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Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« on: December 02, 2011, 08:29:24 PM »
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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 08:50:10 PM »
Why is this happening?

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 11:35:02 PM »
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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 12:49:33 AM »
I was checking twitter and noticed more than one person talking about this. Shocking. Came out of nowhere. Hope it is not a sign of a new growing influence of Muslim jihadists in the region.

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 01:00:20 AM »
I finally got to watch this video. Absolutely shocking and disgusting. This is a mob scene and no interference from the police?

And what is with Kurds now chanting "Alah Akbar"? Didn't know these people cared much about these slogans? Like I said, I hope it is not a new wave of Islamic extremism starting to invade the region.

If the KRG prides in being nationalistic and not religious, then let them punish those behind these acts.

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 01:01:45 AM »
But you know what, for such a big scene and violence, I can't see it happening randomly and out of nowhere. I see hidden hands behind this. Who? I have no idea, but I just don't believe these thugs, thousands of them, woke up one day and decided to do this, altogether.

This is still breaking news and will only get more interesting. Hope our people are safe through this ordeal...

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 01:16:12 AM »
I am getting more updates now from various new websites:

-Some citizens (not sure if they are Assyrians, Kurds or both combined) have retaliated for the burning of alchohol stores and massage parlors, by setting the offices of the Islamic Union in Zakho and Semele.

And now a member of the Islamic party has come out publicly and accused Barazani and his forces of torching their offices.

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 01:18:26 AM »
Reading from Ankawa.com:

Nohadra street in Nohadra (Dohuk) where most of the alchohol stores are owned by our people, have also been torched.

So looks like the burning of these stores if not limited to Zakho. Furthermore, sources say that there is no police force to be found or to stop these Islamic arsonists.

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 01:21:33 AM »
Sorry for the multiple posts as I am reading and jumping to different sources:

Now reading that close to 300 people attacked and burnt liquor stors in the town of Shyouz (near Semele)

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 01:23:59 AM »
Nice to see our politicians are not sleeping are already in action: the union of our political parties has already held an emergency meeting to discuss this and are asking the government to not sit by idle and dispatch their forces immediately, to put a stop to this madness.


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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 01:24:49 AM »
I noticed that most attacks against our people in the last few years, usually take place 1-2 months before Christmas...

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 01:31:00 AM »
From what I am reading, they didn't just target liquor stores even if the headlines make it seem like it: they basically attacked anything owned by Assyrian Christians.

For example, male hair salons that belonged to Christians were torched while those belonging to Muslims weren't touched. Strange la? Also, some cafe places that don't even sell liquor were also torched simply because they had an Assyrian owner!

Hence why I said there are some hidden hands behind this with an evil agenda.

Remember, when it comes to Iraq, there are very few coincidents, if any at all...

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 01:34:41 AM »
These thugs have studied their target well in advance and basically knew which stores/proprties belonged to Assyrian Christians and which ones didn't...

This is why I keep saying this is pre-planned and there are others behind it...

Let us see what findings the KRG's formed committee to investigate this will come up with...

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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 01:52:43 AM »
Just read this on Jihad Watch:



I just received this email from a reader in Iraq:

Subject: Muslims attacked our liquor shops, salons, hotels
Message: Hello, I'm an Assyrian in Iraq. Today after Friday prayers, Muslim Kurds in Zakho (near Dohuk) attacked and besieged liquor shops, salons, hotels, massages that are owned by Christians. The security didn't do anything and the rampage has continued til now! You won't see this news in the media.

Indeed not. But you will see it at Jihad Watch.

UPDATE 1:23PM PST: I just received this new message from the same man on the scene in Iraq:

Thank you so much for putting the news out there, Robert.
The attacks haven't stopped, and I just go the word that they are ATTACKING a Catholic Diocesan office.

The security is standing still and watching as I am writing this to you.

Christian homes are being fired upon as well.

And I just learned that they're starting to attack small villages on the outskirts of the town as well. This could be a major news as it unfolds.

It seems to me that it already is.


