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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #175 on: March 18, 2017, 09:28:37 AM »
Your charts/graphs are very dated.

Since they discovered Iranian Neolithic and LEvant Neolithic everything changed.

It is true that Assyrians are not from the mountains, but since they are Semitic they are from the desert.

And the LATEST data is showing that Assyrians are acutally very, vey mixed people. Mixed between Levant and Mesopotamia.

You mean recent Natufian DNA, etc.? Mind showing data/diagrams showing Assyrians are very very mixed? "since they are Semitic they are from the desert." <- This makes no sense. If this is true, why are Assyrians so closely related to Armenians, an Indo-European group?
Of course Assyrians have Levantine as well as Mesopotamian admixture...
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #176 on: March 18, 2017, 09:51:28 AM »
Assyrians would be something between Caucasians & Aryans and the Southern Semites/Arabs.

Just take a look on the Assyran auDNA on Gedmatch.


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Okay. I'm not sure why you believe that the diagrams I posted were outdated because my posted diagrams ONLY compare modern Assyrians to other modern ethnicites, not ancient DNA samples.
The second diagram you posted with the modern Armenian and Eastern Mizrachi samples matches the pattern in this diagram:



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Assyrians would be something between Caucasians & Aryans and the Southern Semites/Arabs.


Yes, that is obvious and my diagrams corroborate that. Mesopotamia is right between the Caucasus and Southwest Asia. Assyrians have virtually no EHG, and Assyrians are homogenous compared to most modern peoples, not compared to Neolithic era peoples.

And how are you certain Assyrians have a lot of Levantine compared to Mesopotamian ancestry? Because as far as I'm aware ancient DNA samples have not yet been taken from Mesopotamia, only from the Levant, Northwestern Iran, etc.



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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #177 on: March 18, 2017, 09:59:41 AM »
Found out why he hates Assyrians so much (According to his reddit)

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Not by Westerners but by so-called ''assyrians'' in Australia who called me and my mother ''Muslim ****s'' and told us to back to our countries.
Westerners have been actually pretty respectful, way different from the Mountain Dwellers.

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2017, 10:12:24 AM »
Aryan Kurds are very different people.

Aryan race was born after Anatolian Farmers mixed with the Iranian Plateau neolithic farmers.


Semitic Assyrians and Aryan Kurds are 2 different & separated races. But the point is that Assyrians are very mixed and have alot Kurdish DNA in them, especially Chaldeans. That's why they are clother to the Kurds than other Semites are.

If anything, Kurds have Assyrian DNA in them, not the other way round.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #179 on: March 18, 2017, 10:24:41 AM »
So are Assyrians villagers, cave dwellers, or nomads? Make up your bloody mind. And you claimed to be a Khaliji on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/ProudKhaliji
So are you a Levantine or a Khaliji? Did you throw away your meds for your clinically delusional mental state?

Also, mind pointing out precisely where in that Y-DNA spreadsheet it says Assyrians have "African blood?" You accuse Assyrians of racism while you support a racial supremacist ideology that was influenced by European movements.

"Arsuzi formed the Arab Ba'ath Party in 1940 and his views influenced Aflaq who, alongside junior partner Salah al-Din al-Bitar, founded the Arab Ihya Movement in 1940 that later renamed itself the Arab Ba'ath Movement in 1943.
Arsuzi was an Arab from Alexandretta who had been associated with Arab nationalist politics during the interwar period. He was inspired by the French Revolution, the German and Italian unification movements, and the Japanese economic "miracle". His views were influenced by a number of prominent European and Eurasian philosophical and political figures, among them Georg Hegel, Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Oswald Spengler.
Arsuzi's Ba'ath Party believed in the virtues of the "one leader", and Arsuzi himself believed personally in the racial superiority of the Arabs. The party members read a lot of Nazi literature, such as The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, and they were one of the first groups to plan the translation of Mein Kampf into Arabic and they were also actively looking for a copy of The Myth of the Twentieth Century. Arsuzi was also influenced by the racial theories of Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Nazism. Arsuzi claimed that historically Islam and Muhammad had reinforced the nobility and purity of Arabs, which degenerated in purity because of the adoption of Islam by other people." A movement founded on the worst principles of fascism and socialism. Wonderful.

