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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #490 on: March 15, 2010, 01:12:19 PM »
I want to ask for the next phraze, but I don´t know how to say it in English :S
I wanna try it in Assyrian: yaqid lebi a´la
(which means literally 'my heart burns because of her').
I say that if something bad happens to somebody and I have compassion for this person, than I say that.

Do You know what I mean?
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #491 on: March 15, 2010, 05:23:22 PM »
Tihe Leshonan!! Tihe Leshonan!!

awsome song
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #492 on: March 15, 2010, 05:43:17 PM »
Addo Rhawi - Tihe Leshonan


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Do You understand that?
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #493 on: March 15, 2010, 05:47:51 PM »
haha some of it! Not entirely  :bangin:
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #494 on: March 19, 2010, 09:30:03 PM »
I want to ask for the next phraze, but I don´t know how to say it in English :S
I wanna try it in Assyrian: yaqid lebi a´la
(which means literally 'my heart burns because of her').
I say that if something bad happens to somebody and I have compassion for this person, than I say that.

Do You know what I mean?

And what means 'same' ? We say in the common speech ´aini but that´s not Assyrian. It´s mulso in Assyrian.

What means 'I drive' and 'he/she drives' ?
We say '(ko-)qola´no' and hie '(ko-)qole´ / hia (ko-)ql´o'.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #495 on: March 23, 2010, 04:42:38 PM »
it akha nasha d mase amre modi ile d buqrili b le´sa madinkhaya ?
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #496 on: March 26, 2010, 07:12:45 AM »
Okay, time passed away and it seems so that nobody saw my questions, so I want to repeat it and get Your awareness by pushing this topic:

- I want to ask for the next phraze, but I don´t know how to say it in English :S
I wanna try it in Assyrian: yaqidh lebi a´la
(which means literally 'my heart burns because of her').
I say that if something bad happens to somebody and I have compassion for this person.

Do You know what I mean?


- And what means 'same' ? We say in the common speech ´aini but that´s not Assyrian. It´s mulso in Assyrian.

What means 'I drive' and 'he/she drives' ?
We say ono '(ko-)qola´no' and hie '(ko-)qole´ / hia (ko-)ql´o'.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 07:13:20 AM by John_86 »
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #497 on: April 18, 2010, 07:19:29 PM »
oh wait, not soo many answers, please ...
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #498 on: April 21, 2010, 02:29:14 PM »
Okay, time passed away and it seems so that nobody saw my questions, so I want to repeat it and get Your awareness by pushing this topic:

- I want to ask for the next phraze, but I don´t know how to say it in English :S
I wanna try it in Assyrian: yaqidh lebi a´la
(which means literally 'my heart burns because of her').
I say that if something bad happens to somebody and I have compassion for this person.

Do You know what I mean?

I know exactly what you mean.  We have that exact expression in East Assyrian.  There are a few different ways of saying it depending  on the tense you choose.  For example, you can say:  maa-quu-dhe-lah leb-bi or you can say muu-qedh-lah lebbi .



- And what means 'same' ? We say in the common speech ´aini but that´s not Assyrian. It´s mulso in Assyrian.


o mendileh   literally meaning, "it's the same thing".



What means 'I drive' and 'he/she drives' ?
We say ono '(ko-)qola´no' and hie '(ko-)qole´ / hia (ko-)ql´o'.

As in "drive" a car?

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #499 on: April 21, 2010, 04:32:17 PM »
I know exactly what you mean.  We have that exact expression in East Assyrian.  There are a few different ways of saying it depending  on the tense you choose.  For example, you can say:  maa-quu-dhe-lah leb-bi or you can say muu-qedh-lah lebbi .

"muu-qedh-lah lebbi" is equivalent to "maw-qadh-lah lebi" in the western dialect :)
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #500 on: April 25, 2010, 06:52:16 AM »
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #501 on: April 26, 2010, 02:03:18 PM »
- I want to ask for the next phraze, but I don´t know how to say it in
What means 'I drive' and 'he/she drives' ?
We say ono '(ko-)qola´no' and hie '(ko-)qole´ / hia (ko-)ql´o'.

"I drive":  Taa-ren The "T" is a "Teith".
"He drives": Taa-re
"She drives":  Tar-ya
"You (m.) drive":  Taa-reth
"You (f.) drive":  Tar-yath
"We drive":  Taa-rikh
"You (p.) drive":  Taa-re-tun
"They drive":  Taa-ri

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #502 on: April 26, 2010, 03:37:57 PM »
Hey, I did ask just for the 1. and 3. person singular, I want to try it myself, but thank You :)
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #503 on: April 26, 2010, 04:21:43 PM »
Did anyone managed to find out what dialect my family spoke? lol

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #504 on: June 16, 2010, 02:19:17 PM »
What means bdain ?