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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 02:24:52 AM »
Thanks for the updates Ashoor, keep them coming!

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 02:52:41 AM »
...yet we fight amongst ourselves.

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 08:59:32 AM »
This is the works of "YAGARTO" the Islamist party here (the party has connections with the banned Ansar Al-Islam - founded by Zarqawi.) Those thugs you see on that video were pouring out of a mosque that is controlled by them. After the sermon was done, the youth was ready to attack anything that was "un-islamic."

Within hours, the offices of Yagarto were attacked not by Assyrians but by Kurds (specifically KDP members) because of their anger.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-03/riot-zahko-iraq/51611328/1
Keep in mind, the majority of liquor store customers are not non-muslims, but Muslim Kurds.  

Unfortunately, the Islamic awakening that has swept pretty much the entire Middle East is starting to creep here. The entire region is becoming more Islamic and more conservative. Of course, the minorities always pay the price. It's worth mentioning that a number of those liquor stores and massages are owned by Yezidis and foreigners such as Chinese. A Chaldean Church office has also been attacked. The government has issued 2,500 arrest warrents.

It's funny how Ankawa's ruling body last month ordered the shut down of all bars and night-hang out places last month. They might've anticipated this after seeing how fluid the situation is.

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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 09:25:42 AM »
By the way, these savages are the same people I talked about only 2 weeks ago here: http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/index.php?topic=41634.0

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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2011, 10:52:51 AM »
Pictures from the damages sustained by the 'Nohadra Cultural Club'










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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2011, 10:57:30 AM »
chaldean, keep in mind that these attacks continued or are still continuing without intervention of security forces.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2011, 11:35:57 AM »
Agree with Zowyo: it is not about who is committing these crimes. The question we are asking and many others is why the usually ruthless Kurdish security forces didn't do anything for hours, while the mayhem was going on.

Are they ok with the attacks or are they afraid to provoke the Islamists in the region?

Knowing and seeing how quickly these waves of islamic jihad spread, they better act quickly before the region becomes the new Anbar province: a hotbed of Islamic activity.

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2011, 11:45:17 AM »
Guys that is not true. True it did take 24 hours to restore order. But today arrest warrants have been issued, churches and villages have extra protections now and 4 MPs of the Islamist party have been arrested. Barzani has announced the a commette to investigate as well.

Weather you hate Barzani/KDP or not, anything is better than this Islamist bastards that make life for Assyrians even harder.
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2011, 12:13:38 PM »
It sure is, are you kidding me. Who said the Islamists are the better choice? But it is not a question of picking and choosing.

It is not even about the Assyrians in the region only. It is about the future of the region. If you don't act quickly and decisively to crush this wave, the region will suffer greatly and lose all the progress they have made.

Let us hope this was a one time thing and for everyone to be properly and adequately compensated.

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2011, 12:37:57 PM »
For me that seems so like many other things occured so far; sending the message
 "look, it can happen anytime at anyplace, it's not save here for you, flee away".

And after this message arrives to the Assyrians and other minorities, than the kurdish "supermen" arrive and start to defend an already traumatized society, ready to flee out from the region/country.

Ashoor, I dont think that the kurdish security forces are afraight of the islamists, otherwise they wouldnt attach thir offices, like chaldean told.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2011, 12:39:04 PM »
Just in: the looters have now burnt a casino in Zaweeta, some 15 KM from Nohadra. This is actually a casino I have been to more than a few times when I was 10-12. It is not your traditional casino like you have in the west but more like a place to chill and have liquor on a nice patio overlooking the mountains.

A police force has now been dispatched to the region to stop this mob before it attacks other properties in the nearby Sarsink.

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2011, 12:42:42 PM »
You can't "crush" an ideology. America's "War on Terror" has proven that. This is the consequence of living under Islam.

An Assyrian beer distributor lost 6 million dollars in inventory. He is devastated. I am sure the government will compensate.
Sarkis Aghajan's Hezal hall has been burned down. The hall catered to poor Assyrian weddings.