Anyways have fun blaming the evil Europeans and Jews for literally everything. Look at how much you've accomplished by doing so! Keep following outdated and self-destructive ideologies.

Ba'athism was literally funded by socialists you ****ing idiot, it has nothing to do with racial purity and Nazism, Saddam and Aflaq themselves spoke against it several times, Arsuzi was always ostracized by the Ba'athists.

Ba'athism has much more in common with Juche and Maoism (pan-Nationalism based on anti-western/europan and anti-imperialist sentiment, third-world comradeship and socialism) than Nazism, actually it is you bloody ethno-separatist so-called ''assyrians'' and the Zionists who have much more in common with Nazis.

Outdated and self-destructive ideologies? The Ba'ath experience was very short and destroyed by the Jews, thanks to the treacherous ethno-nationalist (like yourselves) and sectarianist lackeys within our nations, and the White Western attacking dogs, but considering this short experience we can testify the gloriousness of Ba'athism, under Ba'ath, Iraq was on the point of being considered a developed nation and has had the 4th biggest military in the world, Syria was also pretty developed (it still is), my own city Lattakia and most of Ba'ath controlled areas have pretty high standards of living, Ba'athism is the solution to the Arab nation, only with it we can be strong enough to fight Western colonial aggression like Salafism, Zionism, treacherous ethnic Western lemming minorities  and direct invasions.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #180 on: March 18, 2017, 10:27:49 AM »
The Aryans will send you back to Africa. For the last 25 years the Arabs commited 2 GENOCIDES on Kurds. Now it is our turn. Arabs will experience the vendetta Kurds style very soon. You wanted to enslave the Aryans? For now on, you Semitic Africans will be our slaves for thousands for thousands of years to come.

Why are you hating on me? As an Arab I see Kurds as our brothers and sisters, both in faith and nationality  :heart:

I agree with an autonomous region to Kurds within our Syrian Arab nation, because you have proven to be loyal to the government and directly assisted against Daesh.



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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #181 on: March 18, 2017, 10:33:21 AM »
So are Assyrians villagers, cave dwellers, or nomads? Make up your bloody mind. And you claimed to be a Khaliji on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/ProudKhaliji
So are you a Levantine or a Khaliji? Did you throw away your meds for your clinically delusional mental state?

Also, mind pointing out precisely where in that Y-DNA spreadsheet it says Assyrians have "African blood?" You accuse Assyrians of racism while you support a racial supremacist ideology that was influenced by European movements.

"Arsuzi formed the Arab Ba'ath Party in 1940 and his views influenced Aflaq who, alongside junior partner Salah al-Din al-Bitar, founded the Arab Ihya Movement in 1940 that later renamed itself the Arab Ba'ath Movement in 1943.
Arsuzi was an Arab from Alexandretta who had been associated with Arab nationalist politics during the interwar period. He was inspired by the French Revolution, the German and Italian unification movements, and the Japanese economic "miracle". His views were influenced by a number of prominent European and Eurasian philosophical and political figures, among them Georg Hegel, Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Oswald Spengler.
Arsuzi's Ba'ath Party believed in the virtues of the "one leader", and Arsuzi himself believed personally in the racial superiority of the Arabs. The party members read a lot of Nazi literature, such as The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, and they were one of the first groups to plan the translation of Mein Kampf into Arabic and they were also actively looking for a copy of The Myth of the Twentieth Century. Arsuzi was also influenced by the racial theories of Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Nazism. Arsuzi claimed that historically Islam and Muhammad had reinforced the nobility and purity of Arabs, which degenerated in purity because of the adoption of Islam by other people." A movement founded on the worst principles of fascism and socialism. Wonderful.

Anyways have fun blaming the evil Europeans and Jews for literally everything. Look at how much you've accomplished by doing so! Keep following outdated and self-destructive ideologies.

I have ***SOME*** Khaleeji ancestry on mother's side and I'm proud of it, but I'm mostly Adnanite, and yes, I live in Syria.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #182 on: March 18, 2017, 10:45:08 AM »
The Aryans will send you back to Africa. For the last 25 years the Arabs commited 2 GENOCIDES on Kurds. Now it is our turn. Arabs will experience the vendetta Kurds style very soon. You wanted to enslave the Aryans? For now on, you Semitic Africans will be our slaves for thousands for thousands of years to come.
Please do not speak in the name of kurds and Never call for genocide of any nation . You live in Gerogia and you know very little about kurds and kurdistan aside from the non sense you have been taught .

