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« on: December 21, 2005, 09:04:28 PM »


In response to RateAssyrians previous thread about Chaldeans voting for Kurds, I think this is why you think the majority of Chaldeans in northern Iraq voted for the Kurds!

Voting Center Number
Location
Irregularities Reported
 
313006
Telsqof
Voting center director refused to allow more than one representative at a time even though the center contained several voting booths to monitor. Kurdish national guards were stationed along the path to the center, intimidating voters on their way to vote and telling them to vote for the Kurdish list.

306008
Faqeeruk
Voters were not allowed to vote and their entrance to the voting center was impeded. Faqeeruk is predominantly Arab.

315004
Mosul
Kurdish militia (Peshmarga) working as national guards forbade observers and political representatives from entering the voting center.

301005
Mosul
Bida'a court center Voting center workers were, in broad day light, forging ballots with the help of the national guards all for the 730 Kurdish list.

332
Ba'shiqa
Peshmarga were at all times inside the voting center asking the voters who they are voting for. If it was for the Kurdish list, the forms were taken from them and filled out for the Kurdish list and submitted on their behalf.

320005
Sinjar (Qaboosia school)
predominantly Yazidi Kurdish militia (Peshmarga) working as national guards forbiade observers and political representatives from entering the voting center. Some were followed and arrested.

319002
Qaraqosh (Bakhdeda),
elementary school center Armed KDP Peshmaraga surrounded the entrances to the voting center and intimidated the voters to vote for the kurdish list.

313005
Batnaya (Telkaif district)
KDP representative along with the mayor were walking inside the voting center so that the voters had no privacy and pressuring them to vote for 730. Untill 12 noon, many voters were rejected on account that their names were not found in the list of residents of Batnaya.

331003
Shaikha Hamurabi school
Kurdish Intelligence forces (Asayesh) kicked out the political observer for the Kurdistan Islamic union and threatened to arrest him should he return. Pressure was exerted on the voters by the above to vote for 730.

315001
Wana District
director, Ali Muhamad Salih started filling out many elections forms on behalf of voters waiting in line all for the 730 Kurdish list.

304006
Karfaq
high school voting center Director of the center Abdallah Muhamad Ahmad did not allow observers to enter the center except those who are supporters of the Kurdistani list. This also took place in all the voting centers in the Zamar District.



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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2005, 10:10:28 PM »
DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2005, 10:12:43 PM »
u know whats funny, even with all those factors in consideration, the chaldean towns mentioned, in total, they still managed to out vote the total votes for zowaa for the assyrians living in chicago and Cali.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2005, 10:12:58 PM »
expected from a muslim democracy :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2005, 11:07:14 PM »
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u know whats funny, even with all those factors in consideration, the chaldean towns mentioned, in total, they still managed to out vote the total votes for zowaa for the assyrians living in chicago and Cali.

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its funny how you say that because the 30,000 eligble Iraqi Assyrians here in Chicago managed to vote 4 times more then the 120,000 Iraqi Chaldean population in detriot...
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2005, 11:10:16 PM »
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u know whats funny, even with all those factors in consideration, the chaldean towns mentioned, in total, they still managed to out vote the total votes for zowaa for the assyrians living in chicago and Cali.

wheres RateAssyrians now?


its funny how you say that because the 30,000 eligble Iraqi Assyrians here in Chicago managed to vote 4 times more then the 120,000 Iraqi Chaldean population in detriot...


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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2005, 11:13:49 PM »
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DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?


yes i do... the majority of chaldeans in iraq and other arab countries consider themselfs either arab or kurdish... the chaldeans of iran consider themselfs as persians... no matter where in the world you go, a chaldean will most likey not say assyrian or chaldean


think about that for a minute because its pure fact, those have lived in iraq would know
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2005, 11:15:31 PM »
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u know whats funny, even with all those factors in consideration, the chaldean towns mentioned, in total, they still managed to out vote the total votes for zowaa for the assyrians living in chicago and Cali.

wheres RateAssyrians now?


its funny how you say that because the 30,000 eligble Iraqi Assyrians here in Chicago managed to vote 4 times more then the 120,000 Iraqi Chaldean population in detriot...



ok.. chicago population...
90,000

http://ado-world.org/en/news.php?id=1173&lang=en

Total voted for zowaa
4191



Cali. poplulation
65,000
http://ado-world.org/en/news.php?id=1173&lang=en

total voted for zowaa
San fran. 812
L.A 133
San diago 509

http://www.zindamagazine.com/Dec15/Results.php

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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2005, 11:16:12 PM »
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DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?


yes i do... the majority of chaldeans in iraq and other arab countries consider themselfs either arab or kurdish... the chaldeans of iran consider themselfs as persians... no matter where in the world you go, a chaldean will most likey not say assyrian or chaldean


think about that for a minute because its pure fact, those have lived in iraq would know


nasha why do U bother yourself......if they want to get screwed over by Muslims then that is their problem
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2005, 11:16:28 PM »
whereis ur beloved assyrians now?

