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Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« on: July 20, 2011, 05:22:27 PM »
Hormiz David, Ninos Yacoub, Ramina Badal Presumed Dead From Yosemite Fall

Hormiz David, 22, of Modesto, Ninos Yacoub, 27, of Turlock and Ramina Badal, 21, of Modesto are all presumed dead, Yosemite park officials stated on Wednesday, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The paper reports that the hikers were on a day trip with friends at the top of Vernal Falls when they climbed over a guardrail and fell over the waterfall. The search-and-rescue effort reportedly lasted until Wednesday morning, but teams are continuing their search for the victims.

According to Fox 40 News, the Mist Trail was closed Tuesday night and Wednesday morning for search and rescue efforts, but is now back open.

Park officials began their search for the hikers at Yosemite National Park on Tuesday afternoon.

At that time, the Associated Press reported that Yosemite officials received emergency calls from witnesses who saw hikers go into the water and over the 317-foot Vernal Falls. At the top of the path to Vernal Falls, a guardrail separates Yosemite visitors from the water.

Earlier reports from witnesses provided varied accounts of what happened:

Witness Jacob Bibee told CNN affiliate KGPE-TV, “I saw the man’s eyes when he went over the falls. That was devastating."

Bibee told the Associated Press in a news update that he saw a man on the far side of the safety railing holding a screaming girl as another girl took their picture. Two more people crossed the barricade to pose for photos, and the woman slipped and fell. A man and another women fell in, trying to help.

Witness Dean Sabo told KGPE, “I saw two that were holding each other and one that was floating alone through the water. And the reason that I looked was because this woman was screaming, running along the edge of the water."

NBC Fresno affiliate KSEE reports that, according to witnesses, a man and woman climbed over the guardrail for a better view, and possibly encouraged their children to go over as well. The man and woman began to slip before the children climbed over. Another man jumped over the guardrail to help, but also fell over the edge, KSEE reports.

In June, two hikers died after falling into the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir at Yosemite National Park.

According to the Associated Press, record snowfall has created "breathtaking" waterfalls at Yosemite, and the park carries great beauty, from lunar rainbows to meditative cascades. But there are dangers involved, and visitors don't realize the slippery trail conditions or the force of the water, especially given the additional snowfall.

Record weather has been seen around the globe this year, from snowfalls to heat waves. In June, Rajendar Pachauri, chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, announced that they would release a report in November studying the link between climate change and extreme weather events.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/20/hormiz-david-ninos-yacoub-ramina-badal_n_904775.html?ref=fb&src=sp


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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 05:54:31 PM »
This is so shockingly tragic and sad. Many people emailed and even texted this story to me but didn't know its significance until I read their names.

Very tragic and let us hope they locate their bodies at least.

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 06:10:18 PM »
I heard about this last night. That's extremely sad and tragic, even though I'm within the same cities as they are. I wish they didn't have to go beyond the guardrail...

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 08:35:19 PM »
OMG!  i dont know what to say.. this is really sad! :cry:

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 09:06:43 PM »
OMG!  i dont know what to say.. this is really sad! :cry:

R.I.P  :cry:

there's a guardrail for a reason....

I was sad until i read a little more that they climbed over the guardrail, why would you climb over a guardrail thats keeping u from falling into rapidly moving waters that goes into a freefall.....

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:37:17 AM »
What is frustrating and what I don't understand, how did all three manage to fall into the water? I understand if one of them did it, or even two of them. But for all three Assyrians (and no one else) to do the same thing and end up losing their life? I just can't understand it...

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 12:43:10 AM »
just to give you an idea what these falls look like....







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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 12:43:44 AM »
ok this sheds more light on how this happened:


Yosemite search and rescue rangers were searching the Merced River downstream for the bodies. Bibee, of Angels Camp, described a chaotic scene when he and a friend hiked to the top of Vernal Falls Tuesday. At first he saw a man on the far side of a safety railing next to the 97m-high falls holding a screaming girl while another young girl took their photograph.

Two others in their party then crossed the barricade to pose for photos on a rock 18m upstream from the falls. He said the woman on the rock slipped and the man fell in trying to reach her. Another woman also fell in trying to stop them. The trio was identified as Hormiz David, 22, Ramina Badal, 21, both of Modesto, Calif., and Ninos Yacoub, 27, of Turlock. They were visiting the park on a day trip with a group of family and friends when the tragedy occurred around 1:30 p.m. Tuesday, the park service said in a statement.

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 12:55:07 AM »
Pictures from the memorial service today in California:


source:  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2011/07/20/BA0H1KCRAP.DTL&
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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2011, 01:03:24 AM »


Tony and Virginia Badal, parents of Ramina Badal, are escorted into a vigil service at the Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East, St George Parish, Wednesday, July 20, 2011, in Ceres, Calif. Ramina Badal, 21, is among the three people presumed dead after being swept over a raging waterfall in Yosemite National Park on Tuesday. The three were believed to be in Yosemite as part of a Modesto, Calif., based youth church outing

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2011, 09:52:04 AM »
there's a guardrail for a reason....