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #183 on: March 18, 2017, 10:47:13 AM »
If one looks like the reliefs and statues of Assyrian, chances are they're assyrian.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #184 on: March 18, 2017, 10:49:36 AM »
Ba'athism was literally funded by socialists you ****ing idiot, it has nothing to do with racial purity and Nazism, Saddam and Aflaq themselves spoke against it several times, Arsuzi was always ostracized by the Ba'athists.

Ba'athism has much more in common with Juche and Maoism (pan-Nationalism based on anti-western and anti-imperialist sentiment, third-world comradeship and socialism) than Nazism, actually it is you bloody ethno-separatist so-called ''assyrians'' and the Zionists who have much more in common with Nazis.

Outdated and self-destructive ideologies? The Ba'ath experience was very short and destroyed by the Jews, and its treacherous ethno-nationalist (like yourselves) and sectarianist lackeys within our nations, and the White Western attacking dogs, but considering this short experience we can testify the gloriousness of Ba'athism, under Ba'ath, Iraq was on the point of being considered a developed nation and has had the 4th biggest military in the world, Syria was also pretty developed (it still is), my own city Lattakia and most of Ba'ath controlled areas have pretty high standards of living, Ba'athism is the solution to the Arab nation, only with it we can be strong enough to fight Western colonial aggression like Salafism, Zionism  and direct invasions.

Yeah, I mentioned socialism in my comment. You think being similar to Juche and Maoism is a good thing? No wonder Ba'athism sucks so much. You have a state where majority of the population is starving under the rule of a fat man, and another state where 43 million people were killed within 3 years. And look how prosperous the rest of the socialist banana republics are today. Such wonderful inspirations. Ba'athism IS ethno-nationalism, it is literally Arab nationalism. Enjoy continuing losing.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #185 on: March 18, 2017, 10:50:05 AM »
Great Kurdistan will be independent very soon, from Amed to Kermanshah. And Arabs will be our n*gga's for thousands of years. They will do everything for Kurdistan, for the Aryan Kurds..

Disgusting Semitic monkeys and Mongolid Turks should know their place!
We do not want n*gga's or slaves . We want neighbors we can work and trade with .

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #186 on: March 18, 2017, 10:51:37 AM »
If one looks like the reliefs and statues of Assyrian, chances are they're assyrian.

That's funny considering the fact most so-called ''assyrians'' are bald headed midgets who look nothing like ancient statues loooool
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« Reply #187 on: March 18, 2017, 10:54:34 AM »
That's funny considering the fact most so-called ''assyrians'' are bald headed midgets who look nothing like ancient statues loooool

I look like them, except I haven't fully grown my beard to their awesome degree. I want to braid it one day.  :blush2:
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #188 on: March 18, 2017, 10:55:34 AM »
If anything, Kurds have Assyrian DNA in them, not the other way round.

You made me laugh :)

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #189 on: March 18, 2017, 12:54:23 PM »
I just looked up @ProudArab's Reddit comments. Turns out he was shadow-banned by /r/Arabs lmao. Not even his own people want to talk to him. Check out these threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/arabs/comments/5w3mwb/can_anyone_see_my_comments_and_posts/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firstdayontheinternet/comments/5w8n2i/why_cant_other_ppl_see_my_comments_and_posts/

Pretty much sums up this thread. We are wasting our time. Ignore this khmara and let him be on his way, he will inevitably get rejected by his own people again and blame a minority group for it (be it Israelis, Assyrians, or someone else)
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #190 on: March 18, 2017, 03:11:30 PM »
*200 replies* what are you morons doing? Stop FEEDING THE TROLL...

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« Reply #191 on: March 18, 2017, 03:42:29 PM »
He answered me in reddit  :bigarmhug: 7bibiiiii

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #192 on: March 18, 2017, 04:12:09 PM »
Oh no, our guest does not have a clue about genetics nor history nor anything he has brought up so far. He is erring faster than he can be patiently refuted.