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2005, 11:17:04 PM »
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ok.. chicago population...
90,000

http://ado-world.org/en/news.php?id=1173&lang=en

Total voted for zowaa
4191



ELIGABLE VOTERS IS ONLY 30,000 IN CHICAGO WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND?
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2005, 11:18:30 PM »
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DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?


yes i do... the majority of chaldeans in iraq and other arab countries consider themselfs either arab or kurdish... the chaldeans of iran consider themselfs as persians... no matter where in the world you go, a chaldean will most likey not say assyrian or chaldean


think about that for a minute because its pure fact, those have lived in iraq would know


WHERE DO U GET UR INFORMATION FROM..IAM CHALDEAN AND I DONT SAY IAM ARAB OR KURDISH..SOME ASSYRIANS IN AUSTRALIA CALLED THEMSELF IRAQIS TOO...BUT WHOEVER WANA SAY THEY ARABZ OR WATEVA ITS THEIR PROBLEM

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2005, 11:19:05 PM »
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ok.. chicago population...
90,000

http://ado-world.org/en/news.php?id=1173&lang=en

Total voted for zowaa
4191



ELIGABLE VOTERS IS ONLY 30,000 IN CHICAGO WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND?


only 33% are eligible to vote?  where did u come up that number?

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2005, 11:19:52 PM »
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DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?


yes i do... the majority of chaldeans in iraq and other arab countries consider themselfs either arab or kurdish... the chaldeans of iran consider themselfs as persians... no matter where in the world you go, a chaldean will most likey not say assyrian or chaldean


think about that for a minute because its pure fact, those have lived in iraq would know


nasha why do U bother yourself......if they want to get screwed over by Muslims then that is their problem


your right... chaldeans are a lost cause... Assyrian have wasted to much time and money trying in trying to get them to take a stand for themselfs... Zowaa is doing nothing but wasting time and lossing support by trying to get chaldeans to unite with Assyrians
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2005, 11:21:04 PM »
there are only a few chaldeans that call them selves arabs.. and there are some chaldeans whoa re arabs yet belong to chaldean church.  Thats soemthign that has to go through hyour head.  the majority of chaldeans callt hemsleves either chaldean, or assyrian.  in iraq, no one went by the name chaldean or assyrian, but as Mass7ee (christian), in soureth, we say were souraye.  one  after everyone left iraq they start coming out with this BS names, assyrians, chaldean, seriani, whatever.

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2005, 11:21:38 PM »
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SOME ASSYRIANS IN AUSTRALIA CALLED THEMSELF IRAQIS TOO...


saying Iraqi is completely diffrent then saying Arab or kurdish
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2005, 11:24:16 PM »
the majority of assyrians have abandoned nineveh plains for arabs and kurds, and now you guys have more political parties in the west, then the actual assyrian population in iraq.  
On top of that, You guys never gave a damn about chaldeans until elections came up, then all the sudden there was this chaldoasshuree and all this "unity", where was it before hte elections?

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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2005, 11:24:49 PM »
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DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER AGAINST CHALDEANS OR SOMETHING?


yes i do... the majority of chaldeans in iraq and other arab countries consider themselfs either arab or kurdish... the chaldeans of iran consider themselfs as persians... no matter where in the world you go, a chaldean will most likey not say assyrian or chaldean


think about that for a minute because its pure fact, those have lived in iraq would know


nasha why do U bother yourself......if they want to get screwed over by Muslims then that is their problem


your right... chaldeans are a lost cause... Assyrian have wasted to much time and money trying in trying to get them to take a stand for themselfs... Zowaa is doing nothing but wasting time and lossing support by trying to get chaldeans to unite with Assyrians


