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Are you more religious than nationalistic?

Yes I feel I’m more religious that nationalistic
No I feel I’m more nationalistic than religious
I’m as much religious as I'm nationalistic
I’m neither nationalistic nor religious

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Offline Claridy

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Re: Are you more religious than nationalistic?
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2006, 09:47:56 PM »
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The Assyrian Empire came to an inevitable downfall prior to the Assyrian people accepting the Christian faith.


The Assyrians accepted the God of Isreal way before Christ.  Remember Jonah?  He went into Nineveh before the fall and they repented.  They had no excuse, they knew who the God of Isreal was.  They had heard through past generations.

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Even when our people choose religion above everything they didn't get a country.
God doesn't give countries ...  people fight and die for countries. Look at Israel it took a lot of palestinian (and jewish) blood to establish that country.
If you don't fight you don't get a country and if there is a war God shouldn't support a side cause God shouldn't support killing.


True, God has also given us a brain.  We are to use it.  Look at the history of the Isrealites.  When they chose God first, they won!  When they decided to take things into their own hands, they lost!  You still have to fight for it, but the question is, are you putting God first and trusting him?  There is a huge difference.
 
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It is also inaccurate to claim G-d takes away and gives countries according to their faith and how "good" they are, like Clairdy suggested by claiming we were so "proud" G-d punished us.  That's religious blackmail.

If you see it as being punished, then that's your definition.  How about discipline?  If we continue on saying that we are nationalistic with no God, like I said before, just study history.  We aren't going to get no where.  When people repent and put God first, then you win.  That's how it works in life too. 


God bless you all
"Apologetics only leads the "horse" to the water. Only the Holy Spirit can make him drink."

"Judgement Day is not going to be so much God chasing down errant sinners and throwing them into hell, but rather God simply giving men what they have already chosen beforehand - either an eternity of the darkness they spent their lives hiding in or an eternity of the Light they spent their lives seeking out. -unknown"

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Re: Are you more religious than nationalistic?
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2006, 10:05:34 PM »
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The Assyrian Empire came to an inevitable downfall prior to the Assyrian people accepting the Christian faith.


The Assyrians accepted the God of Isreal way before Christ.  Remember Jonah?  He went into Nineveh before the fall and they repented.  They had no excuse, they knew who the God of Isreal was.  They had heard through past generations.

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Even when our people choose religion above everything they didn't get a country.
God doesn't give countries ...  people fight and die for countries. Look at Israel it took a lot of palestinian (and jewish) blood to establish that country.
If you don't fight you don't get a country and if there is a war God shouldn't support a side cause God shouldn't support killing.


True, God has also given us a brain.  We are to use it.  Look at the history of the Isrealites.  When they chose God first, they won!  When they decided to take things into their own hands, they lost!  You still have to fight for it, but the question is, are you putting God first and trusting him?  There is a huge difference.
 
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It is also inaccurate to claim G-d takes away and gives countries according to their faith and how "good" they are, like Clairdy suggested by claiming we were so "proud" G-d punished us.  That's religious blackmail.

If you see it as being punished, then that's your definition.  How about discipline?  If we continue on saying that we are nationalistic with no God, like I said before, just study history.  We aren't going to get no where.  When people repent and put God first, then you win.  That's how it works in life too. 


God bless you all


great points Claridy

"May the Lord Bless You & continually fill your heart with His Love. May He give you victory in every trial you face.....As you are blessed of the Lord, may you become a blessing in return to all those who share your life."   Audrey Jeanne Roberts

 

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