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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2011, 12:42:56 PM »
Here are some very good pictures of the damage and it is much worse than what I was expecting:

http://www.ankawa.com/forum/index.php/topic,547072.msg5421852


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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2011, 03:01:13 PM »
You can't "crush" an ideology. America's "War on Terror" has proven that. This is the consequence of living under Islam.

An Assyrian beer distributor lost 6 million dollars in inventory. He is devastated. I am sure the government will compensate.
Sarkis Aghajan's Hezal hall has been burned down. The hall catered to poor Assyrian weddings.


yea u cant crush an idealogy to crush everything else

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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2011, 03:13:10 PM »
It may be hard to crush an ideology but with proper effort, coordination and persistence, you can weaken it and make it irrelevant till it goes away on its own. You are not crushing the whole religion, simply this fundemental branch of it which effects everyone including muslims themselves.

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2011, 05:09:17 PM »
The Yzedi communtiy in Dohuk have taken things into their own hands and are now guarding their businesses and properties.

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2011, 07:40:47 PM »
There's no question that secular dictators are "better" than Islamists, at least then, only the government controls the violence, rather than random violence against religious minorities on the street.

That is the 107,899th time I think we have said that on the site. There should be some kind of party to celebrate or something.

I'm sure order will be restored in the north soon, they are smaller and much more organized militarily than the rest of Iraq.

As for KRG apologists, the evolution I'm seeing is fascinating: From pro-anything but Arab Muslims and anti-Zowaa; to "sure there are problems here, but at least no Islamism"; to "Sure there's Islamism but let's hope the KDP regains control and punishes them". Because we've never had any problems with "nationalist" regimes, right? Of course, I'm being facetious, almost all of our problems since the Genocide have been from foreign nationalist regimes and parties.

We understand secular dictators are "better" than Islamic theocracies. I think everyone who isn't a Mullah agrees with that. But that was never the argument. The argument was to prepare for the inevitable violence and discrimination in the KRG, too, by supporting a minority based area in the Nineveh Plains instead of becoming so enamored and heavily dependent on the KDP. I believe this holds truer today than before. Think back a few years: would anyone have dreamed hundreds of young Kurdish men burning down Assyrian businesses, religious figures' homes, and cultural centers in the name of Islam? My answer would have been a serious "No way dude. Maybe in Mosul. Not Dohuk".

I'll be honest, when I read this story, I was surprised: when is the last time, since the Genocide, we've seen Kurds behave like this toward us? Especially since 2003, as the KRG boasts about its "security" and secularism? It's confusing at the least. I did not expect religious-based violence (ever) from Kurds while the KDP still had authority there. But we're in communication with people Iraq now: Barzani has apparently pledged arrests, investigation, etc.

Personally, I think this was a way for the KDP to purge the KIU of any power or moral support, and our liquor businesses and Chinese wh*rehouses made a convenient outlet for that. (Ps - "Massage parlours" are code for wh*rehouses.)

Although I'm concerned that they attacked the Assyrian Cultural Club in Dohuk today. I'm assuming it's because they have parties which include alcohol and low party dress necklines  :giggle:

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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2011, 11:51:40 PM »
How many kurds does it take to knock down a door?

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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2011, 12:21:06 PM »
Our politicians haven't been asleep and have responded to these events quickly.

First it was an emergency meeting of a group representatives from various Assyrian political parties.

Today, Younadm Kanna was in Dohuk, along with other Assyrian politicians, to meet with KRG leader Barazani, to pressure him into putting an end to this and finding the perpetrators.






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Re: Kurds Attacking Assyrian Houses And Shops in Zakho
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2011, 12:24:33 PM »
Younadam Kanna and other representatives touring the burnt Nohadra Cultural Club:















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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2011, 09:30:25 AM »
Just when you thought the government has gotten things under control, we hear news that another Assyrian town has been hit by these mobs: this time it was Deraluk, in the municipality of Amadia, torching a few liquor store before fleeing away. But good thing that the security forces were able to capture five of them this time.

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