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News & Current Events / KRG Referendum by Caspian Report
« Last post by mrzurnaci on Today at 01:35:43 AM »
Video does mention us Assyrians.

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hahahahahaha, you at like a bad loser.

You know what? at the end of the day Assyrians will never get their own homeland back (because you pick the wrong enemies and friends), there will be a Great Kurdistan and it will be much bigger than Armenia. And ALL you enemies: Arabs, Turks and Persians will be defeated.

Only the results matter, but that is because Kurds have sacrificed a lot for our beloved homeland, land of our Median ancestors called Kurdistan!
Okay Alan1.
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News & Current Events / Re: The Kurdish referendum.
« Last post by mrzurnaci on Yesterday at 05:06:52 PM »
The Kurdish referendum is tomorrow.

Even if the majority vote YES, it won't mean much. Majority are against this -except for Israel-and is doomed to fail.

And for those own Assyrians who are cheering for this, shame on you. Just because you don't want to be under the control of the central government, doesn't mean you should be happy Kurds are trying to form a state at our expense and our history.


ASHOOR

At least ASH, they'll get their independence but they'll be blockaded to hell.
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News & Current Events / The Kurdish referendum.
« Last post by ASHOOR on Yesterday at 04:27:15 PM »
The Kurdish referendum is tomorrow.

Even if the majority vote YES, it won't mean much. Majority are against this -except for Israel-and is doomed to fail.

And for those own Assyrians who are cheering for this, shame on you. Just because you don't want to be under the control of the central government, doesn't mean you should be happy Kurds are trying to form a state at our expense and our history.


ASHOOR
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Chit Chat / Re: Who Remembers ICQ?
« Last post by ASHOOR on Yesterday at 04:18:34 PM »
ICQ, that was the best! I started using it around late 1999.

BTW, last week on Sep 15, it was my 19th anniversary of first BD officially logging online from home, on my own PC: Sep 15, 1998
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Referendum is Bashur is not even that important, Yesterday Rojava held its first elections ever!!!!!
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hahahahahaha, you at like a bad loser.

You know what? at the end of the day Assyrians will never get their own homeland back (because you pick the wrong enemies and friends), there will be a Great Kurdistan and it will be much bigger than Armenia. And ALL you enemies: Arabs, Turks and Persians will be defeated.

Only the results matter, but that is because Kurds have sacrificed a lot for our beloved homeland, land of our Median ancestors called Kurdistan!
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Firstly, Kurds had no leadership role such sultans in Otman Empire. However, despite of huge number of Assyrian and Jews in our region, kurds were local leaders and became stronger and stronger in our region.

No doubt Israel wants to use Kurd against other Muslims and Arabs in ME. But what Kurds recieve for doing that?
Right now Israel sent its forces including F16 to Erbil to protect Kurds in their referendum day. So basicly Kurds are also using other countries forces to protect them.
Actually we are not too few to demand a region in Nineveh Plain, but we dont have such "relationship" with other countries as Kurds do to help us with that.


Not exactly, Kurds became stronger because they had more rights than we did under the Ottomans, which allowed them to expand further. Kurds were allowed to steal and rob non-Muslims without any kind of repercussions. As soon as Kurds rebelled or robbed Ottomans, they were swiftly punished.

We're not too few, you're right BUT how useful are we to other countries compared to Kurds? Kurds are useful to Israel because they're cannon fodder.

Kurds were useful to the Ottomans because they wanted cannonfodder to slow down the Persians in case Persia invaded into Ottoman territory.

Persians used Kurds as cannon fodder as well when they moved many Kurdish tribes into Eastern Persia to fight off migrating Turkic peoples.

Kurds were pretty much Muslim mercenaries. Even if Assyrians were good at fighting, no Muslim empire would utilize us because we weren't Muslim and thus weren't trustworthy.

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No, we shouldn't be pawns. Kurds are being used as Cannonfodder by Israel. Do you want to become cannonfodder yourself? Secondly, in the future, Arabs and/or Israel will probably use us against Kurds or Turks.

There's nothing wrong with asking another country for aid but it's a different story if you know they're helping you just for their own benefit entirely.

Kurds have been used as pawns since the middle ages. The biggest ME user of the Kurds were the Ottomans who moved the Kurds from Iran and Azerbaijan into our homeland in order to create a buffer against the Persians.

The Turks forced us to move into the mountains while they gave the Kurds that land. Kurds were nomadic, they were only loyal if you gave them what they wanted. Ottomans pretty much gave them autonomy so long as they monitored the Persian borders.

If you want another example of that, it's like when the Greek Byzantines used the Armenians as a buffer against the Persians.

I'm just reiterating, Israel doesn't actually support Kurds on any ethical or ethnic grounds, it's entirely political because since the Yom Kippur war, Israel realized that they can't always military dominate the Arab nations, so their only method is destabilization and/or making allies.

I'm 100% sure that the Israel-Mossad considered us but they skipped over us because we have no real power or influence in the Middle East at all.
Especially considering most Assyrians in Iraq chose to leave instead of move to the North in Nineveh Plains. The fact that they moved showed that they had money which could've been used in the Nineveh Plains but you can't change history, only learn from it.

We should never be pawns because being a pawn means that we're only in that position to be cannonfodder.


Firstly, Kurds had no leadership role such sultans in Otman Empire. However, despite of huge number of Assyrian and Jews in our region, kurds were local leaders and became stronger and stronger in our region.

No doubt Israel wants to use Kurd against other Muslims and Arabs in ME. But what Kurds recieve for doing that?
Right now Israel sent its forces including F16 to Erbil to protect Kurds in their referendum day. So basicly Kurds are also using other countries forces to protect them.
Actually we are not too few to demand a region in Nineveh Plain, but we dont have such "relationship" with other countries as Kurds do to help us with that.



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Chit Chat / Re: Conversations With My Assyrian Dad
« Last post by mrzurnaci on September 19, 2017, 06:45:42 PM »
great post Dalz!
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