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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2017, 02:45:24 PM »
No he's NOT a legend... Not even close to be anywhere in that category. I totally agree that he has a place and purpose...You wouldn't want to play Ashur's songs in a wedding. I mean you could but eventually you want that sheikhani and khiga and so on and so forth. Janan serves that purpose very well. All I hear is zourna/Turkish/Arabic strings without much creativity. He's no inspiration to me at all. How many songs does he have that can actually be arranged and played with a real orchestra?

If you disagree, please do post his best 5 songs. I would love to check out their melodic and harmonic content.

Ashur IS a LEGEND indeed! This man has real musical content for sure.
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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2017, 11:11:05 PM »
No he's NOT a legend... Not even close to be anywhere in that category. I totally agree that he has a place and purpose...You wouldn't want to play Ashur's songs in a wedding. I mean you could but eventually you want that sheikhani and khiga and so on and so forth. Janan serves that purpose very well. All I hear is zourna/Turkish/Arabic strings without much creativity. He's no inspiration to me at all. How many songs does he have that can actually be arranged and played with a real orchestra?

If you disagree, please do post his best 5 songs. I would love to check out their melodic and harmonic content.

Ashur IS a LEGEND indeed! This man has real musical content for sure.
Very well said.

My only favourite Janan song is Zerineh from his 1987 album. And it's still quite Kurdish influenced.
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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2017, 07:54:53 PM »

... Zerineh from his 1987 album....


Just checked it out:


Yep! Basically a kurdish song. The main melody is 8 bars long and gets repeated over and over for like 5 minutes. Entire song comes down to this: 0:36 - 0:48

It's probably a fun folk song so obviously you don't expect an extensive melody from the original idea....but that's exactly when artistry and musicianship comes in. It's what you can do with that melody.
I don't really see a difference between his party songs and album recordings. I'm not trying to offend anyone though...Just thinking out loud.

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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2017, 10:43:53 PM »
Just checked it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVblv11e8pY

Yep! Basically a kurdish song. The main melody is 8 bars long and gets repeated over and over for like 5 minutes. Entire song comes down to this: 0:36 - 0:48

It's probably a fun folk song so obviously you don't expect an extensive melody from the original idea....but that's exactly when artistry and musicianship comes in. It's what you can do with that melody.
I don't really see a difference between his party songs and album recordings. I'm not trying to offend anyone though...Just thinking out loud.

It does use a looped chord progression. But I gotta that its chords are really interesting, reminiscent of the Dorian mode. The song continuously alters between D major chord and D minor at the beginning of its verses (common in Assyrian music for some reason, simultaneously altering the minor fourth chord to a major chord), where it then ultimately goes back to the root key of A minor. It's like Dorian mode with added "colour" (since A Dorian doesn't have an F major chord).
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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2018, 02:40:16 AM »
I gotta say that I do like Min Pumakh, Min Pumy by Janan Sawa.

It doesn't sound Kurdish at all. It sounds more Assyrian with a bit of western. His best song.

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Re: Is Janan Sawa a Legend?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2018, 09:44:20 PM »
I gotta say that I do like Min Pumakh, Min Pumy by Janan Sawa.

It doesn't sound Kurdish at all. It sounds more Assyrian with a bit of western. His best song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIt0g993cCY


Don't forget that it's hard being a song-writer, composer, AND a singer all in one person. It's more cost effective to just make Assyrian versions of folk songs and use them for khigga remixes than it is to make actual, legit Assyrian music.

For Assyrians to truly shine in creativity and develop our native music, we need to create a market for that then. We need to create a market for original, Assyrian songs that can be remixed for khigga or whatever.

 

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