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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #525 on: June 28, 2016, 11:32:15 AM »
Sharukinu, l am sorry for not responding, l was busy, but isnt we modern Assyrians, because sumerians and akkadians created the ancient assyrians,  and therefore sumerians and akkadians are "we", and because sumerians and akkadians created the ancient babylonians, which means that the ancient babylonians are also "we", ancient babylonians being the same people as ancient assyrians, and because they(arameans,hurrians etc) became Assyrianised and became ancient assyrians, and therefore its also "we". They (sumerians, ancient Aramaeans etc) belong to our people,  the modern Assyrians (suroyo,suraya).

I think that we have the most connection to the ancient assyrians, but because the sumerians and akkadians created the ancient assyrians "we" are also the Sumerians and akkadians, and the arameans etc, is this correct?

Ps, when l say "we" l mean modern Assyrians (suroyo,suraya)

Yes. This is true however, by having various ancestors, we have a little bit of genes from each. The more races we derive from, the less we become likely to reflect any particular one of them. On the other hand, all these populations that we're discussing already mixed by the Neo-Assyrian Empire at the latest. That means that even 2600 years ago, most of our ancestors were Assyrian citizens who had this mixed ancestry.
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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #526 on: July 01, 2016, 01:01:26 PM »
Yes. This is true however, by having various ancestors, we have a little bit of genes from each. The more races we derive from, the less we become likely to reflect any particular one of them. On the other hand, all these populations that we're discussing already mixed by the Neo-Assyrian Empire at the latest. That means that even 2600 years ago, most of our ancestors were Assyrian citizens who had this mixed ancestry.

But is it true that we have the most connection to the ancient assyrian history? Also the Akkadian, sumerian, Aramean etc history,  but the most connection to the ancient assyrian history?
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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #527 on: July 01, 2016, 05:28:54 PM »
But is it true that we have the most connection to the ancient assyrian history? Also the Akkadian, sumerian, Aramean etc history,  but the most connection to the ancient assyrian history?

By descending from the citizens of the Neo-Assyrian Empire, we are ultimately descended from the rest.
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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #527 on: July 01, 2016, 05:28:54 PM »

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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #528 on: December 19, 2016, 09:23:03 PM »
In the beginning of December 2016, the Assyrian professor Efrem Yildiz was invited to the Assyro-Chaldean club in Mechelen, Belgium, to lecture about Assyrian identity, especially the different names within the Assyrian people. The club is inside the building of the Chaldean church in the city. When Patriarch Louis Sako heard about the lecture, he ordered the local priests to boycott it and to tell their congregation not to attend. However, about a hundred members of the club did attend, because Prof. Yildiz is an appreciated scholar who knows many of them personally. The reason Patriarch Saco tried to stop the lecture may have been a letter of Prof. Yildiz to him last year when Patriarch Sako established a Chaldean League in Paris, where he denounces any connection to the Assyrians.He also wonders how a Chaldean patriarch would like to create a Chaldean nation in Nineveh – the heartland of Ashur.

Prof. Yildiz is determined to reject such divisive acts whoever is committing them. He is a member of Chaldean Catholic church of Babylon and urges Assyrian cleric not to interfere in politics, because this has harmed the Assyrian Nation in the past, he says from his office in the University of Salamanca, Spain, where he holds the professur in Semitic languages.


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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #529 on: December 19, 2016, 09:48:00 PM »
^Thanks for the info, Ashoor. It's a shame how the actions of a few ignorant/selfish leaders can harm the Assyrian community at large and keep us divided into religious sects.
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Re: Crusade against the Assyrian name
« Reply #530 on: March 04, 2018, 06:41:31 AM »
Michael the Great is The Only one saying we are assyrians, is There anyone else in our community that said it? Someone living in ancient times

 

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