To show that the gist of his entire argument about genetics is inherently foolish: Assyria was a multi-ethnic nation that imported various peoples from all over the Middle East, especially from the Fertile Crescent, Anatolia and the Caucasus. The haplogroup diversity and composition of modern Assyrians is exactly what one would expect as a result of the mass deportations, importations and assimilation programs practiced in the Neo-Assyrian Empire.

I would advise our guest to actually read about the topics he discusses before pontificating about them so erroneously.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #193 on: March 18, 2017, 06:21:02 PM »
*200 replies* what are you morons doing? Stop FEEDING THE TROLL...

That's the thing though. Going by his Reddit history, he's actually not trolling. He is truly as stupid as he appears to be

Another gem from his Reddit comments:

"...so-called ''assyrians'' in Australia who called me and my mother ''Muslim ****s'' and told us to back to our countries"

As expected, he got bullied in real life by an Assyrian and he was too much of a weakling to stand up for himself and his mother. So he has to get online and act e-tough to boost his self-esteem.

He is racist against our entire ethnicity because some random Assyrians-Australians told him to screw off. F'ing LOL

The most hilarious part is he is posting so many anti-western messages while living in the west. If he lived in the Middle-East he would likely be a soldier or dead by now. What an ungrateful idiot
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« Reply #194 on: March 18, 2017, 06:51:46 PM »
That's the thing though. Going by his Reddit history, he's actually not trolling. He is truly as stupid as he appears to be

Another gen from his Reddit comments:

"...so-called ''assyrians'' in Australia who called me and my mother ''Muslim ****s'' and told us to back to our countries"

As expected, he got bullied in real life by an Assyrian and he was too much of a weakling to stand up for himself and his mother. So he has to get online and act e-tough to boost his self-esteem.

He is racist against our entire ethnicity because some random Assyrians-Australians told him to screw off. F'ing LOL

The most hilarious part is he is posting so many anti-western messages while living in the west. If he lived in the Middle-East he would likely be a soldier or dead by now. What an ungrateful idiot

we call him Muslim trash and he takes offense as an Arab... whut lol.

Has he even seriously considered why we call him MUSLIM Trash and not 'Arab trash' ?

IMO, I have nothing at all against Arabs but Islam is just disgusting of a religion. ProudArab, you should consider leaving Islam.

Islam is not a good religion, look at my post on why Islam is not good -> http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/index.php?topic=47182.0

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #195 on: March 18, 2017, 08:32:50 PM »
Don't be cynical, cave dweller, I'm not talking about translated names, but identifying as a single ''''assyrian'''' ethnicity before the British contacted you mountain nomads and made you believe you were actual descendants of a long dead empire and ethnicity, there is no such thing as an ''''assyrian'''' identity ever since the Medes (rightfully) conquered it.

I don't care for your supposed DNA tests, the fact is, so-called ''''assyrians'''' are no more related to ancient Assyrians than your common Iraqi Arab, and why do you deny you have African blood when it is pretty obvious on the website I linked? Everyone from MENA has African ancestry but you only claim Arabs have it to sustain your disgusting racist rethoric because in your sick depraved mind darker = sub-humans and you'll always try to associate us with sub-humanity based on your Jewish and Western driven hatred. You can discredit my links as ''fallacious'' as easily as I can discredit yours, don't be preposterous.

Yes, you're a rural nomadic redneck ppl hostile and treacherous towards the Arab Iraqi nation being too stupid and kind enough to host you, who lives in secluded undeveloped hellhole villages, but that doesn't change the fact you're merely the result of admixute of Iranians, Arabs, Turks, Kurds, Afghanis and Caucasians, not the same ppl of the ancient Assyrians; lke I said, Europeans coined this identity with the sole purpose of dividing our Arab Nations, thankfully, the absolute majority of us, didn't fell under these gimmicks (not even our Xtians), as proved by the pathetic numbers of your kind worldwide (less than a million, lol).

