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The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« on: July 31, 2010, 09:32:48 AM »
There are people from certain Assyrian groups, that is almost impossible to find them in certain spots in Northern Iraq.

For example, it is very rare to find Ourmejnaye in Nohadra or in the Nineveh Plains?

It is also very rare to find a Jilwaya in Nohadra as well...


Things may have changed recently, but this was the case before. Do you know any exceptions to this?


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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 07:49:51 AM »
There are people from certain Assyrian groups, that is almost impossible to find them in certain spots in Northern Iraq.

For example, it is very rare to find Ourmejnaye in Nohadra or in the Nineveh Plains?

It is also very rare to find a Jilwaya in Nohadra as well...


Things may have changed recently, but this was the case before. Do you know any exceptions to this?


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I believe most ourmenaye are in usa and few in Eu countries. Nohdra Assyrian´s are Assyrians from Nineve Plain and from Nohdra district( dohuk region)

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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 11:37:42 PM »
There are people from certain Assyrian groups, that is almost impossible to find them in certain spots in Northern Iraq.

For example, it is very rare to find Ourmejnaye in Nohadra or in the Nineveh Plains?

It is also very rare to find a Jilwaya in Nohadra as well...


Things may have changed recently, but this was the case before. Do you know any exceptions to this?


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Most of the Ourmejnaye that I know followed the Soviets back through the Caucasus and into the Ukraine and Russia to escape the slaughter of the last century.  Many still live there. 

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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 01:53:21 PM »
Most of the Ourmejnaye that I know followed the Soviets back through the Caucasus and into the Ukraine and Russia to escape the slaughter of the last century.  Many still live there. 

Have many assimilated?
“Their enemies had realized their national potential long before the Assyrians themselves. The enemy was not afraid of good farmers, good parents, good church-going parishioners...the enemy was afraid of Assyrians wrapped in nationhood.”

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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 03:07:29 PM »
Have many assimilated?

Yes, I am sorry to say.  The most tragic aspect of our culture that has been lost --at least in regard to the Assyrians of Ukraine-- is our language.  This is the unfortunate consequence of the institutionalized mechanisms employed throughout Soviet society, beginning with most earnest zeal in 1937, to extinguish ethnic identities inconsistent with the perverted collectivist ideals of the Soviet state. The last few generations to be born, assuming an Assyrian mother and father, speak little to no Assyrian.  There are exceptions, but this does appear to be the general rule.  The Soviets, if today's Assyrian population never recovers, will have succeeded gloriously at eliminating the most vital aspect of our unique identity. 

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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 06:40:37 PM »
Most of the Ourmejnaye that I know followed the Soviets back through the Caucasus and into the Ukraine and Russia to escape the slaughter of the last century.  Many still live there. 

I believe you right, cause if you go back to 1920 allmost  Assyrians from Urima moved to Russia at the begning and then from Russia they divide to differents countries...

I have seen some ukrianian´s Assyrians, its so sad that our people getting assimilated all over the world..


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Re: The Rarity of Certain Assyrian Groups in Northern Iraq
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 09:21:49 PM »
I thought Urmians were from Urmia and Jilwayehs from Jelu? And what would Urmians be doing in the Nineveh Plains? So many of them moved to Habbaniya, btw. They prefer cities rather than villages.

What's strange is that Tyareyehs who come from Syria tend to have their own distinct accent. They sound like they have a French accent. Listen to Lida Lawando when she speaks and the late radio host Margo Zindo Hawil.
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