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Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« on: March 22, 2012, 05:06:26 AM »
I have been wondering something lately.

They say that 100+ years ago we Syriacs in Tur Abdin didn't have last names. The Turks "forced" us to pick Turkish last names in early 1900 or something.

Before that we didn't have last names but you could identify yourself as Bet X (of house X). So if your name is Matt and your dad's name is Tim then you could say Matt Bet Tim (Matt of house Tim). Or your family could have kept the Bet X of a man in the family from generations back.

F.ex. there is a family here in Sweden who we didn't know who say that my family (on my dad's side) and theirs were family (that is to say the same Bet) over 100 years ago in a village in Tur Abdin. They're not from the same village as where my dad came from but now we know that my dad's ancestors moved from that same village that the other family came from over 100 years ago so it might be correct that we were family back then. In Sweden they changed their last name to the Bet thing again.

Is it the same with the ACOE and Chaldean Assyrians? Or do you have some other story?



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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 07:00:44 AM »
Yes it is. Before all this fake states were drawn in the Middle East, most Assyrians would have been called like "Ashur Bet Banipal" or so. the "Banipal" would mark more or less a family clans affiliation.

Anyway as for me being born in Syria, and my perants too, the thing changed. As far as I have heard, they choose the aftername according to the person that was the oldest in the house of a family.


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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 05:18:53 PM »
yep the same with us, i actually have a persian surname as i am from Urmi.
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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 07:03:35 PM »
Man, that´s so bad. I wanna change my turkish last name into my real Assyrian family name but it´s very difficult here in Germany.
Only if you have luck than you have a clerk in the town hall who isn´t a bureaucratically as_hole, but this luck is rarely here :/
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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 09:27:09 PM »
Man, that´s so bad. I wanna change my turkish last name into my real Assyrian family name but it´s very difficult here in Germany.
Only if you have luck than you have a clerk in the town hall who isn´t a bureaucratically as_hole, but this luck is rarely here :/

its easy in OZ i actually did it, thing with me i kept my surname and took my dad's village name out.

it was weird my surname had two parts.
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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 10:27:36 PM »
People took the names of their great grand-fathers and those became family name . That is the case with my family whose roots are from the Assyrian town of Kharos in Hakkari (south-eastern Turkey today). The same applied to my other side of the family who came from Urmi (today in Iran).
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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 01:17:25 AM »
Why are you discouraging people from posting on this or any other topic? It is no wounder that no one has posted  on this topic for the last 120 days.

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Re: Non-Tur Abdin/Syriac Assyrians, what about your last names?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2017, 02:58:35 AM »
I have an Assyrian last name on my mum's side and Armenianized one on my father's side (Sargis/Sarkis).
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