And yes, your brethen who lives in Iraq and Syria are pretty much nomadic savages, especially compared to the Arab Urban folk (my Arab city of Lattakia is very beautiful) who lives in the coast. As for my religion practicing and advocating for any of these stuff, I won't even bother justify myself to a zionist lackey retard who uses Salafism as a scarecrow against my beautiful religion. And yes, Ancient Assyrian Empire was the Daesh and the Zionists of its time (inventors of mass deportations, biological warfare, and other know atrocities), what I find interesting however it's the fact that you nomads identify with them instead with the much more glorious Babylon, but that's understandable since Babylon was a very cosmopolitan, education driven Empire, much more similar to the Abassid Caliphate than to the so-called  modern ''''assyrians''''.
Give it up. Lol. You have nothing new. Even your Kurdish friends here hate you. Look, I'm sorry that Assyrians in Australia treat you like crap. Racism exists and bullying is a huge issue. Man up and deal with it. Don't let it out on the keyboard, you cowardly, brown, pedophile worshiper.

Zionism rules. You're butthurt about how successful they are and how much your nation is rotting in the desert. I love it. Let it out more, filthy Ay-rab.

Assyrians would be something between Caucasians & Aryans and the Southern Semites/Arabs.

Just take a look on the Assyran auDNA on Gedmatch.
Like what Macross said, compare modern Assyrians to other modern ethnicites. Stop going by ancient DNA samples.

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #196 on: March 18, 2017, 10:48:18 PM »
I don't live in Georgia. And ALL of my ancestors are from Ezdixan. My paternal tribe is from the heart of Shengal. I know more about my people, about my culture than your traitor Islamist kind will ever do.
Having ancestors from Kurdistan does not give you the right to speak this none sense in the name of kurds .  Never call for genocide or enslaving of  any nation  . 
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #197 on: March 18, 2017, 11:17:17 PM »
The first time I do agree with you. We don't want niggas around us. We don't ant niggas near us, because we don't like to mix with niggas.

You either misunderstood me or twisting my words which is very immature . Saying that "Arabs will be our n*gga's for thousands of years" is disrespectful , childish, racist and as kurds we are ,better than that . Instead of spreading your hatred and poison towards others , come to kurdistan and help with Yazidis you care about so much  , but that would take you out of your comfort zone . Most radical turks , arabs even assyrian speaks the same as you .They talk about the glory of the pasts and how they are going to destroy everyone , because they are special , pure blooded ,Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate . So do us a favor and never speak in Kurds name because it is embarrassing for us . 


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« Reply #198 on: March 18, 2017, 11:31:27 PM »
One of the reasons why I'm tellign you that Kurds are much more pure than Assyrians.
Kurds (& Persians) are still nowadays very, very close to the ancient Neolithic Zagros people. What have Assyrians or other Semites to do with the IRANID Zagros/Iranian Plateau neolithic farmers. NOTHING, since the Semites are related to the Levant farmers.

As far as I know there are 118 elements that have been identified on earth, of which the first 94 occur naturally with the remaining 24 being synthetic elements. So we are all made of the same thing , The rest is just lots of non sense period  .



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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #199 on: March 19, 2017, 01:08:03 AM »
I don't care what other say.

It is not about them, it is about me.
off course you do not care about what other say and the Others do not care about what you say too . That is how progress is made right ?

To shape your future and know your limits you need to know your past. Without past you are nothing. And what my Aryan people can achieve is limitless...
I guess adopted people should just kill themselves then and what is the "Aryan limits "? do we have better ears or noses , are we taller or smarter or faster ? Empires go up and down throughout histroy and kurds are no different , but that is all .

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« Reply #200 on: March 19, 2017, 01:22:07 AM »
What the f*! And what gives you the right to speak in the name of Kurds and giving me some lessons of wisdom? I'm sure you are not even a Kurd! Take your wisdom to Islamic monkeys and tell them that we are comming after them.

You call for genocide of other nations and you think as a Kurd i should not object ? Go crazy as you like with your posts and no one cares , but stop using Kurds as a tool for your genocidal mind . That is not us , perhaps you , but not us .

I say what I want to say, actuall I have got dozens of nephews & nieces, aunts & uncles, I'm not even talking about my parents nephews & nieces and their children, and all of them are pure blooded Ezdi and ALL of them think like me.
like i said , go crazy with your non sense , but do not speak for kurds . Thank you for pin pointing the source of your non sense .

