very low turnout for our people. I am not sure what our population is in some of these cities, towns and villages but I am sure it is more than that.

-Looking at the results late yesterday, and though they weren't fully completed, Zowaa's 126 list was completely dominant. And that actually shocked me, given all the negative press, splits of recent etc. But again, these were early results and will likely change.


chaldean, I didn't see results for our lists on that page? Or maybe I just didn't look hard enough (since I am on my mobile phone)


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 12:04:07 PM »
-Though the results were only preliminary, I noticed very low turnout for our people. I am not sure what our population is in some of these cities, towns and villages but I am sure it is more than that.

Of course immigration has effected every single Assyrian town and village in the last 10 years, but keep in mind that these numbers in no way reflect the total population, since many voted for non-Assyrian parties. In Ankawa alone, more than 70% of votes went to KDP, PUK, Goran or Communist.

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 12:05:54 PM »
Oh I actually forgot about our people voting for other lists. That is a shockingly high number of votes for other lists. What is with this fascination....


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 03:25:15 PM »
Oh I actually forgot about our people voting for other lists. That is a shockingly high number of votes for other lists. What is with this fascination....

It's very simple; what has any Assyrian political party achieved in the last 10 years? People have lost hope in all of them. The main thing for us minorities in the middle east to to not have Islamist ruling over us. Anything else is just a plus.
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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2013, 06:58:41 AM »
an final results?

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2013, 07:31:12 AM »
found some, seems as if zowaa has achoeved the majority of votesfollowed by the bangladeshi-chaldean-mozambik slate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan_parliamentary_election,_2013

zowaa 5963
b-c-m 5599
sons of whatever 1048

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2013, 03:37:42 PM »
Final results

111 seats of Kurdish parlament

KDP  got 38 seans
Gorrn got 24
PUK got 17
KIU got 9
Islamic komal got 6

the others got 4.

and 11 for the minoritets.

They can build up a government without KDP, but this mean Gorran vs PUK and islamic lists has to go together.


But I dont think PUK will turn back on KDP just like that even though they may not wanna be apart of a new government.


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 11:46:12 AM »
zowaa and popular council each with 2 seats and sons of mesopotamia got 1.
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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 01:42:09 PM »
zowaa and popular council each with 2 seats and sons of mesopotamia got 1.

So the division within Zowaa did end up costing them a seat! What a loss...


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2013, 09:30:45 AM »
chaldean, I am confused about something:

I noticed the 'Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council' wasn't part of this election? Did I miss something? I only saw the 'التجمع الكلداني السرياني الآشوري' ?

But on the wikipedia page for the elections, it gets more confusing. In there 'CSAPC' is mentioned but nothing about 'التجمع الكلداني السرياني الآشوري'?

Have the two merged to be one and the same? Or is CSAPC now part of the  'التجمع الكلداني السرياني الآشوري'  ?

I know the 'التجمع الكلداني السرياني الآشوري' was formed in response to the 'Lady of Salvation' church massacre. How quickly did it morph into a political party or list now?



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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 02:13:32 PM »
The Chaldean Syriac Assyrian United List included the Popular Council, Assyrian Patriotic Party, Bet-Nahrain and Chaldean National Council. But Popular Council's candidates within the ''United List'' got the most votes, so they got the 2 seats its list won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_elections_in_Iraq#Results

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2013, 05:07:09 AM »
How many seats wud we have gotten if all our parties and organizations including Armenians rune for one list instead of 10 differents lists? I also heard that KDP had an Assyrian candidate within their list, this affects our votes alot....


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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 08:57:18 AM »
Assyrians have five seats reserved. However the question is not how many seats would we gain if we had one united voice, but more likely how many seats could we achieve if all Assyrians would vote for Assyrian lists... majority of them does not do so...

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Re: 2013 Parliament elections
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2013, 01:41:41 PM »
How many seats wud we have gotten if all our parties and organizations including Armenians rune for one list instead of 10 differents lists?


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