CHALDEANS R NOT A LOST CAUSE...EVEN SOME ASSYRIANS HEREE R LOST CAUSE COZ THEY CALLED THEMSELF ASSYRIANS 2 MINUTE LATER THEY IN THE CAR PUTTING ARAB MUSIC AND SINGING IN ARABIC AND WHEN U TELL THEM WHAT U LISTENING TO OHHH OUR MUSIC OH PLZZ ....ALOT OF ASSYRIANS HERE DONT EVEN SAY WE ASSYRIANS!!! MOST OF CHALDEANS SAY THEY IRAQI'S COZ ITS OUR HOME LAND THATS ABOUT IT..WE NOT FUKING ARABZ OR KURDISH CRAP

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2005, 11:26:51 PM »
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in iraq, no one went by the name chaldean or assyrian, but as Mass7ee (christian), in soureth, we say were souraye.  one  after everyone left iraq they start coming out with this BS names, assyrians, chaldean, seriani, whatever.


here is where your wrong agian... my parents, uncles and aunts have always said Assyrian(Ashuri)... they have never told people they are christian arab or christian kurd... My aunt who had one of the highest engineering postions in Kikuks oil field lost her job because she refused to say shes either arab or kurd...  you think every one says just "christian" but i cant blame you, being a the chaldean you are
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2005, 11:28:56 PM »
RATE U SAYING CHALDEAN SHOULD CALL THEMSELF ASSYRIANS LA
THEN YNOT U CALL URSELF CHALDEAN IF WE ALL SAME HA

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2005, 11:29:22 PM »
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EVEN SOME ASSYRIANS HEREE R LOST CAUSE COZ THEY CALLED THEMSELF ASSYRIANS 2 MINUTE LATER THEY IN THE CAR PUTTING ARAB MUSIC AND SINGING IN ARABIC AND WHEN U TELL THEM WHAT U LISTENING TO OHHH OUR MUSIC OH PLZZ ....


if i listen to spanish music does that make me a mexican... alot of people encluding non middle easterns like to listen to arabic music... Music is music what does that have to do with anything
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2005, 11:30:09 PM »
All this hatred and anger because of me! :devil:

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2005, 11:31:10 PM »
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in iraq, no one went by the name chaldean or assyrian, but as Mass7ee (christian), in soureth, we say were souraye.  one  after everyone left iraq they start coming out with this BS names, assyrians, chaldean, seriani, whatever.


here is where your wrong agian... my parents, uncles and aunts have always said Assyrian(Ashuri)... they have never told people they are christian arab or christian kurd... My aunt who had one of the highest engineering postions in Kikuks oil field lost her job because she refused to say shes either arab or kurd...  you think every one says just "christian" but i cant blame you, being a the chaldean you are


where are ur family now??  are they in ur beloved "NINEVEH" right now, rebuilding their villages? claiming their assyrians.. fighting for the cause of zowaa? r assyrian building more church? or simply abandoning them? or are they in the west enjoying their freedom?
 lemme tell u soemhting about chaldeans on the other hand, El qosh is still standing up, Tel keppe is still standing up, Tel esqosf is still standing, Daweadeya is being rebuilt, more beautiful then it ever was., and a number of other villages... there are more chaldean churchs being built in iraq, 75% of christians in iraq are chaldeans.. where are ur assyrians now?

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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2005, 11:32:27 PM »
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RATE U SAYING CHALDEAN SHOULD CALL THEMSELF ASSYRIANS LA
THEN YNOT U CALL URSELF CHALDEAN IF WE ALL SAME HA


chaldeans are Assyrians
Assyrians aren't chaldeans

chaldean are nothing but Assyrian who are catholics... if you do claim to be a historical chaldean then why are all your chaldean villages in the heart land of Assyrian... why are they all around the capital of Assyria?
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2005, 11:33:07 PM »
why bother arguing like a bunch of monkey's?  you're just throwing bs at one another.  if it makes you all feel better, you're arguing on ASSYRIAN VOICE FORUMS!  I would think the term hypocrite would apply.  Now go eat an apple, back a pie, or play in the snow.