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #201 on: March 19, 2017, 06:54:23 AM »
As far as I know there are 118 elements that have been identified on earth, of which the first 94 occur naturally with the remaining 24 being synthetic elements. So we are all made of the same thing , The rest is just lots of non sense period  .

Hi Nejepnerast. Please ignore him he has issues.

Where in Kurdistan are you from if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #202 on: March 19, 2017, 08:42:31 AM »
Why is it so hard to understand what I'm saying!

Kurds are much closer to the ancient people (Zagros Aryans) who lived 6000 years ago than Assyrians are (to the ancient Levant people). That means that Kurds are much, much more PURE than Assyrians are. Kurds are native to the Iranian Plateau/Zagros, Assyrians have nothing to do with it. So Kurds are much older people/race. PERIOD!
Nobody was saying that Kurds are not close to the ancient Zagros people, and whatnot. Frankly, I really don't care about other ethnic groups.

The fact is, Assyrians are virtually pure too (and that's what I care about). We lived in seclusion for centuries, and thus remained homogeneous. Did you see those charts in the previous page? We were completely Middle Eastern/Caucasian, with little traces of Southern Europe. Kurds had South Asian, east Asian and even eastern European. Who is mixed now?

If you want to go back 8000 years ago, of course we'll be a "mix" of southern Arabian tribes and East African, or whatever ethnic groups your sources show. All other "ancient" ethnicities within us have been deteriorated anyway, just like African (what all humans technically are). And this happens. Modern Assyrians barely have ethnic groups that exist outside of Mesopotamia.

If you're so "pure" why did you have "Semitic" ethnic groups such as Druze, Jewish and Assyrian in your Gedmatch results? Top 15 are all your close-calls.
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. - Charles Darwin

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #203 on: March 19, 2017, 10:51:09 AM »
Chaldeans are ethnic Assyrians.

The continual Assyrian practice of endogamy, has resulted in us being homogenous but even more importantly, has meant we have preserved the genetic distinctiveness of the Assyrians.

Contemporary day Assyrians are essentially the same stock of people from the Neo-Assyrian empire.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #204 on: March 19, 2017, 11:08:46 AM »
Chaldeans are ethnic Assyrians.

The continual Assyrian practice of endogamy, has resulted in us being homogenous but even more importantly, has meant we have preserved the genetic distinctiveness of the Assyrians.

Contemporary day Assyrians are essentially the same stock of people from the Neo-Assyrian empire.

Inbreeding you mean  :lmao:

No you are not pures, you cave dwelling monkeys, you are not the same of ancient Assyrians just like DNA tests proved (DNA tests that I actually linked), just how delusional can you people get anyway? You are mountain mongrels with an identity crisis created by British colonialists, nothing else.

Zionism rules? It rules indeed... it rules the West and any other nation foolishly enough to allow these parasites install puppet governments who will send most of the riches and resources of their host countries to maintain Kikestan and international globalist jewish bankers, Kikestan is an example of SUCESSFUL PARASITISM, nothing else.

No I don't live in West, I live in Syria and I'm damn proud of it, I live in a city located in a country in war with higher standards of living than all of you mountain gypsy village hellholes in Iraq. Arab country rotting in the desert? Most of our cities are located in the coast, the only ones rotting in DESERT MOUNTAINS and mass fleeing to your beloved West and Kikestan like rats are you, mountain mongrels, not us.

And do you seriously think I'm going to abandon my faith just because some Arab-hating, Jewish pawn kids in a troll Board with no knowledge of Islam with the exception of low quality posts from (((jewsnews))) and (((jihadwatch))) said so? Don't be ridiculous  :rofl2:

I haven't seen any hate from my Kurdish brothers and sisters, like I said, they are our brothers in faith and fighting the good fight against Daesh, different from you mountain mongrels who flee to the West like the cowards you are and then use Daesh as a scarecrow propaganda tool against Islam while actual MUSLIMS are fighting them. And I have NOTHING against Christians, Arab and Kurdish Christian brothers and sisters fight on our side, they even have their own ranks in Hezbollah. I'm only against ethno-separatism, zionist lemming scum like you mountain gypsies, nothing else.

