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Culture & History / Re: Maloula ASSYRIANS?
« Last post by mrzurnaci on April 17, 2018, 02:54:55 PM »
There are also Jews? But l understand your point.

those Jews that speak Eastern Aramaic are Assyrian jews though.
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Is that an error?  Did you edit more than you needed?
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Chit Chat / Re: Why not many active here
« Last post by Crocodile Bani on April 16, 2018, 09:13:50 AM »
Coincidentally, enough, today is our 19th anniversary. Assyrian Voice was founded on this day (April 15) in 1999!


ASHOOR
Congratulations.  Still remember a young Ashoor telling me what an awesome website I had.  Such a compliment considering what you have achieved in the last 19 years.
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Chit Chat / Re: Why not many active here
« Last post by ASHOOR on April 15, 2018, 10:26:34 PM »
Coincidentally, enough, today is our 19th anniversary. Assyrian Voice was founded on this day (April 15) in 1999!


ASHOOR
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"Assyrian /ˈsɪri.æk/ (ܠܫܢܐ ܣܘܪܝܝܐ Leššānā Suryāyā), also known as Assyrian Aramaic or Classical Assyrian,[4][5][6] is a dialect of Middle Aramaic that is the minority language of indigenous ethnic Assyrians/Syriacs in south eastern Turkey, northern Iraq, northeastern Syria and North western Iran. It is also the liturgical language of several churches, in particular the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, Assyrian Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church, Chaldean Catholic Church and Maronite Church."

The name syriac doesnt exist, its real name is assyrian. I changed the name syriac into assyrian and now it looks much better.
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On wikipedia they call our language neo aramaic, l think its wrong because mandaic and western aramaic is included with neo aramaic, maybe it should be called Assyrian (assyrian, chaldean, turoyo), what do you think? usually when someone say what language do you speak, l say west assyrian but l dont know if its wrong or right.

One more thing, what should our language be named in wikipedia if we get a region or country in the future? Assyrian, syriac, neo aramaic? or maybe something else.
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Culture & History / Re: Maloula ASSYRIANS?
« Last post by Nemrud on April 13, 2018, 09:44:13 AM »
who else speaks Eastern Aramaic other than Mandeans? Mandeans number only 70K

There are also Jews? But l understand your point.
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classical sureth can easily be learned though. Also, how different is Classical from Modern anyway? Looking at classical and the modern dialects, it's not too radically different that we can't learn it.

I know you want it to be teached but i dont think that will happen, Syria Kurdistan is teaching syriac, West and East, lf i understand it correctly.
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If we get a region or a country we wont be teaching classical syriac. Now you might ask how do you know that? because syriac is the official language of syria kurdistan and we arent teaching classical syriac at all, only west and east assyrian.

Syriac-Aramaic mainly in the Surayt/Turoyo and Assyrian Neo-Aramaic varieties (mainly Classical Syriac in writing), Northwest Semitic languages from the Semitic language family.
In August 2016, the Ourhi Centre was founded by the Assyrian community in the city of Qamishli, to educate teachers in order to make Assyrian Neo-Aramaic an additional language to be taught in public schools in the Jazira Canton in Rojava,[26] which then started with the 2016/17 academic year.

And guess what, l am happy about it. I dont want classical syriac to be teached for one reason, NOONE can speak it. I speak west assyrian and l want the future children of our region to also speak it and east assyrian so that we evolve our language together. I and many other might be too old to learn a new language and beside we speak eastern aramaic and our assyrian language evolved naturally to be this language we speak today, and we also have akkadian loanwords in it, why change that? l dont care about old books, west and east assyrian should and will be official languages. We could for example make west assyrian for science and east assyrian for something else....



classical sureth can easily be learned though. Also, how different is Classical from Modern anyway? Looking at classical and the modern dialects, it's not too radically different that we can't learn it.
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Culture & History / Re: Maloula ASSYRIANS?
« Last post by mrzurnaci on April 12, 2018, 08:32:05 PM »
But WHY are we West and East assyrians, is it because we call ourselves suroyo/suraya and our language suraya = syriac=assyrian? Syriac was one East Aramaic developed from the neo assyrian empire, While the West Aramaic of the Arameans are Almost extinct, the East Aramaic is dominant of the Assyrians and other Peoples?

Subdivisions
Assyrian Neo-Aramaic
Lishanid Noshan
Bohtan Neo-Aramaic
Barzani Jewish Neo-Aramaic
Chaldean Neo-Aramaic
Hértevin
Hulaulá
Koy Sanjaq Surat
Lishana Deni
Senaya
Lishán Didán
Jewish Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

These languages are all northeastern neoaramaic, East assyrian is among it. We must not forget that the Assyrian empire Made Aramaic its official language so we cant say we are the Only people that speak eastern Aramaic, There May be other people in Mesopotamia that spoke it. The language cant make us assyrians, even if it is part of it, There are even Jews that speak eastern Aramaic.

who else speaks Eastern Aramaic other than Mandeans? Mandeans number only 70K
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