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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2005, 11:33:44 PM »
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EVEN SOME ASSYRIANS HEREE R LOST CAUSE COZ THEY CALLED THEMSELF ASSYRIANS 2 MINUTE LATER THEY IN THE CAR PUTTING ARAB MUSIC AND SINGING IN ARABIC AND WHEN U TELL THEM WHAT U LISTENING TO OHHH OUR MUSIC OH PLZZ ....


if i listen to spanish music does that make me a mexican... alot of people encluding non middle easterns like to listen to arabic music... Music is music what does that have to do with anything


IAM NOT SAYING LISTENIN TO ANY MUSIC WOULD CHANGE WHO U R..IAM SAYING WHEN U TELL THEM WHAT U LISTENING TOO THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY OUR MUSIC AND SAYING WE ALSO AN ARABZ TOO


TO ME AND ALOT OF CHALDEANS OUT THERE..WE CHALDEANS AND WE DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ASSYRIANS ..COZ AS FAR AS I KNOW WE ALL GET ALONG

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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2005, 11:34:16 PM »
The never ending battle.


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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2005, 11:34:16 PM »
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lemme tell u soemhting about chaldeans on the other hand, El qosh is still standing up, Tel keppe is still standing up, Tel esqosf is still standing, Daweadeya is being rebuilt, more beautiful then it ever was., and a number of other villages... there are more chaldean churchs being built in iraq, 75% of christians in iraq are chaldeans.. where are ur assyrians now?


kissing ass to arabs and kurds will save your life... assyrians left because they had to leave...
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2005, 11:34:44 PM »
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RATE U SAYING CHALDEAN SHOULD CALL THEMSELF ASSYRIANS LA
THEN YNOT U CALL URSELF CHALDEAN IF WE ALL SAME HA


chaldeans are Assyrians
Assyrians aren't chaldeans

chaldean are nothing but Assyrian who are catholics... if you do claim to be a historical chaldean then why are all your chaldean villages in the heart land of Assyrian... why are they all around the capital of Assyria?



THEN CHALDEANS AINT ASSYRIAN TOO

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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2005, 11:35:41 PM »
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RATE U SAYING CHALDEAN SHOULD CALL THEMSELF ASSYRIANS LA
THEN YNOT U CALL URSELF CHALDEAN IF WE ALL SAME HA


chaldeans are Assyrians
Assyrians aren't chaldeans

chaldean are nothing but Assyrian who are catholics... if you do claim to be a historical chaldean then why are all your chaldean villages in the heart land of Assyrian... why are they all around the capital of Assyria?


i dont have a problem claiming in assyrian.. its the churchs that that have seperate us by name.. but its peopel like u who have seperated chaldeans from assyrians in the psychological state also.

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2005, 11:35:49 PM »
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The never ending battle.



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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2005, 11:36:36 PM »
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chaldean are nothing but Assyrian who are catholics... if you do claim to be a historical chaldean then why are all your chaldean villages in the heart land of Assyrian... why are they all around the capital of Assyria?


Have you heard of Mongols and Tatars? That should answer your question why Chaldeans live in the nineveh plains!

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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2005, 11:37:31 PM »
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RATE U SAYING CHALDEAN SHOULD CALL THEMSELF ASSYRIANS LA
THEN YNOT U CALL URSELF CHALDEAN IF WE ALL SAME HA


chaldeans are Assyrians
Assyrians aren't chaldeans

chaldean are nothing but Assyrian who are catholics... if you do claim to be a historical chaldean then why are all your chaldean villages in the heart land of Assyrian... why are they all around the capital of Assyria?



THEN CHALDEANS AINT ASSYRIAN TOO


are you stupid.. didn't you just read what i wrote... chaldeans of today have no relation to the chaldeans of 3,000 years ago....  the real chaldeans of today are the people living in falluga, najaf and karbela... they are chaldean real chaldeans unlike the people who live in the capital of assyria
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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2005, 11:37:50 PM »
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lemme tell u soemhting about chaldeans on the other hand, El qosh is still standing up, Tel keppe is still standing up, Tel esqosf is still standing, Daweadeya is being rebuilt, more beautiful then it ever was., and a number of other villages... there are more chaldean churchs being built in iraq, 75% of christians in iraq are chaldeans.. where are ur assyrians now?


kissing ass to arabs and kurds will save your life... assyrians left because they had to leave...


its not called kissing ass.. its called living side-by-side with other kinds, just like what were taught to do by our church.  

assyrian had to leave??  Did chaldeans have more rights then assyrians in iraq?

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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2005, 11:38:12 PM »
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The never ending battle.



ditto.....I'm an assy/chaldo and I think a lot of us are mixed so lets get over it
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