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Assyrian ethnicity
« on: April 23, 2008, 03:08:03 AM »
- what is ethnicity? 
- how is assyrians an ethnicity?
- why accept/refuse chaldeans to be an ethnicity?

I hope i can get thorough answers and NOT a debate! (there is other topics for such things!)



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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 04:28:42 AM »
- what is ethnicity? 
- how is assyrians an ethnicity?
- why accept/refuse chaldeans to be an ethnicity?

I hope i can get thorough answers and NOT a debate! (there is other topics for such things!)


Ethnicity is a group of related people that speak the same language, have the same culture, same values, and so on.

Assyrians these days are an ethnicity based on the fact above, they don't mix much and the majority of them have the same language, same culture, same values, same religion, and so on, but the ancient Assyrians were a nation, not an ethnic groups.

As far as Chaldeans goes? sure, you can call it an ethnicity if you feel like, the only problem is Assyrians, Chaldeans, and Suryanis (Arameans) are all the same ethnic group but differ in names and churches, to me I like to be called an Assyrian, but seeing how the Syriac term (Or Syrian originally) is accepted among all the groups, I would say that would be our ethnic group, and in reality Syrian comes from Assyrian anyways so it works well with me.

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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 10:07:31 AM »
If you don't want a debate, then delete the last question.

To break off and create an ethnicity, you must show how, as a group, you are different from the whole part.  Chaldean are different because they are mainly catholic, but culture, race, nationality (back home), religion and language is the same.
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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 10:33:11 AM »
Can you guys please be a little more thorough? 

i'll help out, you are writing your answer to someone who knows very little of history and specially assyrians/chaldeans and is seeking answers.

If you don't want a debate, then delete the last question.
i don't think there is need for any deleting? actually, i forgot another name which ill add to the list 'syriac'.


Thanks.

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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 04:10:20 PM »
#1 Ethnicity is a social construction that indicates identification with a particular group which is often descended from common ancestors. ...
www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/terms.html

#2 The classification of a population that shares common characteristics, such as religion, traditions, culture, language, and tribal or national origin.
mapp.naccho.org/mapp_glossary.asp

#3 a basis for social categories that are rooted in socially perceived differences in national origin, language, and/or religion.
farahsouth.cgu.edu/dictionary/

#4 The cultural practices, language, cuisine and traditions used to distinguish groups of persons—not biological or physical differences.
irhr.ua.edu/blackbelt/glossary.html

Since the modern day Chaldeans don't have any of these in common with ancient Chaldeans of Southern Babylon, I guess they can't be Chaldean in ethnicity.  They do share these things with Assyrians, mainly because, well, we were all one before some of us became Catholic in the 16th century.

Since it can be a constructed thing ,I suppose they can "be" whatever they want, just as anyone can really "be" whatever they want.  But in reality, according to conventional definitions, they aren't.

Seriously what the F are you looking at?

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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 06:17:45 PM »
Assyrian is WHO I am.

Christian is WHAT I am.

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Re: Assyrian ethnicity
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 07:52:05 PM »
Assyrian is WHO I am.

Christian is WHAT I am.

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