It seems to me that it´s in 1. person futur, right?
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #505 on: June 17, 2010, 07:13:49 PM »
What do You say to "each other" in east dialect? E.g. "We learn from each other."

We say in west: yelfina me Hdhodhe.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #506 on: June 27, 2010, 07:09:58 AM »
Hey, is there a reason, why I don´t get answers anymore?

btw, what means (the) answer? :) We say funoyo. I answer You the question - mfane-no-lokh u shwolo
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #507 on: June 28, 2010, 12:08:40 PM »
John click this link http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=9461.0 and use find (Ctrl + F) to search for some of your questions. Most of them have already been answered.

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #508 on: June 28, 2010, 12:35:23 PM »
Hey, basima raba, David, la yadinwa owa option :)

Btw, I still don´t find a translation for "bdain."
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #509 on: June 29, 2010, 06:45:48 PM »
And what do You say to "melted" ?

We say "fashiro" (m) and "fashirto" (f).

We use this word also for "assimilated"
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #510 on: July 04, 2010, 12:05:56 AM »
Melted - Pshirta
Assimilated - Prishta   I THINK!

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #511 on: July 04, 2010, 08:24:48 PM »
"prishta" ? hmm we say "frishto" to something which is separated.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #512 on: July 05, 2010, 12:11:29 AM »
Yeah thought so, I thought it might be the same word. lol I don't know assimilated then. It might be melted for us as well.

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #513 on: August 25, 2010, 10:36:30 PM »
How do you say conquered in Assyrian? East and west.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #514 on: August 26, 2010, 12:57:29 AM »
How do you say conquered in Assyrian? East and west.

The three root consonants are -k-b-sh- kwaa-sha (east) or kbo-sho (west).  I don't hear it used in the eastern dialect.  Maybe you can raise the word from the dead and repopularize it?

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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #515 on: August 26, 2010, 01:49:05 AM »
I dont think we have used it since 613bc LOL
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #516 on: September 03, 2010, 12:21:18 PM »
How do you say conquered in Assyrian? East and west.

it´s kbosho in west. There are some other words for this meaning too but I think this is the more common word for this meaning.
EDIT: ups, now I see ISay was faster :)
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #517 on: September 03, 2010, 12:23:34 PM »
I dont think we have used it since 613bc LOL

:) But this is the right time now where we should know it to realize it.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #518 on: October 06, 2010, 02:22:42 PM »
How do you build sentence with "would" ?
In western Assyrian we put the futur form in front of and the past form on the end of the word stem of the verb, e.g.:

I would go to Nuhro = g-zi-way-no lu Nuhro.
or
I would see her at home = gd-hoze-way-no la bu bayto.
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Re: East meets West …..
« Reply #519 on: October 06, 2010, 05:04:08 PM »
anna dazen nuhro?
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« Reply #520 on: October 14, 2010, 06:01:59 AM »
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Re: Assyrian: East meets West
« Reply #521 on: February 09, 2011, 10:46:17 AM »
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Btw, I still don´t find a translation for "bdain."

maybe i didnt get you right... but if i got you right i would translate it to "I know".
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Re: Assyrian: East meets West
« Reply #522 on: February 21, 2011, 03:28:09 PM »
Is there a meaning-difference between "bdain" and "bdaya" ?
Could it be that the "b" or "bd" in front of the verb marks the -ing time ?
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« Reply #523 on: February 21, 2011, 10:37:22 PM »
Is there a meaning-difference between "bdain" and "bdaya" ?
Could it be that the "b" or "bd" in front of the verb marks the -ing time ?

Bdhaya sounds like "knowing," while the -in in bdhay-in makes it sound like "I am knowing."

I don't think it's the b- that marks the "-ing" (since not all dialects have the b-), I think it's the general xxAxA pattern:

  • xzAyA (ܚܙܵܝܵܐ) = "seeing"
  • 'mArA (ܐܡܵܪܵܐ) = "saying"
  • bshAlA (ܒܫܵܠܵܐ) = "cooking"
  • T`AmA (ܛܥܵܡܵܐ) = "tasting"

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Re: Assyrian: East meets West
« Reply #524 on: February 23, 2011, 06:16:59 AM »
But how would you use these words in a sentence in the -ing time ?
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