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Akkadian
« on: June 29, 2017, 09:05:27 PM »
How much akkadian is in modern assyrian?



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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2017, 09:40:59 AM »
Are there akkadian words in our aramaic because akkadian is related to aramaic?

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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2017, 02:23:47 PM »
Are there akkadian words in our aramaic because akkadian is related to aramaic?
not really. Akkadian is Eastern Semitic, Aramaic, Arabic, and Hebrew are Western Semitic.

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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2017, 04:51:33 PM »
The Akkadians lived in central Mesopotamia, north of the Sumerians. They spoke Akkadian, which is distantly related to Arabic, Hebrew and Aramaic. In 2334 BCE the Akkadian ruler Sargon conquered the Sumerians, creating the world's first empire. (It lasted about two centuries then collapsed into multiple smaller states.) The Akkadians admired and copied Sumerian culture even as they invaded them.

Here they say they are related?  but l dont know what distantly mean....

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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2017, 05:08:43 PM »
The Akkadians lived in central Mesopotamia, north of the Sumerians. They spoke Akkadian, which is distantly related to Arabic, Hebrew and Aramaic. In 2334 BCE the Akkadian ruler Sargon conquered the Sumerians, creating the world's first empire. (It lasted about two centuries then collapsed into multiple smaller states.) The Akkadians admired and copied Sumerian culture even as they invaded them.

Here they say they are related?  but l dont know what distantly mean....

It means that even though Akkadian is a Semitic language, it's very different from Arabic and Aramaic.

In Sureth, we have special sounds like 'Eh (ܥ) and HHeth (ܚ). Arabic and Original Hebrew has those sounds.

Akkadian didn't have those sounds though. They did have Teth (ܛ), Sade (ܨ), and Khaph (ܟ݂) but no "HH" or "'E" sound.

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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2017, 06:27:54 PM »
Why do we then have akkadian words in our aramaic?

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Re: Akkadian
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 02:38:25 AM »
Why do we then have akkadian words in our aramaic?

because when ancient Assyrians conquered the Aramean kingdoms, they forced many Arameans to live in Mesopotamia, spreading Aramaic to the point where even Akkadians were speaking more Aramaic than Akkadian.

It's just like how Akkadian became more dominant than Sumerian but Akkadian itself still used Sumerian words. This time it's Aramaic that dominates over Akkadian but the tradition is upheld by Aramaic having Akkadian words.

This didn't happen too fast. Before the empire fell, Aramaic AND Akkadian were both the official languages.

according to -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_language#Ancient_Aramaic

Assyria was becoming bilingual in what is now Gzarto region! So the Syrian portion of Assyrian was when our ancient ancestors were starting to adopt Aramaic with Akkadian. Tiglath-Pileser the Third (tukulti-apil-eshara b'tlotho) made Aramaic a second official language.

I don't know why Aramaic dominated Akkadian but one idea is that it's probably because Aramaic used an alphabet while Akkadian used the old cuneiform system that the Sumerians invented. cuneiform was similar to chinese, each symbol was either a syllable, a word itself, or more! Each symbol needed to be memorized but an alphabet made learning alot easier. That's just my theory though.

have a look @ https://pintsofhistory.com/2011/09/25/aramaic-the-humble-language-that-overcame-the-persian-greek-and-roman-empires/

 

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