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Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« on: November 26, 2017, 07:13:08 AM »
What is everyone's opinion on this? My opinion is that we (well me at least because I cannot force anyone to do otherwise) only marry/date/have kids with Assyrians as there is such a small amount of us left and we should keep the legacy going. I have to admit however there are some non-Assyrian girls that are pretty amazing...


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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2017, 08:55:15 AM »
I've had strong views on this in the past. Endogamy has kept us alive and has allowed us to retain our identity - one that is being slowly lost in a globalising world.

I do believe marrying Assyrians is far more prudent for posterity's sake but marrying someone of similar ethnicity and ensuring that the language, culture and traditions are adequately passed on is a second-best I suppose. However, this always comes with the risk, and which often ends up being the case, of the children not being as nationalistic as they should or otherwise could be.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2017, 09:01:11 PM »
I've had strong views on this in the past. Endogamy has kept us alive and has allowed us to retain our identity - one that is being slowly lost in a globalising world.

I do believe marrying Assyrians is far more prudent for posterity's sake but marrying someone of similar ethnicity and ensuring that the language, culture and traditions are adequately passed on is a second-best I suppose. However, this always comes with the risk, and which often ends up being the case, of the children not being as nationalistic as they should or otherwise could be.

I have the exact same opinion.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2017, 09:01:11 PM »

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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2017, 11:09:26 PM »
I'm softly Assyrian only. I'll explain

I personally think Assyrians should only marry Assyrians but I know we all have that one (or more) person(s) in the family who don't want to.

However, from my life experience, most of my family are living happy lives with an Assyrian spouse while a small amount have non-Assyrian spouses and we welcome them.

I would do Assyrian only because I don't want to have a conflict with my wife concerning Assyrianism stuff.

Personally I don't mind Armenians because they're very close to us, they're like non-Semitic version of us.
Same with Maronayeh, Copts, and Arab Christians. beyond these 4 groups, I would have to say no.

Looking at the big picture and the long run, we're Assyrian because our parents are Assyrian. Our mom or dad could've married someone non-Assyrian but did not.

Another thing is whether the couple will have kids or not.
My uncle married a Cuban woman but he doesn't want to have kids, so we all just accepted the marriage and welcomed her in our family anyway.

There's alot of variables at play concerning this case
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2017, 01:44:02 AM »
Overall, it doesn't bother me that much. But I still do feel a bit discomfited when I see Assyrians marrying people of completely different races (Asians, blacks, etc). They have such strong genes that their children, unfortunately, barely look Assyrian.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2017, 02:28:40 AM »
Overall, it doesn't bother me that much. But I still do feel a bit discomfited when I see Assyrians marrying people of completely different races (Asians, blacks, etc). They have such strong genes that their children, unfortunately, barely look Assyrian.

Yeah :/
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 11:41:35 AM »
Overall, it doesn't bother me that much. But I still do feel a bit discomfited when I see Assyrians marrying people of completely different races (Asians, blacks, etc). They have such strong genes that their children, unfortunately, barely look Assyrian.

Assyrians marrying blacks is wrong because it declines IQ of the next generation, biology says.

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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 05:47:47 AM »
Assyrians marrying blacks is wrong because it declines IQ of the next generation, biology says.

lol woahh okay then..
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 11:44:28 PM »
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 01:56:18 AM »
I prefer a Russian MILF

I wonder if you can get those mail-order.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 02:10:11 AM »
Assyrians marrying blacks is wrong because it declines IQ of the next generation, biology says.
Assyrians don't have the highest IQs anyway. Some blacks can easily be a mental match with us.

I'd be worried more if we were Asian though.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 03:40:39 AM »
Assyrians don't have the highest IQs anyway. Some blacks can easily be a mental match with us.

I'd be worried more if we were Asian though.

Assyrians have a propensity for academia but are just lazy and plus, this victim mentality and this feeling of futility, felt especially in the diaspora, means that Assyrians don't apply themselves.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 03:54:20 PM »
Assyrians have a propensity for academia but are just lazy and plus, this victim mentality and this feeling of futility, felt especially in the diaspora, means that Assyrians don't apply themselves.

victim mentality and feeling of futility is a flaw that's passed down from our older generations who have islamic influence.

It is said, those who are pessimistic will go "what's the point?" instead of working to make the situation or environment better.

If we don't actively work to get our rights, we never will get them...
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 12:44:56 AM »
Small diaspora communities inevitably assimilate and out marry. Maybe it won't happen for decades with Assyrians, but I don't know how you stop it.

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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:42:01 PM »
Small diaspora communities inevitably assimilate and out marry. Maybe it won't happen for decades with Assyrians, but I don't know how you stop it.

True.

And welcome back. Missed you, oddly. Lol.
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Re: Should Assyrians date/marry non-Assyrians or only Assyrians?
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:07:01 PM »
Small diaspora communities inevitably assimilate and out marry. Maybe it won't happen for decades with Assyrians, but I don't know how you stop it.


we stop it through community + pressure. There's a very good reason why ethnoreligious groups survive for thousands of years.
There'd be no Assyrian community if Assyrians married outside alot.

like I've said before, it's not a big deal if the odd Assyrian or few marry outside but the number of Assyrian-NonAssyrian marriages shouldn't be more than 10% of the community.

 

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