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no, he was greek.
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Yes lol, needs to fall under those specific requirements. Apparently we Assyrians "don't have proof of being Assyrian in our own language unlike the Arameans" lol

and what proof do the Arameanists have? All their writings are in Syriac which is proof enough that they're Assyrian... ancient and medieval Arameans didn't speak Syriac except as a secondary dialect. Arameans had their own native Aramaic dialect.

this is modern, Aramean-native Aramaic...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Neo-Aramaic

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Hello / Peace    Šloma
Altar server    Šammosa
Morning    Sofra
Mountain    Ṭura
Water    Moya
My mother    Emmay
God    Alo / Iloha
Sun    Šimša
Mouth    Femma
Head    Rayša
Village    Qrīṯa
I swear    B'sliba
Nice    Halya
Here / here it is    Hōẖa / Hōẖa hu
Liar    Daklona
After    Boṯar min
Son    Ebra
Brother / brothers    Ḥōna / Ḥuno
Donkey    Hmora
Tongue / language    Lišōna
Money    Kiršo
Nation    Omṯa
Year    Ešna
Moon    Sahra
King    Malka
Earth    Ar'a
Dove    Yawna
Long live!    Tschihi!
Grave    Qabra
Uncle    Hola
Father    Obu
Way    Tarba
Ocean    Yamma
Congratulations!    Briẖa!
Syriac (Aramean) / Syriacs (Arameans)    Suray / Suroy
Sky    Šmoya
Who?    Mōn?
Aunt    Holča
Love    Rhmoṯa
Kiss    Noškṯa
How are you?    Eẖ čōb? (m) / Eẖ čība? (f)
Fast    Sauma
Human    Barnōša
Holy spirit    Ruẖa qudšo
Poison    Samma
Sword    Seyfa
Bone    Germa
Blood    Edma
Half    Felka
Skin    Gelta
Hunger    H̱afna
Stone / rock    H̱efa
Vineyard    H̱arma
Back    Hassa
Goat    Ezza
Lip    Sefta
Chin / beard    Dekna
Tooth / crag    Šenna
Past    Zibnō
Queen    Malkṯa
The little man    Ġabrōna z'ora
Peace to all of you    Šloma lkhulkhun
Who is this?    Mōn hanna? (m) / Mōn hod? (f)
I am Aramean and my language is Aramaic.    Ana suray w lišoni siryon.
We are Arameans and our language is Aramaic.    Anaḥ suroy w lišonah siryon.
Church    Klesya (Greek loanword)
What's your name? (m)    Mo ošmakh? (m)
Dream    Helma
Assyrian / Assyrians    Aturay / Aturoy
Old man    Soba
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well I guess the amount of Assyrianists from the Syriac Orthodox Church isn't enough to convince them lol?
So something before the 1800s AND written in Sureth?

Yes lol, needs to fall under those specific requirements. Apparently we Assyrians "don't have proof of being Assyrian in our own language unlike the Arameans" lol
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Yep. Virtually all Assyrians from Mosul, Kirkuk, Habbaniya, Baghdad, etc, originate from villages to the north (Hakkari, Barwar, Al Qosh and even Urmia).

I think those from Mosul are older inhabitants, hence the reason why they've forgotten Assyrian. Also, they usually tend to be Chaldeans (Catholic Assyrians).

There is actually a lot of Syriac Orthodox/ Catholic Assyrians in Mousl
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News & Current Events / Re: The Kurdish referendum.
« Last post by Cascade on November 19, 2017, 09:32:48 PM »
I don't take opinions of a bunch of amateurs very seriously and never did. Everybody has got an opinion, even babies. Even my cat has an opinion, so also animals have opinions, lol.

What matters is science and scientific facts. We should separate emotion from science.


Races occur due to regional evolutions. Every race evolves differently and has different deep roots and different characteristics.


Kurds are NorthWest Iranic people and are evolved from the ancient NorthWest Iranic people.
Assyrians are NorthWest Semitic people and are evolved from the ancient NorthWest Semitic people.


Ancient Semitic people and ancient Iranian (Aryan) people had different backgrounds/deep roots and different homelands. Both races came into the existence and evolved separately.

It happens that the ancient NorthWest Iranian (Aryan) race (Medes, Persians etc.) evolved on the Iranian Plateau/Zagros Mountains, while Semitic race evolved outside the Iranian Plateau/Zagros Mountains.

So Aryans and Semites have different deep roots. They are separate and distinguish races with their own history.

Non-Aryan races are NOT native to the Iranian Plateau/Zagros Mountains. Only Aryans are native to the Iranian Plateau. Same can be said about all other human races. Only Nordic races are native to the Northern Europe, all other non-Nordic races are not native to Northern Europe. Only Semitic races are native to SouthWest Asia. All other non-Semitic races are not native to Semitic homeland.



Okay...You know what, this race debate has gotten out of hand. We've been arguing about it for like 7 months now and we're not getting anywhere. Let's agree to disagree. Lol.

I will continue to be believe that there is no such thing as a Semitic race. A class that groups Assyrians and Saudi Arabians as one race, just because they speak the same language (when clearly Saudis and Assyrians look different). I do "believe" in a Levantine/Armenoid that includes Jews, Armenians, (some) Kurds and Turks, Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Assyrians and a few Iraqi Arabs. And that's me. If you think it's amateur, then by all means do so.

Feel free to believe in your own idea of race too (Semitic, Aryan, etc). We really have to close this discussion now, because none of us are getting convinced.
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I think that my father's side and other Musulaye are originally from other villages and my great great.... grandparents could have fled during genocide or war.
Yep. Virtually all Assyrians from Mosul, Kirkuk, Habbaniya, Baghdad, etc, originate from villages to the north (Hakkari, Barwar, Al Qosh and even Urmia).

I think those from Mosul are older inhabitants, hence the reason why they've forgotten Assyrian. Also, they usually tend to be Chaldeans (Catholic Assyrians).
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Something not too close to 1800s but far enough so that it's actually somewhat provoking to these Arameanists.

well I guess the amount of Assyrianists from the Syriac Orthodox Church isn't enough to convince them lol?
So something before the 1800s AND written in Sureth?
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How far before the 1800s?

Something not too close to 1800s but far enough so that it's actually somewhat provoking to these Arameanists.
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I doubt this. The classical Assyrian tribes have always been Tyari, Baz, Jelu, Nochiya, Gawar, Tel Iskof, Al Qosh...etc

Muslawis are just Assyro-Chaldeans who migrated from the above tribes to Iraq cities, such as Baghdad, Mosul, Habbaniya and Kirkuk, among others.

There are Assyrians from Kirkuk who proudly call themselves "Kirkuknayeh", even though they are still (originally) from Hakkari - My baznaya neighbours for instance.

I think that my father's side and other Musulaye are originally from other villages and my great great.... grandparents could have fled during genocide or war.
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