I was sad until i read a little more that they climbed over the guardrail, why would you climb over a guardrail thats keeping u from falling into rapidly moving waters that goes into a freefall.....
u know...i did not sleep all night, thinking about this!  :/

but u know i was thinking and its like ashoor said (its like he read my mind i swear! )    how did the 3 fall down TOGETHER ?  i dont get it!  i thought:  ya well maybe the first fell down, but the second? and the third ???  :blink:


but i mean.... when i go to the beach (even though i doN'T know how to swim!) but i still go far in the water..and climb rocks!.............. so i guess in these moments..u r just in a rush...and u dont know that u are gonna die NOW!!! :/
in these moments u are just happy!!!!!! u dont realize it! :/
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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2011, 09:55:17 AM »
What is frustrating and what I don't understand, how did all three manage to fall into the water? I understand if one of them did it, or even two of them. But for all three Assyrians (and no one else) to do the same thing and end up losing their life? I just can't understand it...

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i couldnt even sleep reading this story!

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2011, 04:04:43 AM »
http://www.modbee.com/2011/07/21/v-print/1785062/merced-river-speed-flow-hampers.html

"Witnesses said one of the men, believed to be David, crossed a metal barricade with Badal above the falls to make their way over slick granite to a rock in the middle of the river. Yacoub was trying to take their photograph. Badal slipped; David reached in for her and fell in. Yacoub tried to save them and also fell in."

This is why all three of them fell in.  It was a chain reaction, with the second trying to save the first, and the third trying to save the first and second. 

I really hope they are found safe and sound clinging to some rocks.



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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2011, 12:53:22 PM »

This is why all three of them fell in.  It was a chain reaction, with the second trying to save the first, and the third trying to save the first and second. 

I really hope they are found safe and sound clinging to some rocks.



they didn't get a rope or something to tie into the guard rail and then slowly fish them out?

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2011, 03:04:27 PM »
I doubt anyone had rope with them and even if they did, I think the river would be moving too quickly for them to react.  The melting ice has made the river crazier which is why search and rescue still hasn't been able to find them.  I can't remember which article I read it in, but they (it was either the search and rescue team or the park rangers) mentioned that they didn't think they'd be able to find them until September.

Its a devastating situation and my heart goes out to their families.  I just wish the group elders had been paying a bit more attention so that this could have been prevented. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2011, 09:26:24 PM »
I doubt anyone had rope with them and even if they did, I think the river would be moving too quickly for them to react.  The melting ice has made the river crazier which is why search and rescue still hasn't been able to find them.  I can't remember which article I read it in, but they (it was either the search and rescue team or the park rangers) mentioned that they didn't think they'd be able to find them until September.

Its a devastating situation and my heart goes out to their families.  I just wish the group elders had been paying a bit more attention so that this could have been prevented.  
until SEPTEMBER!!!!! :crazy:        hadkha even if they were alive they would die by september (no food no drink no nothing)
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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2011, 11:49:07 PM »
until SEPTEMBER!!!!! :crazy:        hadkha even if they were alive they would die by september (no food no drink no nothing)
they can live off the land like ancient assyrians who lived in the mountains

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2011, 09:36:28 AM »
Lets hope they find them soon.

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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2011, 11:21:27 AM »
Yosemite officials plan no new signs after tragedy

Yosemite National Park officials said Thursday they have no plans to add new warning signs or other protections to the area where three young people were swept over a 317-foot waterfall this week.

Witnesses say the three hikers ignored warnings and climbed guard railing at the top of Vernal Fall on Tuesday to wade into the Merced River, several dozen feet from the water's drop.

One woman slipped, and two men fell in while trying to save her.

Yosemite spokesman Scott Gediman says the site's railing and single sign are adequate and it's the visitor's responsibility to exercise judgment and caution when near any cliff.

Authorities and park officials throughout the region have issued strong warnings about water dangers this summer as high temperatures melt the near-record Sierra Nevada snowpack.

Meanwhile, friends described the three hikers as church role models who normally did not take risks.

Members of St. George's Church in Ceres gathered for a prayer vigil Wednesday evening, grieving over the tragedy that occurred on a church group outing a day earlier.

The church pastor, Genard Lazar, was a part of the group of about a dozen hikers who ascended the steep Mist Trail to the top of Vernal Falls to pose for photographs.
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Re: Three Assyrian youth presumed dead from Yosemite Fall
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2011, 07:49:19 PM »
All we can do is pray...

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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2011, 09:27:58 PM »
 :crybaby: :cry: this is soo sad...even though i do not know them personally it feels like i do know them.  All we can do is pray and hope to God they are found soon.  My heart goes out to all the families

 

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