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Re: Roots of Latin & Latin influenced languages = Assyrian ?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 03:55:40 AM »
I realized the English word "woe" is related to the Assyrian word "wai" (as in the song, Wai Wai Minakh by Sargon Gabriel, meaning "woe from you"). Astonishingly, the proto-Indo European word is "wai", which is quite identical to the modern Assyrian word. Both "wai" and "akh" (which is also used in Arabic - "akh minak") are in the Syriac dictionary. And it appears that "wai" is a classical Syriac word. So maybe it has genetic ties to the proto-Indo European word *wai?

Akh: http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=30429&language=id
Wye: http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=16457&language=id

The Indo-European cognate include; Latin vae, Lithuanian vaĩ, Russian увы́ (uvý), Middle Irish fáe, Dutch wee, German weh, Danish ve, French ouais, Ancient Greek οὐαί (ouaí), Armenian վայ (vay) and Persian وای (vây).
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Re: Roots of Latin & Latin influenced languages = Assyrian ?
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2017, 01:01:00 PM »
I realized the English word "woe" is related to the Assyrian word "wai" (as in the song, Wai Wai Minakh by Sargon Gabriel, meaning "woe from you"). Astonishingly, the proto-Indo European word is "wai", which is quite identical to the modern Assyrian word. Both "wai" and "akh" (which is also used in Arabic - "akh minak") are in the Syriac dictionary. And it appears that "wai" is a classical Syriac word. So maybe it has genetic ties to the proto-Indo European word *wai?

Akh: http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=30429&language=id
Wye: http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=16457&language=id

The Indo-European cognate include; Latin vae, Lithuanian vaĩ, Russian увы́ (uvý), Middle Irish fáe, Dutch wee, German weh, Danish ve, French ouais, Ancient Greek οὐαί (ouaí), Armenian վայ (vay) and Persian وای (vây).


I've also noticed these similarities. It's very interesting since they are words that describe such basic emotions.
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Re: Roots of Latin & Latin influenced languages = Assyrian ?
« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 10:00:49 PM »
What I gathered from this really instructive thread is that these words are likely to have genetic connections to proto Indo-European:

Ayna: Eye
Ara: Earth (Proto-Indo-European *h₁er- compare Ancient Greek *ἔρα *éra)
Wai: Woe
Tara: Door (Proto-Indo-European *dʰwer- “doorway, door, gate”, compare German Tür)


These words I'm not sure of, but should be put in perspective:

Laya: Light (Proto-Indo-European root *lewk- “light”)
Manay: Meaning
Sawer: Swear (from PIE *swer- “to speak, talk” - Perhaps related to Semitic root s-w-t/sawt; voice?)
Qat-qit: Cut (from Proto-Germanic *kutjaną, *kuttaną; “to cut”)
Khzee: See (from Proto-Indo-European *sekʷ- “to see, notice”


"Zruch" ("scratch") and "boot" ("about") are probably coincidental. Also, "cat" (qatoo) is said to be derived from the ancient Egyptian word "čaute".

P.S. Would you say that the Afro-Asiatic languages gave rise to Indo-European? Could AA be an ancestor to IE?
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