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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #205 on: March 19, 2017, 11:30:38 AM »
> Claims Assyrians practiced endogamy in the form of interbreeding, which, despite being fallacious, would result in a genetic maintenance.
> Contemporary Assyrians are not the same as Ancient Assyrians.

It must be hard being as spastic as you are.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #206 on: March 19, 2017, 02:00:35 PM »
Hi Nejepnerast. Please ignore him he has issues.

Where in Kurdistan are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Silav Kak Alan1 , Ce neya u ce debijit bela bija , belam na bet wa be navi kurda baxevet .  Ez ji bajari dohukima, tu xalki kiveya ?

The English version just in Case :): There is no issue ,she can say whatever she want . I just do not want her to speak in the name of kurds . I'm from Dohuk , where are you from ?
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #207 on: March 19, 2017, 03:43:47 PM »
Silav Kak Alan1 , Ce neya u ce debijit bela bija , belam na bet wa be navi kurda baxevet .  Ez ji bajari dohukima, tu xalki kiveya ?

The English version just in Case :): There is no issue ,she can say whatever she want . I just do not want her to speak in the name of kurds . I'm from Dohuk , where are you from ?

Slaw bran. Sorani tedagey? E xoshal bom ba nasinit. A min xalki qaladzem dazani la Kweya? Dazanim balam aw sheta la shweni ka lagal kurdan har wa raftar daka. La kurdistan dajey?

Don't want to disrespect your forum so here's a translation: nice to meet you bro. I'm from Qaladze, I know but he's crazy he behaves the same way towards other Kurds. P.s I'm pretty sure it's he's a man.
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #208 on: March 19, 2017, 05:50:37 PM »
Slaw bran. Sorani tedagey? E xoshal bom ba nasinit. A min xalki qaladzem dazani la Kweya? Dazanim balam aw sheta la shweni ka lagal kurdan har wa raftar daka. La kurdistan dajey?

Don't want to disrespect your forum so here's a translation: nice to meet you bro. I'm from Qaladze, I know but he's crazy he behaves the same way towards other Kurds. P.s I'm pretty sure it's he's a man.
Bexos halbum , Yes I do speak both Sorani and Behdini equally .
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Re: The so called ''assyrian'' persecution, give me SOURCES
« Reply #209 on: March 19, 2017, 09:48:24 PM »
That's becasue they have Iranian DNA in them. Those groups were the most mixed people of the ancient times. Druze, Jewish and Assyrian are not fully Semitic. BECAUSE of their minor Iranian (Aryan) DNA in them they cluster closer to the REAL Aryans, the Kurds.

Why I get people like Chaldeans in my top 20 in my Gedmatch? That's because of them who are heavily mixed with Kurds. Kurds are still very close to the ancient samples, while Chaldeans are NOT to their ancestors.

People like Chaldeans are maybe even more Iranian than Semitic. But you can have them to make your population bigger. You need it.

Chaldeans are ethnically, biologically, genetically Assyrian. They are usually the fairest-skinned and light-featured of the Assyrians in general. Don't tell me you "prioritized" them because of their rather Nordic visage. -_-

From what I remember, you got "Assyrian" written in your Gedmatch. I didn't see Chaldean. But that doesn't mean they're two different ethnic groups. Iranian Assyrian (Urmians) tend to look the most Iranid (and I have given nods to this before). So maybe you can say they have been mixed with with Iranians. And by "Iranian look", I mean this (Urmians tend to look like this guy - it's sort of a light South Asian cum Afghani look, which still retains Middle Eastern characteristics):



Of course Assyrians, Druze, etc, are not "fully Semitic". There is no such thing as a Semitic race. You can call it the Levantine race (and you've mentioned Levantine farmers or something), because I can agree that Assyrians, Lebanese (Maronites/Phoenicians) and some Syrian Christians tend to lookalike. "Semitic" is a language family that's spoken by Western Asians, North Africans and Eastern Africans. Surely (and you know it) they are not a homogeneous single race (and don't bring up 10,000 years ago when folks were still coming out of Africa and to the Middle East). Even "Aryan" is not a race, but a mere subculture and language family. And if we're mixed, you're mixed too. Don't be so biased.
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